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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:12 pm Reply with quote
woot sony!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:25 pm Reply with quote
Anybody have images of the "CD Lyrics card"?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:30 pm Reply with quote
To the left, to the left, every cent they own in the box to the left xD
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:17 pm Reply with quote
Why would they wait two years to file a law suit!?!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:17 pm Reply with quote
TeenChibi wrote:
Why would they wait two years to file a law suit!?!
For one they probably didn't discover the copyright violation right away. They would only find out if they 1) bought the album or 2) were informed by someone else with personal knowledge of the original artwork (which was not publicly released) that it was being used in the packaging.

That alone could have taken a year or two, or it could have happened in a day. Then there were probably back and forth communications and legal wrangling, attempts to resolve the issue out of court, etc. That probably went on for months. Then comes the process of actually filing the lawsuit.

From start to finish, this isn't something that happens overnight and can easily (and usually) take years to sort out.


That said, from what I know about this business from a friend who has done a bunch of illustration and design for record labels before, I completely believe Nagahama's claims. Record labels are some of the absolute worst when it comes to respecting other people's ownership of their own works. Hiring someone to do a whole bunch of concept sketches with the promise of pay on final illustration delivery, canceling the project after receiving the sketches because they "decided to go in another direction," and then using a barely tweaked version of the sketches without credit or payment to the actual original artist in the final product happens all the time.

So, yeah, pretty believable lawsuit here.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:30 pm Reply with quote
It always amazes me how companies or people file lawsuits so long after the product they are suing over is released. No one at the production company bothered to check whether they used any of the material that was provided for two years.

I just read another news article about how Axle Rose is suing the Guitar Hero developers for breach of contract for a game made in 2008.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:55 am Reply with quote
Hey all,

I'm actually one of the producers behind this situation. It's really terrible and we're all pretty upset about it. But, for a long time, there was going to be a larger animation project that we were pursuing. Unfortunately, that got cancelled, but they used the artwork anyway. We tried for almost a year to settle this directly with their company, but to no avail. After that, we pursued the lawsuit and it literally took this long. I hope Director Nagahama gets what he is properly owed! His work for this was fantastic!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:35 am Reply with quote
MetatronM wrote:
That said, from what I know about this business from a friend who has done a bunch of illustration and design for record labels before, I completely believe Nagahama's claims. Record labels are some of the absolute worst when it comes to respecting other people's ownership of their own works.

If true, I find the irony amusing. Don't violate artistic copyrights, folks. The record company will sue your grandmom for $9 billion for that one Barry Manilow mp3 she downloaded. Only the recording industry itself is allowed to take other people's creations for its own use without permission or payment.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:52 pm Reply with quote
...on the other hand, music industry are the ones shouting "copyright infringement" everywhere.
I hope they get lots of money from it. The music industry can afford that after all.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:09 am Reply with quote
egoist wrote:
...on the other hand, music industry are the ones shouting "copyright infringement" everywhere.
I hope they get lots of money from it. The music industry can afford that after all.


Or we're gonna see a story in Japanese media of how there was a drive-by in Japan targetting Nagahama.

YOU DON'T **** with JAY-Z.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:24 am Reply with quote
Sunday Silence wrote:
Or we're gonna see a story in Japanese media of how there was a drive-by in Japan targetting Nagahama.

YOU DON'T **** with JAY-Z.

Millions of people do. Is a rapper omnipotent enough to stop a civilian from pirating his music?
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