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SgtMustang
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 Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 1:16 am |
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| Seems like its gonna walk that line between badass, and what a 12yo thinks is X-Treme. |
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jsc315
Joined: 09 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 8:09 pm |
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| ShinobiX wrote: | | archangel7 wrote: | | so far i really have high hopes for the show. i like the way they have no happy endings with even when Igarashi Ganta wins it doesn't turn out good. i have not read the manga so i don't know if it gets better. i do know they should never change very far from the manga because it quickly loses the story and they have to remake it like FMA brotherhood. |
Stopped watching series since read book.
Anime will be full of happy endings except for one. In the anime, for dramatic effects, they'll cut it off early and cause people to be mislead (people like you). Film..... |
You do realize not everyone follows the manga right?
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| Quote: | | honestly im not sure if i will be continueing deadman wonderland. i love the manga but the anime has already skipped over three important characters. if anything i will keep watching for the kick a** music and animation. |
So you just want the anime to be exactly the same thing just in motion? Really what is the fun in that at all. Of course it's not going to be exactly the same! If it's just going to be only one season then there is going to have to be things that get cut. How about watch the series and enjoy it for what it is then go back to the manga? |
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marie-antoinette
Joined: 18 Sep 2005
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Location: Ottawa, Canada
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| Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 10:22 pm |
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I have to say I felt like episode 6 has some serious missteps in a series that so far had been doing everything pretty well. Mainly, I feel like the new character introduction was really rushed: it would have been better to keep Hummingbird sane/nice seeming for longer, so that the reveal that she's completely insane would have had more impact. Plus, there was just too much exposition in there.
And at the very end of the fight I felt like Ganta drifted a bit into "after school special" mode, which is especially odd since this is very much not an after school special.
But I suppose almost all anime has moments that aren't as good as the rest. I'm hoping the show will make up for this episode down the line. |
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sandpuck
Joined: 03 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 4:37 pm |
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| Yeah, Hummingbird going from nice to insane within single episode (and just after similar thing happend to Shiro) was kind of disappointing. I didn't even have time to stop suspecting she's a psycho in sheep's clothing before she was revealed to be just that. And I don't buy the whole "unloving mother" flashback. Of all things that can make a child feel betrayed and unloved they went for a mother that tries to save bunch of flowers instead of her daughter and runs away laughing maniacally? It was more surrealistic than cruel (even given the general atmosphere of the show). Unless it's some sort of false/messed up memeries. |
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marie-antoinette
Joined: 18 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 9:40 pm |
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| sandpuck wrote: | | And I don't buy the whole "unloving mother" flashback. Of all things that can make a child feel betrayed and unloved they went for a mother that tries to save bunch of flowers instead of her daughter and runs away laughing maniacally? It was more surrealistic than cruel (even given the general atmosphere of the show). Unless it's some sort of false/messed up memeries. |
I definitely agree with that. The whole episode really just didn't work very well for me. But I still love the show and maybe down the line things will happen that will make me re-evaluate this initial impression. |
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Nosferatu21
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Joined: 19 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:07 pm |
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| marie-antoinette wrote: | | sandpuck wrote: | | And I don't buy the whole "unloving mother" flashback. Of all things that can make a child feel betrayed and unloved they went for a mother that tries to save bunch of flowers instead of her daughter and runs away laughing maniacally? It was more surrealistic than cruel (even given the general atmosphere of the show). Unless it's some sort of false/messed up memeries. |
I definitely agree with that. The whole episode really just didn't work very well for me. But I still love the show and maybe down the line things will happen that will make me re-evaluate this initial impression. |
I wasn't bothered by how quickly Hummingbird went from angel to psychotic. It was completely obvious that it was going to happen and I'm much more interested in available time being used to go deeper into the shiro/ganta backstory.
I will agree with you both about the "unloving mother" thing. I didn't catch that it was the mother laughing hysterically, I thought it was Hummingbird laughing crazily as she told the story. |
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~~EpiC~~
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| Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 1:47 am |
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| Nosferatu21 wrote: |
I wasn't bothered by how quickly Hummingbird went from angel to psychotic. It was completely obvious that it was going to happen and I'm much more interested in available time being used to go deeper into the shiro/ganta backstory.
I will agree with you both about the "unloving mother" thing. I didn't catch that it was the mother laughing hysterically, I thought it was Hummingbird laughing crazily as she told the story. |
Actually, I completely agree. I wasn't bothered by it at all, because it was completely obvious from the get go. Even if they spent 5 episodes playing that game it wouldn't have worked. They play that game really often don't they? How else could she possibly survive such a bloody mess without being bloodthirsty as all heck.
For this reason, extra development would have actually been a waste of space and resources.
The unloving mother thing wasn't too impressive, though. I could be wrong, but I'm also pretty sure that it was Hummingbird cackling there and not the mom
Anyway, I haven't said anything about it until now, but I'm really really enjoying this show. Besides the first half of the first episode, the writing has been solid, and all the characters are interesting. I'm loving Shiro! I also like where its going so far with this shiro is actually the Red Man angle. I wonder if the old disabled guy who I suppose is the real president is doing this whole program in order to be able to use his body again or if its just the crazy guy controlling things behind the scene entirely for money. |
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sandpuck
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| Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:09 am |
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| ~~EpiC~~ wrote: |
Actually, I completely agree. I wasn't bothered by it at all, because it was completely obvious from the get go. Even if they spent 5 episodes playing that game it wouldn't have worked. They play that game really often don't they? How else could she possibly survive such a bloody mess without being bloodthirsty as all heck.
For this reason, extra development would have actually been a waste of space and resources. |
Yes, that's true. It felt rushed to me but maybe it was the best to just get it out of the way. I hope she'll get some well-paced character development later.
And yes, it's Hummingbired laughing, but I'm pretty sure the mother cracked a crazy grin before running away. |
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marie-antoinette
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| Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 10:29 am |
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| Even if it was obvious (and I'll agree that it was), I still don't think it should have been rushed. Especially when the switch was so extreme in nature. This is the introduction to a new character and we hardly have time to absorb any of it as a viewer. |
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egoist
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 5:13 pm |
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Deadman Wonderland, when are you gonna stop wasting your potential? I don't care much about story writing, but why exactly are their superpowers so bloody weak? Where's the violence? I don't want shonen stuff here, I want heads flying, exploding, sliced in half; arms flying, bloody showering, etc. etc.
It's still doing fine, but it's averaging 7-8/10. With this set-up it's just a waste of potential.
I wouldn't be so bothered if it were 24 episodes. I also don't care much about the Carnival Corpses. That race was much more entertaining.
Argh. The incomplete Legend of the Legendary Heroes is already enough.
So... does it look like Deadman Wonderland will sell enough for a second season? If it does then I can at least rest assured, since the rest of my favorite this season will definitely do fine [perhaps except C, but it shouldn't matter for something Noitamina & 11 episode long]. |
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Rukiia
Team Gurren
Joined: 30 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 6:17 pm |
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I've been looking forward to this series since the Anime was green-lit last year. I finally got down to watching it today and have some mixed feelings about the show.
Lets start with what I feel is a disappointment:
For starters, Lack of Azami Mido. That is such a shame that they seemed to have cut her out of the series. Makes me wonder what they'll do to trigger Ganta's rage when he encounters the Red Man again and finds out its true identity.
Secondly, I can't get used to Paku Romi voicing Ganta. I always thought of Ganta having a Shinji Ikari voice as I read more of the manga. I love Paku Romi to death but, so far, I'm not really liking Ganta's voice. T-T
Thirdly, the premature spoilers in the opening theme and episode 5. They showed the psychotic version of Hummingbird and showed hints of Shiro being the Red Man. And in episode 5 they gave us a huge, painfully obvious, hint on who the Red Man is. If I had not read the manga I would have found this to be a massive let down. They should have just followed the manga's path of showing the audience who the Red Man really is.
And now for the good:
The opening theme is AWESOME! I love the song and love how badass it looks. I watched it over and over again as I couldn't get enough of the song.
Makina. She is sooooooo fine. Can't blame her co-worker for getting all blushy around her. She reminds me alot of Armstrong's sister from FullMetal Alchemist: Brotherhood.
The censored scenes. Some of it was unnecessary but the scene in episode 5 made me happy to see that they blackened it out a bit. I started feeling uneasy when watching that punishment game scene. Senji's eyeball getting pulled out slowly and the blood curling screams from him made me want to stop watching the episode. I haven't felt sickened from watching violent scenes in Anime since seeing some of Shigurui: Death Frenzy. I don't think I could have finished watching episode 5 if they didn't censor it. I don't mind violence but I can't stand violent torture scenes.
Ganta's character development. The court scene made me feel for him. Nothing is worse then being falsely accused of murdering your own friends, especially by the father of the girl who Ganta most likely had a crush on. The scene where Tamaki threw together footage of Ganta, supposedly, confessing to his crimes was something I didn't expect to happen and his meltdown makes you feel awful for him.
All in all, I am enjoying this series despite a few minor disappointments. Yet I wonder if there will be a second season if they are only doing 12 episodes. There is just no way they can squish 8 volumes worth of the manga series into 12 episodes. |
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everydaygamer
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 1:46 pm |
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so episode 7... WTH happened in the beginning?
the old man and shiro start fighting and the old man turns into a complete bad ass. it was hard to tell with the censor but it looked like the guys head got ripped off, so is he dead? cause he talked for awhile. also seems almost certain shiro is the red man. also thought it was funny that hair was actually an option in that game. |
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axstoro
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 7:19 pm |
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| everydaygamer wrote: | so episode 7... WTH happened in the beginning?
the old man and shiro start fighting and the old man turns into a complete bad ass. it was hard to tell with the censor but it looked like the guys head got ripped off, so is he dead? cause he talked for awhile. also seems almost certain shiro is the red man. also thought it was funny that hair was actually an option in that game. |
Maybe the old guy can't die or something? Cybor/Android? But it did look like Shiro just wrecked his body or something. But yea, I do think Shiro might be Redman, or maybe not, they just want to make us think that O_o!? |
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jxsilicon9
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 1:28 am |
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| The mother running off with the flowers was hilarious. I like how bloody this is becoming. The episodes seem so short. Just when they stop talking and the good stuff is about to happen it ends. |
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It...it's not like I post for you or anything!
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 11:46 am |
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| One thing I'm really hating is when they have action going on in darkened rooms. I guess this is the animators way of saving money so they can keep the rest of the lit scenes looking good, but it really pisses me off. What is the point of having something going on in a scene if you can't see it? |
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