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Dan42
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:20 am Reply with quote
This is the place to report duplicate persons. You must indicate:
1) which one is the real name?
2) is this a alias or a mistake?

previous duplicate person reports are here


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Samurai CDZ



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:17 pm Reply with quote
Please delete:

Hiroaki SATOU (my bad)
Hiroaki SATO (correct)

Also would someone be able to check the following two, I don't know any Japanese but I have a feeling these may be the same people.

Both credited as Character Design for UY Movie #5:
Setsuko SHIBUICHI (has more credits, not on the DVD)
Setsuko SHIBUNNOICHI (straight off the DVD)

Similar time frame, similar tasks:
Yoshiyuki ICHIKAWA
Yoshiyuki ISHIKAWA

I realize they may be different people, but I just wanted to bring them up.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:29 pm Reply with quote
Samurai CDZ wrote:
Hiroaki SATOU (my bad)
Hiroaki SATO (correct)

Done.

Samurai CDZ wrote:
Both credited as Character Design for UY Movie #5:
Setsuko SHIBUICHI (has more credits, not on the DVD)
Setsuko SHIBUNNOICHI (straight off the DVD)

Her name should be Setsuko SHIBUICHI (四分一 節子; しぶいち せつこ), so please remove your submission for Setsuko SHIBUNNOICHI (this last name looks very suspicious in the first sight) as the Character Design of Urusei Yatsura: The Final Chapter (movie), thus I can merge #10818 into #8408 completely. Very rare family name; don't know whether it's a stage name or a real name.

Personally I'd like to thank you for mentioning her name. Now I'm really looking forward to her direction work, Momoko (もも子). A story about a handicapped girl and her healthy fraternal twin brother, this could be more a tearjerker than Grave of the Fireflies. Crying or Very sad

Samurai CDZ wrote:
Similar time frame, similar tasks:
Yoshiyuki ICHIKAWA
Yoshiyuki ISHIKAWA

I really have no idea, because both names are legitimate (eliminating possible misspellings), and minor staff info are hard to find even in kanji, not mention in romaji. However, they *MIGHT* be the same person, for both Crystal Triangle (in which Yoshiyuki ISHIKAWA staffed) and Urusei Yatsura: The Final Chapter (in which Yoshiyuki ICHIKAWA staffed) are produced by Tatsunoko Productions. Looks like the only way is to post the question on their BBS.... Anime smallmouth + sweatdrop
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Samurai CDZ



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:33 am Reply with quote
dormcat wrote:
Her name should be Setsuko SHIBUICHI (四分一 節子; しぶいち せつこ), so please remove your submission for Setsuko SHIBUNNOICHI (this last name looks very suspicious in the first sight) as the Character Design of Urusei Yatsura: The Final Chapter (movie), thus I can merge #10818 into #8408 completely.


Done, I thought it was a bit strange myself...

Also is there such a sound as "si"...I can't recall hearing or seeing one. It's always "shi".

And if there isn't, can you rename this or do I have to re-submit it?
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dormcat
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:19 am Reply with quote
Samurai CDZ wrote:
Also is there such a sound as "si"...I can't recall hear or seeing one. It's always "shi".

It is another romanization method (actually, THE standard method), called Kunrei-shiki (訓令式), taught in Japanese elementary schools. For foreigners like us, modified Hepburn is most commonly used, so し/シ can be spelled as "shi" (Hepburn) or "si" (Kunrei-shiki). Most entries in ANN Encyclopedia use Hepburn, especially modified Hepburn ("wapuro romaji," romanization for word processors) to reduce the use of special letters like ô or ō.

Samurai CDZ wrote:
And if there isn't than, can you rename this or do I have to re-submit it?

I'm afraid that I don't have the authority to modify entry titles directly. Personally, I'd suggest you resubmit it, which is easiest for it's the only staff position he has. As far as I can tell, all assistants listed in Ai Yori Aoshi manga are romanized with Kunrei-shiki, as in Asahi Katuomaki, Keizou Isikawa, and Mitukage Syoutengai (<- another strange last name. Shopping arcade?!).
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abunai
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:57 am Reply with quote
dormcat wrote:
Samurai CDZ wrote:
Also is there such a sound as "si"...I can't recall hear or seeing one. It's always "shi".

It is another romanization method (actually, THE standard method), called Kunrei-shiki (訓令式), taught in Japanese elementary schools. For foreigners like us, modified Hepburn is most commonly used, so し/シ can be spelled as "shi" (Hepburn) or "si" (Kunrei-shiki). Most entries in ANN Encyclopedia use Hepburn, especially modified Hepburn ("wapuro romaji," romanization for word processors) to reduce the use of special letters like ô or ō.


I actively and intensely dislike Kunrei-shiki (or shouldn't that be Kunrei-siki? Laughing ). It is completely counterintuitive (and counterproductive) to have a transliteration system that doesn't transliterate the actual sounds. The sound of し/シ is "shi", not "si". So the transliteration should be "shi", too.

The day I give up the Hepburn system in favour of Kunrei-shiki is the day
...pigs fly,
...the temperature in Hell drops below zero degrees centigrade,
...and they stuff me in my grave.

- abunai
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chris keck



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:10 am Reply with quote
FYI,

Here's a nice table that compares the various romaji methods.

http://www.wordiq.com/​definition/​Romaji#​Chart_of_romanizatio​ns

It would be helpful if the ANN encyclopedia standardized on one type and gave instructions on the submission pages on what to use. Wikipedia has a good example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/​wiki/​Wikipedia:​Manual_of_Style_for_​Japan-​related_articles

Just a suggestion.

chris keck
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Samurai CDZ



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:45 am Reply with quote
dormcat wrote:
I'm afraid that I don't have the authority to modify entry titles directly. Personally, I'd suggest you resubmit it, which is easiest for it's the only staff position he has. As far as I can tell, all assistants listed in Ai Yori Aoshi manga are romanized with Kunrei-shiki, as in Asahi Katuomaki, Keizou Isikawa, and Mitukage Syoutengai (<- another strange last name. Shopping arcade?!).


Renaming should really be easier, but I guess re-submitting is probably faster...

So then it should be...

Katsuomaki
Ishikawa
Mitsukage Shoutengai
Satoshi

...right?

Tokyopop just has to be different, huh?
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chris keck



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:26 am Reply with quote
Hello,

dormcat asked me to give more help in vetting these people I reported as probable duplicates. I divided the names into groups. (There are two groups of people in the world, those that divide things into groups and those that don’t.) I couldn’t check the sources given for them, so I just checked the spelling.

Please take a look and post a reply if you know anything that can help clear these up. Thank you in advance for all the help you will give me.

Different People
EmperorBrandon reported that these are indeed two different people. Thank you.

Holmes, John person#4977
Holmes, Jonathan person#29197

Japanese – Romanization
These appear to be all romanization variations or typos. I checked them against Japanese names listed in my dictionary (enamdict). I listed the one I think is correct first. Please post a response if you know differently.

Hashimoto, Kouichi person#7628
Hashimoto, Kohichi person#21402

Hamauzu, Taeko person#30627
Hamautsu, Taeko person#25492
Hamauzu is listed.

Hatano, Yoshifumi person#9469
Hatano, Yoshihumi person#13440

Hattori, Katsuhisa person#9983
Hattori, Katuhisa person#4652

Hirata, Shuichi person#377
Hirata, Syuichi person#30671

Hori, Katsunosuke person#6599
Hori, Katusnosuke person#20432
Typo

Hata, Shoji person#10427
Hata, Syouji person#10469

Hashimoto, Takashi person#9522
Hashimoto, Takasi person#15559

Honda, Yuu person#31598
Honda, Yuh person#15907

Hiromoto, Shinichi person#14235
Hiromoto, Sin-Ichi person#29678

Hirose, Izumi person#30328
Hirose, Idumi person#31628
The kana spelling is いづみ

Higashi, Junichi person#89
Higashi, Jyunichi person#16455

Hisamura, Katsu person#4194
Hisamura, Kazu person#14523
Both are legitimate names.

Hiraishi, Motoko person#16675
Hiraishi, Motuko person#8046
Typo

Hirayama, Madoka person#10619
Hirayama, Madaoka person#10622

Japanese – Alternate Spellings

Hiiragi, Mifuyu person#1071
Hiigari, Mifuyu person#17850
Hiigari isn’t listed.

Hirano, Fumi person#1662
Hirano, Fumie person#25715
Both are legitimate names.

Hironaka, Masashi person#5118
Hironaka, Wasashi person#8367
Plus maybe:
Hironaku, Masashi person#9944
and
Hironobu, Masashi person#11653
Wasashi and Hironaku aren’t in the dictionary.

Hisamatsu, Yasuo person#17597
Hisamitsu, Yasuo person#5640
Both are legitimate names.

Hiyama, Nobuyuki person#1497
Hiyama, Noboyuki person#10942
Nobuyuki is in the dictionary, Noboyuki is not.

Hosono, Masaya person#25097
Hosono, Masayo person#18266
Both are legitimate names.

Hozumi, Takanobu person#12302
Hozumi, Takanofu person#25830
My dictionary has 40 kanji writings of takanobu, none of takanofu.

Haijima, Naohira person#22947
Haijima, Naohisa person#3716
Both are legitimate names.

Hanai, Masaaki person#19182
Hanai, Massaki person#16289
Both are legitimate names.

Handa, Terou person#31341
Handa, Teruo person#4718
Both are legitimate names.

Harada, Yoshio person#18712
Harada, Yoshirou person#18600
Both are legitimate names.

Haseba, Atsushi person#13623
Hasebe, Atsushi person#21669
Both are legitimate names.

Hasegawa, Katsuo person#9805
Hasegawa, Kazuo person#23365
Both are legitimate names.

Hasegawa, Naoko person#3400
Hasegawa, Nahoko person#29704
Nahoko is not listed.

Hatanaka, Toshi person#26629
Hatanaka, Toshio person#6709
Both are legitimate names.

Hayase, Hiroyuki person#22262
Hayase, Horoyuki person#17995
Horoyuki is not listed.

Hidaka, Masamitsu person#8124
Hidaka, Masemitsu person#8
Masemitsu is not listed.

Higure, Yuichi person#23617
Higure, Yuuichi person#25320
Both are legitimate names.

Hirai, Hisaishi person#18159
Hirai, Hisashi person#8024
Both are legitimate names.

Hirata, Kaoru person#5873
Hirata, Kahoru person#24216
Both are legitimate names.

Hishinuma, Toshihito person#10172
Hishinuma, Yoshihito person#23
Both are legitimate names.

Other Asian Languages

Is anyone familiar enough with Asian languages to determine if these are indeed duplicates and if so which is correct?

Hye-Sook, Kwon person#29785
Hyn Soon, Kwon person#24310

Hyun-Joo, Lee person#29784
Hyun-Woo, Lee person#29790

Other Language – Misspelling
Hook, Patrick person#12686
Hook, Partick person#15981
Typo, unless there really is someone named Partick.

Other Language – Long/Short and Middle Names

These are names with long and short forms, names with and without middle names or initials. I don’t know what the ANN policy in names so I put the form with the most information first. Again, if anyone knows for sure that any are two different people please pipe-up.

Hajj, Edward person#4673
Hajj, Ed person#4677

Harper, Jay person#23464
Harper, J.W. person#9600

Holt, Lance J. person#27573
Holt, Lance person#31018

Haswell, Peter R. person#3987
Haswell, Peter person#20772

Hayes, Kent Harrison person#20972
Hayes, Kent person#3964

Hewitt, Cindy Davis person#7714
Hewitt, Cindy person#18043

Hewitt, Donald H. person#7715
Hewitt, Donald person#18044

Hudnall, James D. person#13946
Hudnall, James person#25267

Hirayama, Beni Axia person#27645
Hirayama, Beni person#6834

Henderson, A.J. person#7042
Henderson, A. J. person#15007
Plus maybe: Henderson, Adam person#11604

Other Language – Alternate Spellings

These names have similar pronunciations but different spellings. Can anyone say which is correct?

Hamilton, Edmund person#6366
Hamilton, Edmond person#20064

Hamilton, Jocelyn person#4152
Hamilton, Jacelyn person#18414

Hagopian, Dean person#7041
Hagopien, Dean person#9174
Note: If spelled the same as my friend’s name, Hagopian is correct.

Haddock, Gary G. person#6375
Haddock, Gary person#15706
Haddock, Gray G. person#355
Haddock, Gray person#6976
Haddock, G. person#17959
Does anyone know if Gary and Gray are the same person?

Halstead, Dana person#4686
Halsted, Dana person#7396

Harden, Billy F. person#9575
Hardin, Billy person#16515

Hollingshead, Megan person#1435
Holligshead, Megan person#27509
Looks like a typo.

Hughes, Deniz person#7949
Hughes, Beniz person#12264

Hurtz, Bill person#24875
Hurtzs, William person#29055


Again, thanks for helping.


chris keck

[edit: made all ID#s clickable - Shiroi, 2015-05-29]
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Samurai CDZ



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:33 pm Reply with quote
Another one:

Masaki SAKAMOTO (On DVD credits for UY M#4)
Masanori SAKAMOTO (Not on DVD, but in Masaki's spot)


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:58 pm Reply with quote
Tsugio OZAWA (correct)
Tugio OZAWA
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Samurai CDZ



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 1:01 am Reply with quote
Please delete/merge:

Asahi KATUOMAKI #32419
in favor of:
Asahi KATSUOMAKI #32603

Keizou ISIKAWA #32424
in favor of:
Keizou ISHIKAWA #32604
who may also be listed as:
Keizou ICHIKAWA #10464

Mitukage SYOUTENGAI #32427
in favor of:
Mitsukage SHOUTENGAI #32605

Satosi KITUYAMA #32429
in favor of:
Satoshi KITSUYAMA #32606
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Samurai CDZ



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 10:53 am Reply with quote
Kumiko TAKAHAHI (typo)
Kumiko TAKAHASHI (correct)
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Samurai CDZ



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 10:31 pm Reply with quote
Please merge:

Jonathon GUGGENHELM #32433 (typo)
Jonathan GUGGENHEIM #32646 (correct)
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 1:51 am Reply with quote
Katsuhisa YARNADA #4254 (typo)
Katsuhisa YAMADA #4306 (correct)

CW MADISON #32679 (Shortened on DVD)
Christopher-Wilem MADISON #32685 (Full name)
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