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REVIEW: Chrono Crusade DVD 1




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Tony K.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:04 am Reply with quote
Good review. I especially like the comment on how Rosette's dub voice was very squeeky at times. A lot of the time, I find it very difficult to cast dub female roles, as a lot of the voice pitches are just so different from the original Japanese voices.

Don't get me wrong, I respect the job they do and commend them for their efforts, but I just want to point out that it is a difficult thing to pull of at times. Unfortunately, it seems to be more difficult for the ADV actresses in a lot of their roles, in my opinion Anime catgrin + sweatdrop (sorry).

I like the ending song for this series too; slow, sweet, and a nice melody Smile.

Keep up the good work Mr. Santos.

EDIT: Added a period at the end of a sentence Anime catgrin + sweatdrop.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 11:19 am Reply with quote
Hey, Carlos. Remember a while ago when I said that your review of MegaMan NT Warrior was the most accurate review you ever written? Well, forget that - your Chrono review is the most accurate. Excellect job Very Happy

Hilary Haag (Rosette's dub VA), Greg Ayers (Chrono), and Jessica Boone (Azmaria) are doing an excellent job of voicing these characters. When ADV announced the VA cast for Chrono, I was a little skeptical about them choosing Ms. Haag for the role of Rosette. She was sensational as Teletha in Full Metal Panic, but I didn't think that she had the voice range to carry a lead character, especially one that has a roller-coaster range of emotions. But to my surprise and pleasure, Ms. Haag is handling the role of Rosette with ease. Not bad for someone who's using VA as a secondary career. I also want to point out that Jessica Boone is a name you should pay close attention to. Her portrayal of Azmaria is nothing short of awesome, as was her prior assignments (Arumi in Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi and Azumanga Daioh's Chiyo Mihama, the best mascot character in anime). She's like the LeBron James of voice acting, and she will only get better. If you want to know more about Ms. Boone, pick up the December 2004 issue of play magazine; there's an excellent interview with her.

The music in Chrono is excellent as well, typical of any Gonzo series. Also typical of Gonzo, Chrono will get darker (and better) during the course of the series.

My only complaint (and it's a small one) is that some Catholics might be offended by the portrayal of nuns as a means of fighting evil in reveling outfits, displayed when Rosette wears her sexier outfit starting in Episode 6 (and also shown in the insert in Volume 1). When Anime Insider did an interview with Daisuke Moriyama (the creator of Chrono Crusade), one of the questions asked was that if he received any negative feedback from Japanese Catholics, and Moriyama-san said that all of the feedback he received pertaining to Chrono was positive bacause the Japanese public see his series for what it is - fictional entertainment. Moriyama-san was very fascinated with the ideals and artwork displayed in Catholicism, and use that as an influence in his work. I don't believe the American Catholics (myself included) will see Chrono as demeaning to their religion and accept it for what it is - fictional entertainment.

Overall, Chrono Crusade should be in everyone's collection. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:32 pm Reply with quote
You know what I hate? When I go looking for doujinshi of Bridget (from Guilty Gear XX) and find Rosette (from Chrono Crusade) doujins instead, because, even though the two characters are quite different from each other in one very important aspect, both characters look nearly identical in thumbnails of doujin covers.

No, wait a minute, I meant it the other way... I hate it when I go looking for Rosette and find Bridget instead.

Yeah, that's the ticket. Embarassed
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ZODDGUTS



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 12:53 am Reply with quote
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My only complaint (and it's a small one) is that some Catholics might be offended by the portrayal of nuns as a means of fighting evil in reveling outfits, displayed when Rosette wears her sexier outfit starting in Episode 6 (and also shown in the insert in Volume 1). When Anime Insider did an interview with Daisuke Moriyama (the creator of Chrono Crusade), one of the questions asked was that if he received any negative feedback from Japanese Catholics, and Moriyama-san said that all of the feedback he received pertaining to Chrono was positive bacause the Japanese public see his series for what it is - fictional entertainment. Moriyama-san was very fascinated with the ideals and artwork displayed in Catholicism, and use that as an influence in his work. I don't believe the American Catholics (myself included) will see Chrono as demeaning to their religion and accept it for what it is - fictional entertainment.


Eh I'm Catholic myself including a bunch of friends of mines too and they won't have a problem with that. So really I dont really Catholics having a problem with Chrono Crusade at all.

Heck I was watching the first volume in the living room because the tv is 61 inch screen tv and everything looks Shocked on that TV well my mom was doing some stuff in the living room but she didn't say anything bad about Chorno Crusade at all.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 1:20 am Reply with quote
Tenchi wrote:
You know what I hate? When I go looking for doujinshi of Bridget (from Guilty Gear XX) and find Rosette (from Chrono Crusade) doujins instead, because, even though the two characters are quite different from each other in one very important aspect, both characters look nearly identical in thumbnails of doujin covers.

No, wait a minute, I meant it the other way... I hate it when I go looking for Rosette and find Bridget instead.

Yeah, that's the ticket. Embarassed


And wait, isn't Bridget actually found to be male? *shudders*
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 9:15 pm Reply with quote
I was noticing how similar to Shaman King's Faust Father Remington is.
But according to the very interesting commetary with Greg Ayers & Hilary Haag, the characters aren't Catholic--turns out the order just has uniforms similar to nun habits. They said it's revealed Remington's a Protestant minister.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 3:18 am Reply with quote
biliano wrote:
My only complaint (and it's a small one) is that some Catholics might be offended by the portrayal of nuns as a means of fighting evil in reveling outfits, displayed when Rosette wears her sexier outfit starting in Episode 6 (and also shown in the insert in Volume 1). When Anime Insider did an interview with Daisuke Moriyama (the creator of Chrono Crusade), one of the questions asked was that if he received any negative feedback from Japanese Catholics, and Moriyama-san said that all of the feedback he received pertaining to Chrono was positive bacause the Japanese public see his series for what it is - fictional entertainment. Moriyama-san was very fascinated with the ideals and artwork displayed in Catholicism, and use that as an influence in his work. I don't believe the American Catholics (myself included) will see Chrono as demeaning to their religion and accept it for what it is - fictional entertainment.


I actually have a Loss Prevention Case from a "Major Bookstore Chain" about a return that was quite funny and suspicious to say the least.

According to the incident report, a customer returned a damaged and shattered disc of Chrono Crusade DVD #1 complaining that the material is "Defamatory and Blasphomous" and demanded a refund back. MOD decided to refuse the refund, stating that it's not sellable.

I'll just cut to the chase and say that Mall Security escorted the lady out after she threatend to sue them with the help of the Catholic Church of the USA.

*sigh* The weirdo's always come out during the holidays.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 4:05 pm Reply with quote
DarkCntry wrote:
And wait, isn't Bridget actually found to be male? *shudders*


Yes, that's the "one important aspect" to which I referred. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:04 pm Reply with quote
Haiseikoh 1973 wrote:
I'll just cut to the chase and say that Mall Security escorted the lady out after she threatend to sue them with the help of the Catholic Church of the USA.

Heh. I remember a friend of mine telling me about some lady that went into an anime store and called the clerks a bunch of heretics for selling Witch Hunter Robin Anime dazed.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:06 pm Reply with quote
Tony K. wrote:
Haiseikoh 1973 wrote:
I'll just cut to the chase and say that Mall Security escorted the lady out after she threatend to sue them with the help of the Catholic Church of the USA.

Heh. I remember a friend of mine telling me about some lady that went into an anime store and called the clerks a bunch of heretics for selling Witch Hunter Robin Anime dazed.


Stupid bitches.

You guys wanna hear something stupid? I was at Suncoast the other day, and some guy got mad because they didn't have Halo 2. After he cursed and screamed at them for "not having the game his son so desperately wanted", they told him they only sell movies. The old geezer shut up and left, walking right past Electronics Boutique, which had a huge display set up and an XBox playing the game. Rolling Eyes
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You know, I actually LIKE the fact that the dub uses some actual colloquialisms from the era. Why? Five reasons:

1.) Most of them are throwaway lines anyway (for instance, I had to watch the first episode twice to realize that Chrono muttered at one point "Sure, it'll be Duck Soup"), or the meaning is obvious ("duck soup" may sound strange... but it's kind of like "easy as pie/piece of cake", which are also strange idioms when you think about it) - they don't detract from the translation of the series one bit as far as I'm concerned. You know what the characters mean and what's going on.

2.) I suppose you think that giving the Hellsing (I think that's the one anyway) characters, who are British, British accents in the (Hellsing) dub was also a bad idea? Fact of the matter is... that's how the people of that era talked, especially young ones like Rosette. It's a period piece, even if it does have so much fantasy thrown in (hey, would Pirates of the Carribean or Lord of the Rings have been the same if the movies had been made using phrases like "Dude! AWESOME!"? Yeah, didn't think so Wink ). It feels natural for there to be slang or terms from the era that aren't used today

3.) Come on now... "duck soup" is cute. It didn't make me want to "throttle the writers" - it made me smile, when I finally caught it! '20s slang has this wonderfully quirky, fun sound to it, and using it in the series' dub adds a nice extra touch of humor.

4.) Did I mention it's a period piece? If the characters didn't use ANY period slang, I'd actually not have been happy, since it would have been not just slightly unnatural, but actually inaccurate. This isn't a matter of accents, like the Hellsing dub (though it could be compared for that reason, too...). The characters are not themselves Japanese - they're American (well, most of them that I could tell were), living in New York City, and at a time when there was a lot of slang going around the same groups that supposedly are summoning demons in Chrono Crusade. It would seriously detract from the dub for it to ignore this, as the setting is one of the coolest parts of the series!

The slang as it's used in Chrono Crusade's dub feels perfectly natural. And it's accurate for the time period. 'Nuff said

5.) What? You afraid to learn something? Wink I think I learned more about '20s slang after watching the first two episodes than I ever did in my entire life, and considering how much fun the setting is, I may someday write something set then - and it's nice to know that I have some of he right lingo down. Plus, it's just neat... (wow, I feel like making a site now, listing all the '20s refs and slang in CC... this is possibly bad, since I have no time to do it. Oi! Anime, why must you stealeth away my free time!? Oh screw it - I love you anyway! Laughing )

Now, as for Rosette's voice... yeah, she's a little squeaky at first, but she gets better the more you get into it. By episode three I stopped even bothering to wonder "Is the Japanese voice that squeaky?" (I always watch dubs first, so that the subs don't "ruin" the dub for me - otherwise, I usually can't listen to any English dub, because I get too used to just hearing the Japanese voices. Oddly, dubs have almost never "ruined" a sub for me...). Like I said... she gets better. Wink

Chrono's voice is perfect for him, as is Father Remington's, and Sister Kate's, an Joshua's... and overall excellent cast. And the foley's usually great.

Everything else the reviewer complemented the series on I agree with - top notch production, great story and characters, even the pacing's good! Though the music wasn't so fantastic as he suggests (except for the ending theme... that is so damn pretty; come to think of it, I guess I'm mostly just thinking of the OP that's not so great), it works very, very well with the series (notice the brief, if barely audible, snippet of Ode To Joy in the background during Rosette's first on-screen battle? Priceless).

Why is there no mention of this DVD's extras, though? They're great!

I have never seen so huge a collection of such high-quality production art (I lost count after about two dozen!), nor so cool a set of series notes (designed like a '20s newspaper!), and the commentary on episode one (which was advertized on Right Stuf and appears on the disc, but is for some reason not listed on the box) is good - informative, but also very fun (does Hilary really sound like that!? Whoa...). My only wish is that ADV had included at least one more episode's worth of commentary (but I'm an AC junkie, too, that could have something to do with it). The menus are even nice.

The art box is drop-dead gorgeous, too... Razz

I haven't been so satisfied with a DVD purchase since Excel Saga! Good stuff...


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