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NEWS: Toei Animation Sues 869 BitTorrent Users Over One Piece


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1945113



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:03 pm Reply with quote
Freakin' pathetic...I hate Toei Animation and One Piece -_-.
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TitanXL



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:03 pm Reply with quote
What an oddly specific number
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Spotlesseden



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:06 pm Reply with quote
should be 666 users. I don't know why people still download OP illegally when you can watch it for free. Also, I don't know why people are mad, when they know it's illegal.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:08 pm Reply with quote
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should be 666 users. I don't know why people still download OP illegally when you can watch it for free.


They live outside of America or don't want to deal with ads (though adblocker fixes that for me).
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:08 pm Reply with quote
Insert pun involving pirates and CSI:Miami style "YEAAAAAH"
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What I am wondering is, other than going through the discovery process and then using the contact information to request/demand settlements of the implicated parties, have any of these styles of anonymous John Doe lawsuits actually made it through to trial with the John Does given names? I've heard of many cases, like the Funimation one, where they end up getting dismissed before trial due to jurisdiction-related issues, but I can't say I've heard any get further than that. I assume the point is not to go through discovery and then launch a whole bunch of individual lawsuits in jurisdictions all over the place, because that would be too costly (though it may be what the judges demand).

As you can clearly see, I am not a lawyer, but I'm confused why companies keep trying this if it doesn't seem to work (unless, again, the settlements are the point). Then again, this was filed back in late-September so who knows.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:09 pm Reply with quote
Japanese businessmen are control freaks that would no doubt feel they have the right to evasdrop on their consumers. Sad thing is they do because they think One Piece is the hottest thing on earth when the truth is it is barely known outside japan.
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Spotlesseden



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:10 pm Reply with quote
RyanSaotome wrote:
Spotlesseden wrote:
should be 666 users. I don't know why people still download OP illegally when you can watch it for free.


They live outside of America or don't want to deal with ads (though adblocker fixes that for me).


I think they are only going after people who are in US.
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Tsukento



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:11 pm Reply with quote
Yeah! How dare the animation company sue people for illegally downloading episodes of their series! I mean, it's not like Americans have any way of obtaining these episodes legally via DVD or streaming!

Wait, what?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:12 pm Reply with quote
Tsukento wrote:
Yeah! How dare the animation company sue people for illegally downloading episodes of their series!

Wait, what?


Suing individual people never works, though. Its just a waste of time... you need to go after the people distributing the rips (like HS).
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:12 pm Reply with quote
Didn't Funimation try the same thing before and fail?
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bradc



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:14 pm Reply with quote
Here we go again. What year is it?
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relentlessflame wrote:
What I am wondering is, other than going through the discovery process and then using the contact information to request/demand settlements of the implicated parties, have any of these styles of anonymous John Doe lawsuits actually made it through to trial with the John Does given names? I've heard of many cases, like the Funimation one, where they end up getting dismissed before trial due to jurisdiction-related issues, but I can't say I've heard any get further than that. I assume the point is not to go through discovery and then launch a whole bunch of individual lawsuits in jurisdictions all over the place, because that would be too costly (though it may be what the judges demand).

As you can clearly see, I am not a lawyer, but I'm confused why companies keep trying this if it doesn't seem to work (unless, again, the settlements are the point). Then again, this was filed back in late-September so who knows.


My friend got sued by music companies for downloading mp3 music few years back. He just paid $3000+ for all the songs that he downloaded. I'm not sure what will happen if he goes to court.

I heard some people went to court and ended up paying 10 times the amount.
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Tsukento



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:15 pm Reply with quote
RyanSaotome wrote:
you need to go after the people distributing the rips (like HS).

Unfortunately, the problem with this sort of situation with any kind of piracy is that if you take one or two groups of people down, more will come. Can't really get rid of piracy.

But on the same token, it's easy to see why they would also target people who take part in downloading them via Bittorrent clients, since they keep the downloads alive by seeding them for other users to download..
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RyanSaotome



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:19 pm Reply with quote
Tsukento wrote:
RyanSaotome wrote:
you need to go after the people distributing the rips (like HS).

Unfortunately, the problem with this sort of situation with any kind of piracy is that if you take one or two groups of people down, more will come. Can't really get rid of piracy.


While that true, if you get the people paying huge fines that distribute the rips, it may scare off others from taking over. Obviously it won't scare everyone right away, but if you keep on doing it people will eventually stop bothering to rip stuff.
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