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Tuor_of_Gondolin
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Surrender Artist,
Ah, yeah. I remember that now.  So, sure, I'll be getting it once they release it here.
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SoandSo
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| Polycell wrote: |
You're fishing for reasons to be offended. All Key ever said was that long-time reviewers pay more attention to minor details than the average viewer. That's entirely a matter of attentiveness, which is completely divorced from intelligence(as I can attest to, having been viciously assaulted by the broad side of a ramp yet having great grades in most of my classes). |
A sentiment which is false, or at the least, not completely true. I'm not a long-time reviewer, nor is anyone I know personally, but we all love to analyze and pay extra attention to the little details in the margins. Interestingly, only one of us, among those of us who watch anime, enjoy this show. Attentiveness is not something which can be measured as lower or higher between critics and the "average person"(considering I've seen plenty of longtime critics who often miss the point spectacularly), nor does it validate BSP against criticism.
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Most of the people complaining do appear to be missing little details that seem to answer their complaints. If you don't like the story even after seeing the details, it's entirely due to differing tastes. |
If you don't mind spoiler tags, let's see you cite some of these little details that people are clearly missing that will instantly open their eyes to the gospel. Also, considering the second part of your statement, beyond the attempt to add a thin, false veneer of objectivity to things("If you still don't like the story after seeing all the details, the story's still really good and subtle, you just don't like it."), this sentence is essentially meaningless as all difference of opinion is due to differing tastes.
| Tuor_of_Gondolin wrote: |
I'm not really sure what you're saying here. As far as I can tell, I've been consistant throughout my posts on this subject. How did I indicate that I agreed with the sentiment's merit? The citation you provided shows me stating that I *do not* believe that Key was trying to imply that.
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"Well, I guess the whole reason behind demographically targetted advertising and the like is a complete fraud. And I guess there's no difference in outlook between people with high intelligence and those with average intelligence, right? That sure does seem to be what you're saying."
"*If* the above *is* what you're saying, then *I* have to call bullshit. I absolutely guarantee you that such differences do exist, and they aren't minor or ethereal."
| Quote: | Actually, your post said that *Key* is making that argument, not that some critic somewhere has made that argument. When reading what Key actually said, I didn't (and don't) find any merit in your view. All I see is your own insecurities causing you to make conclusions that are unsupported by what Key actually wrote.
You then comment about "actual valid points" without seeming to understand that people can see the exact same thing and have very different reactions to it. When you see something happen in a movie or an anime, you might think it is crazy cool, and I might think it's totally banal and idiotic, or vice versa. I might see a plot point as being brilliant or emotionally engaging, and you might see that same point as being overly complicated or completely predictable.
It's all subjective, and that means we'll all get something different out of it. There is no right or wrong in how you interpret it. But, it *is* unfair to accuse something of not being what it never claimed to be, and it was to people who were doing that that Key was addressing in his comments. If you are *not* doing that, then Key was *not* addressing you at all, so there is no reason to be bent out of shape over what he said. |
My point really isn't that difficult to understand, so it's honestly breaking my brain a little bit that you keep consistently missing it, but OK. For the very last time...
I cited Key's statement and his method of adressing dissenting opinion of this show as just a small part of a larger issue I've noticed in any anime forum I could care to name; fans of the show immediately dismissing opposing points as clouded by mistaken expectations, and thus their points can't be valid because they don't apply to what the show is trying to accomplish, when any four-year-old could read their posts and tell this is not at all the case. It's Wolf's Rain and Fate/Zero all over again.
Do you understand what "valid point" means? I can disagree with someone about the same thing up and down, probably won't ever change each other's minds, but so long as they can argue the reasoning behind their stance and can cite evidence within the show that supports them, even if I disagree with it, I can cede it as valid, and even if I can't, it's fully within their right to think whatever they choose.
This is not at all the same as arguing my stance by claiming that they're just interpreting the material incorrectly and if they payed more attention, they'd totally get it. At that point, you are NOT respecting the validity of their argument, you're discounting it, and that's all I ever see Key or any other fan of this show ever do in defending it. If BSP fans were respectful of opposing arguments on their own merits, I wouldn't give a shit. This show's barely interesting enough to talk about on its own anyway. I'm not talking about difference of opinion, I'm talking about condescension and disrespect.
I ask you, what's more unfair than accusing someone of interpreting something wrong(because you will always be the best judge of what something is trying to be) and disliking something for not being something it's not when their actual argument suggests that they either don't like what it's trying to be or, more likely, just don't think it's terribly good at what it's trying to be?
| Quote: | | As I understand it, one of the jobs of a critic is to help people interpret and understand what a movie or show is trying to accomplish. People are free to accept or reject that advice, and you're not stupid if you disagree with how a critic says you should interpret something in a movie or anime. OTOH, *I* would say that you are stupid if you reject their advice out-of-hand without first at least trying it, but that's me. |
People are free to like and dislike whatever they want. I don't care that anyone likes or dislikes BSP, but stop painting every criticism of it as off-base because everyone who dislikes must've misinterpreted what it wants to be when the evidence shows nothing but the opposite. Leaving aside weird skirts in space nitpicking, and yeah, I really don't get the strangely-specific comparisons to Lagrange and Evol either, but every post that expresses a dislike of this show communicates pretty clearly that they understand quite well what the show wants to be and what it's trying to accomplish; they're just arguing that it still fails at it. Sometimes, people just think something sucks. Deal with it. |
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Tuor_of_Gondolin
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:39 pm |
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| SoandSo wrote: | | Tuor_of_Gondolin wrote: |
I'm not really sure what you're saying here. As far as I can tell, I've been consistant throughout my posts on this subject. How did I indicate that I agreed with the sentiment's merit? The citation you provided shows me stating that I *do not* believe that Key was trying to imply that. |
"Well, I guess the whole reason behind demographically targetted advertising and the like is a complete fraud. And I guess there's no difference in outlook between people with high intelligence and those with average intelligence, right? That sure does seem to be what you're saying."
"*If* the above *is* what you're saying, then *I* have to call bullshit. I absolutely guarantee you that such differences do exist, and they aren't minor or ethereal." |
The above doesn't make me inconsistant because wasn't talking about right or wrong here, but rather about whether things like age, sex, social status (demographics) affect how you view/interpret things, and they do. And I also mentioned intelligence because yes, it does tend to effect how you interpret things. So does if you've been drinking, if you are worried about something, if you've had a good or bad day at work, how tired you are, who you are watching the show with, and so forth. I did *not* say that these things make someone's interpretation more right or wrong than anyone else's.
| SoandSo wrote: | | Tuor_of_Gondolin wrote: | Actually, your post said that *Key* is making that argument, not that some critic somewhere has made that argument. When reading what Key actually said, I didn't (and don't) find any merit in your view. All I see is your own insecurities causing you to make conclusions that are unsupported by what Key actually wrote.
You then comment about "actual valid points" without seeming to understand that people can see the exact same thing and have very different reactions to it. When you see something happen in a movie or an anime, you might think it is crazy cool, and I might think it's totally banal and idiotic, or vice versa. I might see a plot point as being brilliant or emotionally engaging, and you might see that same point as being overly complicated or completely predictable.
It's all subjective, and that means we'll all get something different out of it. There is no right or wrong in how you interpret it. But, it *is* unfair to accuse something of not being what it never claimed to be, and it was to people who were doing that that Key was addressing in his comments. If you are *not* doing that, then Key was *not* addressing you at all, so there is no reason to be bent out of shape over what he said. |
My point really isn't that difficult to understand, so it's honestly breaking my brain a little bit that you keep consistently missing it, but OK. For the very last time...
I cited Key's statement and his method of adressing dissenting opinion of this show as just a small part of a larger issue I've noticed in any anime forum I could care to name; fans of the show immediately dismissing opposing points as clouded by mistaken expectations, and thus their points can't be valid because they don't apply to what the show is trying to accomplish, when any four-year-old could read their posts and tell this is not at all the case. It's Wolf's Rain and Fate/Zero all over again. |
People who enjoy a series tend to pay a lot more attention to it than those who do not. Also, when you like something and you come across someone who doesn't like that thing, it's pretty natural for most people to wonder if you missed something and that doing so accounts for the difference in opinion. If you see something beautiful, you want to share that beauty with others, and if they can't see it, you want to help them see it so that they can enjoy it, too. Is that really so terrible? There doesn't need to be some comtemptuous or arrogant sneer behind such an impulse.
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| Quote: | | This is not at all the same as arguing my stance by claiming that they're just interpreting the material incorrectly and if they payed more attention, they'd totally get it. At that point, you are NOT respecting the validity of their argument, you're discounting it, and that's all I ever see Key or any other fan of this show ever do in defending it. If BSP fans were respectful of opposing arguments on their own merits, I wouldn't give a shit. This show's barely interesting enough to talk about on its own anyway. I'm not talking about difference of opinion, I'm talking about condescension and disrespect. |
And this is why I have trouble with the validity of your argument. You are claiming that Key is intentionally being condescending in his comments. I don't see it. I would wager that most people on this thread do not see it, either. I'm not discounting the fact that you certainly *feel* that way, but I am saying that I don't think it is justified. There are reasons for him to say that which have nothing to do with being condescending or disrespectful.
In fact, there are reasons that have to do with trying to *help* by providing advice on why you may be having problems enjoying it as much as others do. If a CPA gave you advice on how to get a bigger tax return, would you claim he was being condescending or thought that you were stupid? If a friend told you that you would enjoy steak more if you had it with good dark ale, would you immediately think he was mocking you for drinking Coke with it instead? Are you really so determined to dislike BSP that you will completely close yourself off to all advice and treat those who provided it as pack of gloating elitists? Because this is how you are coming across.
| Quote: | | I ask you, what's more unfair than accusing someone of interpreting something wrong(because you will always be the best judge of what something is trying to be) and disliking something for not being something it's not when their actual argument suggests that they either don't like what it's trying to be or, more likely, just don't think it's terribly good at what it's trying to be? |
Most of us on this board are avid fans of anime. This means that not only do we all really like anime, but that we want others to like anime as much as we do. When we give advice, it usually is with the intent that it will *help* people appreciate anime more, not so that we can beat up other people for having differing opinions. IMO, the unfairness comes in when you ascribe motives to people that are... less than upstanding, shall we say, when as far as most of us can tell, they're merely trying to be helpful.
| Quote: | | Tuor_of_Gondolin wrote: | | As I understand it, one of the jobs of a critic is to help people interpret and understand what a movie or show is trying to accomplish. People are free to accept or reject that advice, and you're not stupid if you disagree with how a critic says you should interpret something in a movie or anime. OTOH, *I* would say that you are stupid if you reject their advice out-of-hand without first at least trying it, but that's me. |
People are free to like and dislike whatever they want. I don't care that anyone likes or dislikes BSP, but stop painting every criticism of it as off-base because everyone who dislikes must've misinterpreted what it wants to be when the evidence shows nothing but the opposite. Leaving aside weird skirts in space nitpicking, and yeah, I really don't get the strangely-specific comparisons to Lagrange and Evol either, but every post that expresses a dislike of this show communicates pretty clearly that they understand quite well what the show wants to be and what it's trying to accomplish; they're just arguing that it still fails at it. Sometimes, people just think something sucks. Deal with it. |
I've already agreed that people are free to like what they want and dislike what they want. If you are *determined* to dislike something, then it is certain you will succeed in doing so. However, it *is* sometimes true that the viewer is not taking something into consideration and thus losing out on what might have become a pleasant experience for him. It's clear that *some* people do like the show, and that means that there was something about it that *they* liked, and perhaps something in the way they watched it helped make that happen. *If* you watched it and tried to see what they saw, you *may* end up liking it, too. Or, you may still dislike it. But that doesn't make their attempts contemptuous; it merely means that it's something you're not going to like no matter how you view it. |
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Key
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Before I get into responding to your comments, SoandSo: tone down the hostility. You are overreacting and throwing around very thinly-justified accusations, so consider this a mild warning.
Let's be clear about one thing here: you are considerably off-base in your interpretation of what I meant in my last post. Tuor_of_Gondolin has been right on the money with interpreting my actual intent. It's not a matter of intelligence at all, but what you're focusing on. I have been watching and/or reading professional reviews of movies, books, and TV programs since my upper elementary school years and have noticed over time that seasoned professional reviewers tend to look at/for different things in a movie than amateur reviewers and casual viewers do (which is probably partly why some are abjectly opposed to heeding anything a critic says). That's a consequence of professionalism, not elitism. Are there reviewers who are also elitist? Sure, and unfortunately many in the public seem to assume that they're the norm rather than the exception, but that is not true in my experience. Besides, I wouldn't even try to be elitist around here because, for as much as I watch and know about anime, there are non-reviewer forumites who watch and know more still. 
The main thrust of your arguments seems to be that you're irked that the opinions of those who have problems with BSP aren't being respected as valid. I'll certainly acknowledge a well-written dissenting opinion, but that doesn't mean I will respect it if I think it's patently wrong. I have listened to what everyone in these forums have said about BSP, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to accept the negative comments as right. The problems that you and some others have complained about in the series I either do not see or do not see as problems. For instance, I do not find anything bland or uninspiring about it. If others are then they're just not connecting with what the series is doing. You seem to find that to be a deprecation, but it is not intended as such; it is merely an acknowledgement that this isn't the kind of content that interests them. I have certainly seen other series that I have found bland and uninspiring that others have loved and I'll freely admit that those could be cases where the series' content just doesn't work for me. Why? Because I don't take the fact that I'm not "getting" something as an inherent assault on my intelligence or an automatic indication that the series is bad.
| Quote: | | If you don't mind spoiler tags, let's see you cite some of these little details that people are clearly missing that will instantly open their eyes to the gospel. |
I am leery about offering up a response to this, since you seem to be just looking for a target to shoot down, but I will offer this: Unlike the vast majority of other series that are nominally action titles, in this one characters don't just automatically accept Marika as a leader or heroine because of some degree of overwhelming charisma, power, or unique ability. They actively probe her motives and proposals to see if she really knows what she's doing or not. They make concerted efforts to be sure that she understands what she's getting into, what responsibilities she'll have, and what she must do. One even questions whether the ditziness Marika outwardly projects is the real her and comments on how giving that impression is counterproductive. In other words, other cast members are carefully preparing Marika for greatness rather than it just haphazardly happening. That's something that very, very few anime series have the patience (and take the time) to do. Some viewers clearly don't find that to be a particularly interesting approach, but some of us who are achingly tired of seeing heroes just step/slip into a cockpit and almost instantly become a master pilot are appreciating that greatly.
| Quote: | | Sometimes, people just think something sucks. Deal with it. |
And sometimes people just think a show is great. Deal with it. |
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Blood-
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:36 pm |
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| SoandSo wrote: | | Blood- wrote: | | SoandSo wrote: | | Hell, my favorite series, Rahxephon, takes four episodes to even introduce most of its primary cast. |
I don't dislike BSP as much as you do, but I was acknowledging that you were making reasonable points until I bumped into this. RahXephon asks the viewer to accept that a 29-year-old woman who is pretty kickass turns into a simpering mooncalf when she encounters the 17-year-old version of the boy she dated for 6 months WHEN SHE WAS 13 and hasn't seen since but for whom she has retained an all-consuming love even though she's almost 30. If you can accept that howler (along with many other of the show's faults) and still consider BlahXephon your, like, most favoritist anime of all time, you are hearby excused from ever expressing a serious opinion about any anime ever again. |
A Blood + fan of all things trying to pull a stupid ad hominem says what?
So about BSP... |
Oooo, devastating response. It is both gratifying and surprising to see you at a loss for words. Not that trying to defend something as half-baked as MehXephon leaves you much to say, of course. Oh, and look up the definition of ad hominem. You cited RahXephon as your favourite anime, thus introducing the subject in the first place. I guess you're having a hard time connecting the dots, so let me spell it out for you: somebody who thinks that show is, liek supah-great and stuff, shouldn't go around spouting off like like a smug, self-satisfied know-it-all about other shows.
I should also point out that I basically agree with the substance of your comments about BSP, it's just that you have a way of expressing your opinions that makes me [Comment removed. Comments like this are unnecessary. He was told to tone it down, you should do the same.]
Blood- eta: Hey, I don't mind being edited for infractions of the rules, but it would be nice to be intelligently edited. Leaving the "...it's just that you have a way of expressing your opinions that makes me [redacted]" is naturally going make readers very curious what was taken out. More moderator competence next time, please.
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Shenl742
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Holy crap, I'm going to need to see this series now...
just so I can find out why such a pleasant, fun looking series with a silly name could be so bat-**** insanely polarising
Everytime this show comes up, I'm just struck with such slack-jawed awe at the level of arguments that spring forth. |
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shukero
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"Falls into an effective but uninspiring stylistic rut after a dazzling start; poor transitions between arcs."
My thoughts exactly  I had high hopes because the start of this anime was very interesting, original, and serious; but at episode 6 it somewhat turned into a gag anime :*( That made me extremely sad! |
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Surrender Artist
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:13 pm |
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| Shenl742 wrote: | Holy crap, I'm going to need to see this series now...
just so I can find out why such a pleasant, fun looking series with a silly name could be so bat-**** insanely polarizing
Everytime this show comes up, I'm just struck with such slack-jawed awe at the level of arguments that spring forth. |
That's been flooring me too. Even though it isn't quite like what it says on the tin, it's still a fairly lighthearted, cheery series. I associate acrimony like this with ecchi shows. In this case, however, the roles seem some ways reversed.
| shukero wrote: | "Falls into an effective but uninspiring stylistic rut after a dazzling start; poor transitions between arcs."
My thoughts exactly I had high hopes because the start of this anime was very interesting, original, and serious; but at episode 6 it somewhat turned into a gag anime :*( That made me extremely sad! |
I was unperturbed by that, although it did worry me some, but episode seven returns to a more familiar tone. It also has a nice conversation between Chiaki and Emi that I think makes some of Marika's past behavior more significant. |
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shukero
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| Surrender Artist wrote: | | Shenl742 wrote: | Holy crap, I'm going to need to see this series now...
just so I can find out why such a pleasant, fun looking series with a silly name could be so bat-**** insanely polarizing
Everytime this show comes up, I'm just struck with such slack-jawed awe at the level of arguments that spring forth. |
That's been flooring me too. Even though it isn't quite like what it says on the tin, it's still a fairly lighthearted, cheery series. I associate acrimony like this with ecchi shows. In this case, however, the roles seem some ways reversed.
| shukero wrote: | "Falls into an effective but uninspiring stylistic rut after a dazzling start; poor transitions between arcs."
My thoughts exactly I had high hopes because the start of this anime was very interesting, original, and serious; but at episode 6 it somewhat turned into a gag anime :*( That made me extremely sad! |
I was unperturbed by that, although it did worry me some, but episode seven returns to a more familiar tone. It also has a nice conversation between Chiaki and Emi that I think makes some of Marika's past behavior more significant. |
Well I'll be extremely pleased if that does happen, cause that last episode through me for a HUGE leap. It's nice to have comedy, but sometimes it's overdone to the extreme
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dtm42
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| Blood- wrote: | I guess you're having a hard time connecting the dots, so let me spell it out for you: somebody who thinks that show is, liek supah-great and stuff, shouldn't go around spouting off like like a smug, self-satisfied know-it-all about other shows.
...it's just that you have a way of expressing your opinions that makes me [wiped] |
You say you don't like getting into beefs, but here you are, egging this guy on and exclaiming how much you'd like to use physical violence on him.
Ahem.
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nechronius
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| Surrender Artist wrote: |
That's been flooring me too. Even though it isn't quite like what it says on the tin, it's still a fairly lighthearted, cheery series. I associate acrimony like this with ecchi shows. In this case, however, the roles seem some ways reversed. |
I'm a bit perplexed at how much acrimony this show is drawing as well (good word to describe it, acrimony). It's a smartly written, light hearted series so far that doesn't pander to fan service or shoot-em-up action. A refreshing change from the norm yet all these people up in arms because a lot of us like it because it's different from the usual fan service and action heavy landscape.
To touch upon what I posted before, yes I'm well aware that pirate + letter of marque = privateer.  Given that the show calls itself "pirates" I was just using that term liberally.
And I'm also quite sure that there has to be "more" than simple dinner theater since there's been hints of it, I'm just hoping they get to it properly and don't just run out of time. Only 6 episodes left?
I totally get the New York taxi cab analogy as well. A similar analogy is only granting X number of hunting licenses for Y hunting season with a cap of Z animals taken overall, so that is perfectly logical. What I *don't* understand is what the big deal is with being the *heir* of a pirate(ahem, "privateer") and how it relates to becoming one yourself. It is such a key point right from episode one that I don't recall why exactly this matters. Is it the inheritance of the ship? The right to call yourself a pirate? Why can't just any of the existing ship's crew say, "hey, I can captain a pirate ship" and then apply for a letter of marque. I guess maybe I'm getting hung up on this particular point which may get explained clearly later on anyway. Or did I just miss it along the way? |
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Polycell
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| nechronius wrote: | | And I'm also quite sure that there has to be "more" than simple dinner theater since there's been hints of it, I'm just hoping they get to it properly and don't just run out of time. Only 6 episodes left? |
It's two cour. There's a full 19 episodes remaining. | Quote: | | I totally get the New York taxi cab analogy as well. A similar analogy is only granting X number of hunting licenses for Y hunting season with a cap of Z animals taken overall, so that is perfectly logical. What I *don't* understand is what the big deal is with being the *heir* of a pirate(ahem, "privateer") and how it relates to becoming one yourself. It is such a key point right from episode one that I don't recall why exactly this matters. Is it the inheritance of the ship? The right to call yourself a pirate? Why can't just any of the existing ship's crew say, "hey, I can captain a pirate ship" and then apply for a letter of marque. I guess maybe I'm getting hung up on this particular point which may get explained clearly later on anyway. Or did I just miss it along the way? |
I recall reading somewhere that it was an edict of the Galactic Empire, which would presumably do so to try and reduce the number of pirates without causing an uproar. |
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| Well, I am enjoying B. Space Pirates. It isn't my favorite show of all time, but I was fascinated by the whole story on the Odette II. I liked the idea of having conflict come in the form of technical malfunction of the solar sails. As those who have watched the show know, the solar sails become important to the plot in episode 5, so it was good writing to introduce them earlier. All of the careful strategizing and the way it fell apart was very interesting. Now the show has gone in a different direction, that I could not have guessed. All of that means the show has kept me entertained. |
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Surrender Artist
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| Polycell wrote: | | Quote: | | I totally get the New York taxi cab analogy as well. A similar analogy is only granting X number of hunting licenses for Y hunting season with a cap of Z animals taken overall, so that is perfectly logical. What I *don't* understand is what the big deal is with being the *heir* of a pirate(ahem, "privateer") and how it relates to becoming one yourself. It is such a key point right from episode one that I don't recall why exactly this matters. Is it the inheritance of the ship? The right to call yourself a pirate? Why can't just any of the existing ship's crew say, "hey, I can captain a pirate ship" and then apply for a letter of marque. I guess maybe I'm getting hung up on this particular point which may get explained clearly later on anyway. Or did I just miss it along the way? |
I recall reading somewhere that it was an edict of the Galactic Empire, which would presumably do so to try and reduce the number of pirates without causing an uproar. |
It's possible that the Empire wanted to lower the number of privateers, but thought that directly revoking letters of marque would provoke too much resistance, so they preferred to simply cease issuing new one and let the number of privateers shrink by attrition. Letters of marque were presumably already heritable, like a title of nobility, perhaps as an incentive to for captains to assume the risks of becoming a privateer.
This could all even be the consequence of policy being improvised as needed over several decades. Perhaps legal conventions establishing the heritability of certain grants of privilege from the government were an already standing concept, then letters of marque were issued as such heritable grants for clerical convenience, then after the war, rather than abrogate contracts, the government elected to continue to recognize them, but issue no new ones. Then there's the question of whether letters of marque fall under imperial or local law, which I'm sure is a far more tedious and technical issue than the author bothered to inflict upon himself.
The wonderful thing about law and politics is that the stupidest things imaginable can be true for the dumbest reasons. |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:49 pm |
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I always find it interesting how variable the opinions on this show are. I have found it the most enjoyable show of the season and if it keeps up, it will be added to my BluRay library when Sentai gets around to releasing it. It is a breath of fresh air, in my opinion...
The first six episodes, that this review is based on, were fun and very enjoyable. The most recent episodes are even better, with the schedule Marika is having to keep catching up with her, and Chiaki's antics too. |
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