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walw6pK4Alo

Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 5531
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:57 pm |
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| dragoneyes001 wrote: | the weapons trade is a multi trillion dollar business worldwide the people selling arms to armies and militias are business men who deal with millions upon millions of dollars they simply are not in any way flighty zipperheads like koko is portrayed to be (No one would do business with her) the buyers in many cases maybe nuts tyrants or downright sociopaths but the sellers simply wouldn't live long enough if they we're even remotely as stupid as is being portrayed in the anime. painting on some corporation which she works for is ludicrous.
if you want to know about Rwanda and what happened there I suggest you look it up. I'm not going to post the details in a forum.
bad enough I have to remember what happened. |
Why do Bond villains never outright shoot him in the head when they have the chance? Why do the villain's goons never lead when they're firing upon Bond as he runs without cover? Because it's fiction. |
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Key Moderator

Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 10130 Location: Indianapolis, IN (formerly Mimiho Valley)
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:58 am |
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Due to multiple complaints from multiple people about his behavior in this thread (some of them definitely justified), dragoneyes001 is banned from further participation until further notice. Violation of this will be grounds for general Moderation.
And he might not be the only one getting such treatment for misbehavior here, either. Further consequences could come when I have a chance to peruse this thread in detail (and not just respond to complaints) later in the day, as it looked like he wasn't the only one at fault from the trio of posts that I read. |
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DuskyPredator

Joined: 10 Mar 2009 Posts: 4793 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:02 am |
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We are watching here, a medium where the strength of someone may be in poportion to how insane they are, can we just stop the fights about how unrealistic it is. I agree with you dragoneyes001, the impossibilities can be distracting, and it being anime does not mean it is an excuse, but lets just pretend this is a world where nutty people deal in guns, I think it was mentioned that they sell to specific groups rather than large armies.
On the note of nutters, I am finding my main draw of this series actually are the nutty gals, it actually is one of my ..... I know there is a word, but fetish sounds too strong and self depriciating. The not wearing panties thing probably also helped, I blame Mysterious Girlfriend for getting my interest in it this week.
Do you know what came to mind when I saw them in the gun fights in this episode? It was Upotte, it is starting to leak into my pschie whith association with guns. There is not a lot holding me to this series, except for partially the main character, yuri, and the recently realised nutty girls. |
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ggqt

Joined: 19 Mar 2012 Posts: 149
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:50 am |
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| Hey Key, I'm still waiting on those book titles/ authors you where talking about. I've just about watched almost every Americana TV show and anime out there, so I'm pretty bored. |
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Key Moderator

Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 10130 Location: Indianapolis, IN (formerly Mimiho Valley)
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:37 am |
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| ggqt wrote: | | Hey Key, I'm still waiting on those book titles/ authors you where talking about. I've just about watched almost every Americana TV show and anime out there, so I'm pretty bored. |
You'll have to refresh my memory on when and where this came up because I'm drawing a blank. |
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DuskyPredator

Joined: 10 Mar 2009 Posts: 4793 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:37 am |
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This might be completly stupid, but reading that really brought me back to Professor Denton from Heroman, that engrish word has such strong effects. |
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infiltration.cru

Joined: 28 Jan 2012 Posts: 321
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:40 pm |
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have to agree with a lot of the things said about episode 3. it seemed to me like a lower budget episode. the characters standing statically in one place and randomly firing at each other just looked like the animators were too lazy to have them run around for cover and so on.
generally the writing felt lazy, the episode didn't really come across as having a fluid structure, more like different pieces roughly patched together. |
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One-Eye

Joined: 08 Mar 2011 Posts: 742
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:01 pm |
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| I also have to agree with what has been said about ep 3. The yuri aspect worked for me, the philosophizing was clumsy, and the action was neither good or dynamic. Hopefully they will remedy some of that in ep 4. |
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ggqt

Joined: 19 Mar 2012 Posts: 149
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:11 pm |
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| Key wrote: | | ggqt wrote: | | Hey Key, I'm still waiting on those book titles/ authors you where talking about. I've just about watched almost every Americana TV show and anime out there, so I'm pretty bored. |
You'll have to refresh my memory on when and where this came up because I'm drawing a blank. |
Back in the Accel World thread, when we were talking about writing with perfect grammar. |
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Kirkdawg
Space Cowboy

Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 685 Location: California, USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:13 pm |
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| So, can we get back to talking about Jormungand in this thread or what? |
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ggqt

Joined: 19 Mar 2012 Posts: 149
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:54 pm |
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| Kirkdawg wrote: | | So, can we get back to talking about Jormungand in this thread or what? |
Lol. Why would we? that makes no sense. |
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Surrender Artist

Joined: 01 May 2011 Posts: 2270 Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:57 pm |
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The third episode wasn't quite as much fun as the first two. Something about Sharkboy and Lava Girl failed to catch m y interest, even though the script tried so hard to build them up as crazy and give them a nifty gimmick. I must, however, give credit to Sharkboy for being one of curiously few anime men to overly reject lusting after jailbait.
Having Koko's team try to give Jonah an education was a nice touch; one that I hope is revisited from time to time in the future rather than just shown off once. It could help the series a lot if it takes dealing with the conditioning that he suffered as a child soldier seriously. The little lecture that Lehm gave him was probably meant to be part of that, but it just seemed to sap tension from the scene.
Valmet's adoration of Koko is cute, I just hope that it doesn't go unresolved, one way or another, forever. Koko is still very entertaining. Why do I always dig the crazy ones?
I think that this series will stay up to the task of being fun, throwaway entertainingment, but I'm beginning to lose hope that it will be something more satisfying than that.
| Blood- wrote: | | Although, this episode did have my least favourite action trope: assassins who are ostensibly great shots missing with machinegun fire at virtually point blank range simply because the target being shot at is a main character. |
He was clearly possessed by the spirit of Kirika Yūmura.
(I should not have had to dig as far back as I did to find that post) |
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Ikari1

Joined: 23 Jun 2008 Posts: 531 Location: London
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:04 am |
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The strength of this series definatly lay in it's characters and outrageous actions scenes rather than its realism. For people that are knowledgable in such weapons, certain expectations of a series all about the arms trade will probably be killed with fire and understandably be seen as a dissapointment as dragoneyes has not so quietly shown. But yeah it doesnt really bother me, I knew what I was letting myself in for the moment I saw a javelin fired from a moving car to strike a target less than 40 metres away in the first episode
Like I said though if it really bothered you, you could have worked this out by the first episode.
Anyhow I quite like the show. I like the interaction between Koko and Jonah and I also quite like the dialogue which has it's moments. |
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Spastic Minnow
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Joined: 02 May 2006 Posts: 2489 Location: Milwaukee
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:54 am |
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Yeah, you have to let it go...
still, watching a scene where a guy is having a conversation with a girl while he's firing a machine gun two inches away from her ear can't help but make you grimace slightly. |
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Ikari1

Joined: 23 Jun 2008 Posts: 531 Location: London
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:08 pm |
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| It is painfully obvious in parts. Deflecting the Javelin missle with a well timed grenade was my personal favourite. I thought this was quite bad until I saw Upotte!! just now. They spent half an episode in that slagging off the l85A2 and telling everyone what a terrible weapon it is even after H&K upgraded it and basically saying what a bunch of idiots the British were for still using it. |
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