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Shakugan no Shana III (Final) (TV).


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Ferian



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:37 pm Reply with quote
SomaRukido wrote:
spoiler[after yuji's exsistence is restored by Lami's unrestricted spell, he becomes a normal human again, right? Doesn't that mean he'll lose all his powers, and that he'll live a mortal life? He can't be with shana forever that way! Also, what happens to the Reiji Maigo! So many unanswered questions! And does his family remember him in Xanadu! They need to make an OVA showing what goes on over there Mad]

spoiler[1) No, Yuuji does not become a "normal human" but a unique existence probably closest in nature to what Johann and Pheles have created. He retains all his powers and tremendous Power of Existence.
2) I would totally watch that OVA.]
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SomaRukido



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:46 pm Reply with quote
Ferian wrote:
SomaRukido wrote:
spoiler[after yuji's exsistence is restored by Lami's unrestricted spell, he becomes a normal human again, right? Doesn't that mean he'll lose all his powers, and that he'll live a mortal life? He can't be with shana forever that way! Also, what happens to the Reiji Maigo! So many unanswered questions! And does his family remember him in Xanadu! They need to make an OVA showing what goes on over there Mad]

spoiler[1) No, Yuuji does not become a "normal human" but a unique existence probably closest in nature to what Johann and Pheles have created. He retains all his powers and tremendous Power of Existence.
2) I would totally watch that OVA.]
Ah, alright thanks for the explanation Very Happy
I hope they do make an OVA lol, it really needs to be done
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Mad_Scientist
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 6:33 pm Reply with quote
Regarding the final fate of the Midnight Lost Child... (light novel spoilers)spoiler[ it broke. When the Snake of the Festival used his technique to extract unlimited Power of Existence from it, it put enough strain on the treasure that the gears came undone. Though it would have only taken about a couple of lines of dialogue to include this in the anime, they still left it out for some reason, which seems odd considering how important the treasure was throughout the series.]
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SomaRukido



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 6:47 pm Reply with quote
Mad_Scientist wrote:
Regarding the final fate of the Midnight Lost Child... (light novel spoilers)spoiler[ it broke. When the Snake of the Festival used his technique to extract unlimited Power of Existence from it, it put enough strain on the treasure that the gears came undone. Though it would have only taken about a couple of lines of dialogue to include this in the anime, they still left it out for some reason, which seems odd considering how important the treasure was throughout the series.]

I see...that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.
Where can I read the novel? I searched for it on google but nothing significant came up.
Also, just so Im clear, spoiler[Margery stayed in the real world right?]
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:04 pm Reply with quote
SomaRukido wrote:
Mad_Scientist wrote:
Regarding the final fate of the Midnight Lost Child... (light novel spoilers)spoiler[ it broke. When the Snake of the Festival used his technique to extract unlimited Power of Existence from it, it put enough strain on the treasure that the gears came undone. Though it would have only taken about a couple of lines of dialogue to include this in the anime, they still left it out for some reason, which seems odd considering how important the treasure was throughout the series.]

I see...that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.
Where can I read the novel? I searched for it on google but nothing significant came up.
Also, just so Im clear, spoiler[Margery stayed in the real world right?]


The first two novels were officially released by Viz, and you can probably still order them online a few places. I believe Amazon had them the last time I checked, though there were only a few copies of each volume left. If you do buy them, make sure you're getting the Light Novels, and not the manga adaption (which was also released by Viz).

Unfortunately, Viz apparently decided that the series didn't sell well enough to release future volumes. There are fan translations for some of them online, including a translation of the majority of the final novel, but I can't link to them because it would violate ANN forum policy. Also, some of those translations are a bit rough and hard to follow at times, but it's still better than nothing.

As I said, I can't link you to them, so I can only suggest that you try some more google searches.

As for your spoiler question: spoiler[yes, she stayed on earth.]
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SomaRukido



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:10 pm Reply with quote
Mad_Scientist wrote:
SomaRukido wrote:
Mad_Scientist wrote:
Regarding the final fate of the Midnight Lost Child... (light novel spoilers)spoiler[ it broke. When the Snake of the Festival used his technique to extract unlimited Power of Existence from it, it put enough strain on the treasure that the gears came undone. Though it would have only taken about a couple of lines of dialogue to include this in the anime, they still left it out for some reason, which seems odd considering how important the treasure was throughout the series.]

I see...that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.
Where can I read the novel? I searched for it on google but nothing significant came up.
Also, just so Im clear, spoiler[Margery stayed in the real world right?]

The first two novels were officially released by Viz, and you can probably still order them online a few places. I believe Amazon had them the last time I checked, though there were only a few copies of each volume left. If you do buy them, make sure you're getting the Light Novels, and not the manga adaption (which was also released by Viz).

Unfortunately, Viz apparently decided that the series didn't sell well enough to release future volumes. There are fan translations for some of them online, including a translation of the majority of the final novel, but I can't link to them because it would violate ANN forum policy. Also, some of those translations are a bit rough and hard to follow at times, but it's still better than nothing.

As I said, I can't link you to them, so I can only suggest that you try some more google searches.

As for your spoiler question: spoiler[yes, she stayed on earth.]
Alright thanks for the info
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MaxSouth



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:49 am Reply with quote
Explanations that cite the novel is good thing, but the anime still makes no sense. Novel -- maybe, but not the anime.
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lukezskywalk



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:29 pm Reply with quote
I just finished this series as well. And I agree with the Mad Scientist and Ferrain on most of the points.

As far as character development goes I think Shakugan no Shana III did a tremendous job. Their decisions and actions are complex, mature if not flawed - far from the slice of life/love triangles so many Shounen series fell prey to.

Has it been 4 years since II? Most fans of Shana grew up during that time, and so did Shana.

Bravo for a wonderful series and a great closure to so many of us who grew up with the Flame-Haired Red-Hot-Eyed Hunter!
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nbahn



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:49 pm Reply with quote
lukezskywalk--
I disagree; I see this as a downward arc made all the more tragic because the first season was so DAMNED GOOD!
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TarsTarkas



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:05 am Reply with quote
lukezskywalk wrote:
I just finished this series as well. And I agree with the Mad Scientist and Ferrain on most of the points.

As far as character development goes I think Shakugan no Shana III did a tremendous job. Their decisions and actions are complex, mature if not flawed - far from the slice of life/love triangles so many Shounen series fell prey to.

Has it been 4 years since II? Most fans of Shana grew up during that time, and so did Shana.

Bravo for a wonderful series and a great closure to so many of us who grew up with the Flame-Haired Red-Hot-Eyed Hunter!


If viewed with all the other preceding seasons, Shakugan no Shana III went off the rails. As has been mentioned earlier they mangled Yuji's character and seemed to have turned Shana into some 'stand by your man' caricature.
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Riddley



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:52 am Reply with quote
TarsTarkas wrote:
If viewed with all the other preceding seasons, Shakugan no Shana III went off the rails. As has been mentioned earlier they mangled Yuji's character and seemed to have turned Shana into some 'stand by your man' caricature.


I disagree. She loved him. If anything she was trying to put him in his place when it came to their relationship. She felt he was wrong, and in her world he was, so she fought against him. That's about as far from the "stand-by-your-man" caricature you can get.

I think the 1st season was the worst of the three, particularly in terms of character design and artwork. I preferred the third season because there was much more interesting dynamics between characters, it was more mature, and the plot was stimulating.

God, the eyes in season 1...I have nightmares about them.
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