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Eureka Seven: AO (TV).

Has anyone noticed corals burst down vs up in the first series?
(If i remember correctly the coral arrived on the planet fairly early and spread around the world so the consciousness thing has a base, all the information absorbed aka nations etc lives on in an alternate blah.)

Also AO has no flow to it, over an episode etc it's just silly.
They move the characters around freely by huge distances without even showing us a travel shot or giving a reason why etc.

Going from the start of a battle, back to base for a quick chat then back to the battle is silly and i think the people behind the scenes may have gotten their experience from a different genre show.
Something that didn't require plot to stay in relation to character location or grow with human interaction.

I'm no expert but without any sense of travel or relationships between the characters this show will flop if it hasn't already.

Hi i'm AO yoroshiku *waves, oh you hate your dad too let's be friends in arms (somehow instant romantic tension), "Let's win this fight, For Asland!!"

Gah is my only response to this, i will continue to watch in honor of my dear Eureka~ but i know i'll suffer through it.

Episode 10:

After I told my SO about Ao's bright idea, he said, spoiler["Ah, an in-tents situation."]

As for Truth's assertion that spoiler[putting a bunch of people in harm's way would reveal something important about the Secrets... maybe they aren't dead, but transported somewhere? It would fit in with the episode's theme of the pied piper.]

Episde 11, and I still have no clue what this series is supposed to be about. If not Eureka 7, I would have dropped it, it is, in short, boring. A massive amount of characters, an watching them is quite painful since they are mostly really dull and the writers just try to attach some sort of cliché stories to them. It feels they create confusion for the sake of confusion, and I am not really buying it.

The hallucination bit was a bit ridiculous and all in all brought nothing to the plot.

This show had quite a good start but all I have seen in the past 6/7 episodes was just dragging on some chaotic sub plots that lead to nowhere. The team is shot to Saudi Arabia, US, Australia, but that brings us nowhere closer to a coherent plot.

I'm actually considering dropping this one... it's making absolutely no sense anymore. I had no clue what was going on with that last episode (EP 11) at all.

On the other hand, I'm glad that it finally confirmed that this is indeed somehow related to the events of the original series, thanks to spoiler[the hallucination/flashback that showed the moon from the end of the original series with Eureka and Renton's names etched into the surface.] Unfortunately, that's about all the tie-in we get right now, as it did nothing to explain how any of spoiler[the stuff in the flashback] was related to the current series.

I thought Ep 10 and 11 were both pretty good. I'm sure E7 fans will EVENTUALLY be rewarded for watching the whole show.

I agree with Banken, 10 & 11 started to bring in the mystery like the original one. Hopefully it'll start to pick up and stop being about mecha battles and more about the story/characters.

Couple facts to keep in mind for you theorists trying to figure out the story:

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- E7 took place 10,000 years in the future (121st century). That means it's an alternate universe, regardless of how she got there (went back in time, or just skips dimensions). It would be far fetched to think that a world similar to ours existed beneath the scrub coral considering the coral itself was attached in multiple places in massive columns to the earth (we see that in the images when Renton, Eureka, and the kids go down the "rabbit hole", so to speak).

- AO is likely Renton's kid. Look at the hair color he sports before getting into the Nirvash and in the baby photo.

- During Naru's little "flashback" scene, we see that the Nirvash came down in a scrub burst that affected Naru. It came after Eureka likely since Naru and Ao are the same age. That means Eureka had to have given birth by then.

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- Eureka's Nirvash was painted the same colors as the original in the flashbacks.

- In Ep 11, during the hallucinations in the car, Ao says, "Naru, Mama" and we see Elena as Eureka, with the forehead dot and all. Interesting since in the photos, she's lacking it. That implies Eureka can change her form, explaining why she doesn't have wings.

- All of this implies she likely went back in time after having been with Renton and gotten pregnant, with the Nirvash coming after her.

- However, interestingly in E7, the Nirvash is female (we find that out in the final episode) and is the key to the scrub coral's design of trying to communicate. The Nirvash takes Eureka's place in the end as Eureka and Renton are ejected. So why does it show up in this world? The implication might be that at the point Eureka and Renton are ejected, a space-time rift happens where the Scrub Coral then starts to push into the past in an alternate universe (anytime you go into the past you are creating alternate universes).

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- Further keep in mind that while events might happen simultaneously in the future, if you are going to the past the events could happen at any time. For instance, in one of the fights they indicate the Secret resembled one in 1752? Regardless of the date, the old etching shown indicates it happened hundreds of years in the past.

- Keep in mind that in E7, the coral didn't just disappear. We see Axel and the children in Bellforest, which of course sits on top of the coral. So it still exists in that world. But that doesn't mean it might not be sending itself into the past into an alternate dimension.

- Elena's "hallucination" showed a tower, the descent of Eureka, Renton, and the kids in the Nirvash to earth beneath the coral, and the moon. That figures as more of a memory. So the question begs to be asked, what was Eureka doing with Elena and what was that vision? It could be that Eureka was part of the program to develop those trapar changed children, who knows. Could be she also forgot Renton and that life when she descended.

- I suppose the point is, we've lots of series left and there are many questions which we hope will be answered. But as with any TV series, probably not all will be addressed.

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spoiler[I don't think the Nirvash was intended to be female per say, it just had a female voice. Of course, planes and ships are referred to as female, so... lol It wouldn't have had the same effect if it had been a male voice.

In the picture of Eureka, her hair was covering the spot where her 'dot' would be. In the opening, it's clearly visible. It's not that she can change her shape so much as that she grew her hair out to cover it. ]

My personal theory is that something (spoiler[ probably related to Eureka falling out of her world and into this world ]) caused the creation of this alternate history (if we assume the world itself is technically the same).

So I think it the stories are directly connected, but they did it in a way that it would be just loosely connected enough that could be enjoyed as a totally separate story. Besides, it would have been pretty hard to make a more direct sequel worth watching with a story concluded like that.

I'm sure they're eventually going to show exactly what happened to Eureka. All in good time...

lol well I thought it was pretty strange that spoiler[the whole series in E7 Eureka is referring to the Nirvash as "he" but then it has a female voice Very Happy

Still good point, the gender, or lack-thereof isn't really important. I just thought it was interesting.]

I didn't notice that about the pic, good one there. Will be interesting to see if that trend continues. Still spoiler[she didn't get the forehead dot until after she got wings and the change, so the fact she's missing her wings now says she had to have some kind of control over it, especially since int he descending scene we don't see her with wings either, so not like they were hidden or removed at some point when she came into this world.]

I agree with your theory and point about continuing a story with such finality. Will be interesting to see just what that is though. i've got my suspicions, as I mention above. Personally I'm enjoying this series so far. E7 started slow too, so will be interested to see how it goes.

Episode 11 actually made a lot of sense to me.

spoiler["Elena" who joined Generation Bleu as a pilot was a Coralian or something similar. "Miller" was prepped as an infiltrator by some part of the US government. They met at GBHQ, discovered how simliar they looked, and at some point decided to pull off a Parent Trap-style switch. The Coralian (or whatever) disintegrated and the one left is the US agent.

Meanwhile, Eureka has returned to the Corals once again (or maybe they retain a copy of her from before she appeared in Ao's world). The particles that infiltrated Alleluia have a link to her consciousness. She's trying to bring Ao back to her world, which is "outside", which leans me a little further towards his world being a Scub Coral simulation rather than a true alternate dimension/timeline.]

I do still wonder what they meant by spoiler[the particles which appear to have come from the Scub Corals being just like Secrets. Does this mean Secrets are just malfunctions, rather than a second intelligent entity?]

ETA: I realized much later than I should have that "Miller" and "mirror" come out the same when transliterated to Japanese.

Interesting thoughts...

spoiler[If your theory about Elena is true though, that makes all Secrets Coralians because they clearly state that the dust, which "Miller" was made of, was a Secret. Also though, at the end, she buries the wig and says goodbye Miller...goodbye Elena. That part struck me. Why say goodbye to herself? I think something else is going on, but I like your spin on it.]

However, I DO sympathize with your theory about Eureka. I actually think that's an even better theory than any others posted. It could very well be that spoiler[it all happened within the scrub coral and maybe he's not even real? Or maybe his consciousness is stuck there like the others? In that kind of "reality" Eureka could easily change her appearance to suit stuff. Plus it sort of lines up with the whole themes of the anime's universe.]

Damn, that's what I get for watching the dub instead of the sub. Normally I'd watch the subs, but I loved the voice acting of the english dub...excelt Bosch's though...god him as Renton came across as way more whiney...

honestly in love with this series, was a bit scheptical at first incase they screwed it up (being a massive E7 fan) but its episode 12 and im still enjoying it and enjoying the plot development,
tho i have to say haveing spoiler[ 2 "Nirvash"] is a bit confuseing but i imagine that will be exsplained in due time

I was halfway through Ep 12 and I was going to post a few interesting spoilers, but than HOLY SHIT. Just watch it.

Oh yeah, the in-show text labels what everyone has called "Scub" corals as "Scab" corals, just like I always thought they were really called (since in the original E7 they were [spoiler]a giant scab over the earth[/quote]).

So, booyah.

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