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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:45 pm Reply with quote
Polycell wrote:
angelmcazares wrote:
If you refer to $65 as the money used to see 5 hour long anime episodes in movie theaters, that is not expensive. I do not know how exactly movie theaters work in Japan, but in the United States people seem to be happy to pay $10-15 just to watch a movie.
Actually, I was estimating $5 for a ticket to a normal episode. It's been forever since I've been to a theater, so I'm probably way off base.


Oh, I see.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:57 pm Reply with quote
I'm guessing theres been a little bit of "all of the above" going on with this fiasco. Judging by the reactions of Ichiki, how the whole thing played out, other industry members Unfollowing people from Twitter et al over this. Kikuchi deriding his own singer publicly around the same period which extends peoples negative view of him. And I'm sure just the "juiciest" clips may have been put together out of the extended videos.

But theres too much going on here for me to think it's just all a misunderstanding. Who would think up something like this as just a publicity stunt? Especially when bullying is such a hot button topic with Otaku in Japan.

This was some of the ugly underbelly that happens behind the scenes that we're not supposed to see. Sempai/Kouhai relations, etc.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:15 pm Reply with quote
Polycell wrote:
The outrage is genuine. The only question is whether or not "crazy antifans" or trolls doctored the clips or if those are real.

I don't think that was ever a question. Most of the live streams and radio shows where the clips/translations were taken from can still be found online in their entirety.
That's why the first apology by the staff only made things worse. They claimed that the videos were altered when everyone could clearly see that they were not.

Take the excerpts mentioned here: http://pastebin.com/​Pu2hADMc

The full versions:
The live event where the audition was revealed to be fake and Ichiki Mitsuhiro was made the "PR Head":
http://www.ustream.tv/​recorded/​23525790

Live stream from the Kokoro Connect van with Ichiki and Kanemoto Hisako: http://www.ustream.tv/​recorded/​23847650

Kokoro Connect Radio Episodes #1-5: http://www49.atwiki.jp/​kokoro-​ijimect/​pages/​83.​html

Imai Asami no Singer Song Gamer #170 (2012.07.20): https://www.youtube.com/​watch?​v=​2nmdPqGao68
(Parts of interest: http://www49.atwiki.jp/​kokoro-​ijimect/​pages/​35.​html)
He seems to imply that lots of companies (King Records, Enterbrain) are involved, and thus he had to go along with it and take the job of PR Head.

The only one I can't find anymore is Sugita Tomokazu's radio show "Sugita Tomokazu no Anigera! DeDoooon" #86 (2012.07.12) where Ichiki was the guest. Seems like all the episodes of that radio show have been deleted from Nico Nico.
The excerpt from the radio show is at the 7:00 mark: https://www.youtube.com/​watch?​v=​yh2_joRXGXc&​t

And an aside, a translation of Ichiki's tweets before and after the event when the prank took place:
http://www.otafez.com/​2012/​08/​30/​comments-​of-​zero-​no-​tsukaimas-​author-​on-​kokoro-​connect-​prank-​and-​some-​tweets-​from-​ichiki-​mitsuhiro/​

Links to Ichiki's Twitter for the tweets that are mentioned:
https://twitter.com/​mitsuhiroichiki/​status/​216573456735674368
https://twitter.com/​mitsuhiroichiki/​status/​216781233361911810
https://twitter.com/​mitsuhiroichiki/​status/​216784752835964929
https://twitter.com/​mitsuhiroichiki/​status/​216799004518920193
https://twitter.com/​mitsuhiroichiki/​status/​216799879350075392
https://twitter.com/​mitsuhiroichiki/​status/​216842818180755458
https://twitter.com/​mitsuhiroichiki/​status/​216871067032092673
https://twitter.com/​mitsuhiroichiki/​status/​216924120867278849
https://twitter.com/​mitsuhiroichiki/​status/​217063341435273216
https://twitter.com/​mitsuhiroichiki/​status/​217089662093758464
https://twitter.com/​mitsuhiroichiki/​status/​217289515193212930
https://twitter.com/​mitsuhiroichiki/​status/​217511342372962306

aereus wrote:
The comments on Yaraon are funny. Half the comment stream seems to be people making fun of Kikuchi's twitter saying "how lame" to the eufonius singer, etc.

aereus wrote:
Kikuchi deriding his own singer publicly around the same period which extends peoples negative view of him.

I think you made a mistake here. It wasn't riya that Kikuchi made the "how lame" comment to, but Momoi Halko.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:33 pm Reply with quote
So am I reading this correctly? They scrubbed the opening from the home version, because they don't like something one of the band members said? That is the most idiotic thing I've heard in a good while.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:33 am Reply with quote
Megiddo wrote:
Yep. Words from the individual himself. So many people swept away by the waves of idiocy that they never even bothered to hear from the most important person of all in this cacophonous event. Just leaves you speechless and without rebuttal, doesn't it? It's hard to counter the very words of the person who was allegedly mistreated without sounding like a lunatic with a tinfoil hat on.


When it comes to Japan and apologies (actually maybe Asia in general), "words from the individual himself" could also mean "statements that he was directed to say by higher ups". So you can't really say that these people sound like lunatics. The situation is a bit like when idols are caught with boyfriends or caught smoking and then 'graduate' so they are forced to 'apologize'.

This PR campaign was such a horrible idea from the start. I wonder if whoever approved it was fired.

And they scrubbed the opening not so much because the band member said something that they didn't like, but because it started a giant storm of stuff hitting the fan which led to massive boycotts and people generally just... hating the Kokoro Connect staff.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:00 am Reply with quote
zeopower6 wrote:
When it comes to Japan and apologies (actually maybe Asia in general), "words from the individual himself" could also mean "statements that he was directed to say by higher ups". So you can't really say that these people sound like lunatics. The situation is a bit like when idols are caught with boyfriends or caught smoking and then 'graduate' so they are forced to 'apologize'.


Exactly. Although there is some weight to the guy's statement, taking it a face value is kind of naive.
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