Forum - View topicManga to anime, the best and worst transitions?
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Animegomaniac
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I don't think it's fair to compare a manga that was adapted early in its run to one that's fully down concurrently to another that was done after the its completed.
Regardless of that, one of the worse adaptations was Shaft's TV version of Negima which they adapted a total of probably three out of 26 episodes. At that point when the manga had over a hundred chapters, there was really no excuse for not only veering off the plot but recreating characters and their personal relationships. It still was good, everything apart from plot, but it's Negima!? and not Negima! for a reason. Ok, it's probably Negima in any version. Every version counts from Xebec's horrible excuse of a show to the continuity lockout, randomly adapted episodes that Shaft later produced. And the "not canon but watch it anyway?" ending/movie? I wouldn't know... The best is Shaft's version of Pani Poni called Pani Poni Dash. In this one, they made a gag anime series out of a gag manga but as anyone who ever tried to read the original manga would agree, they didn't just adapt it, they improved it. They even fixed the character designs, making them more consistent and iconic. The gags and characters were there but it looked and flowed terribly. |
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Key
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In the context of ecchi content only I'll agree with you, as the actual nudity in the manga (which I read after seeing both anime series) was rather startling but not unwelcome. Otherwise, though, the anime followed the manga chapters it adapted fairly closely, aside from reordering some things, and did not lack one bit for character development or emotional appeal.
Varies depending on the scene. The bus scene in the first episode was vastly racier in the manga (where all of the female passengers ended up naked), but in most other scenes it was about the same. |
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rheiders
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For a good one...
This one isn't based off a manga, but now having read the novels the series is based on, I think the anime for Twelve Kingdoms actually improves on several aspects. The inclusion of Asano and Sugimoto as significant characters helps pull the story out of Youko's head, and Asano in particular gets a pretty interesting subplot in the third arc. The way they chose to represent the monkey with all those masks was interesting. I also thought some things like Youko's First Edict were foreshadowed better in the anime. For a bad one... There are worse, but I'll always be annoyed by the adaptation Fruits Basket got. This is the very definition of a bad adaptation to me because, while it's not a bad show, literally everything good about it came directly from the manga, and I didn't feel that anything they added was good. The result is a very ugly-looking show that replaces a lot of more serious foreshadow-y content with dumb, unfunny slapstick because the director himself reportedly didn't understand the source material, and while emotionally satisfying, ultimately isn't very meaningful. The ending succeeds in being very emotional, but doesn't make sense thematically or in a storytelling context. The manga, meanwhile, is my favorite for a reason. It's rare to come across a story so well-plotted, where every panel, every line of dialogue is so very deliberate and meaningful. I'm not one of those "the manga is better because it's longer" people either--I would count Ouran's anime as an improvement over the source because, while the manga is longer, the anime is more tonally consistent, better-looking, and funnier. I honestly think Fruba was a failed adaptation. |
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cheetahpretty
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Full Moon the anime also benefits from the fact that you can actually hear the music, as opposed to just reading the lyrics. |
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Key
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Wow, I have to fantastically disagree with you here. Granted, I never got past volume 3 of the manga, but that was because I was so disgusted by the crude artistry and lack of emotional resonance compared to the equivalent anime episodes (and keep in mind that I don't highly-regard the artistic merits of the anime version) that I felt it would be a waste of time and money to continue. |
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Maidenoftheredhand
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I disagree with both of you. I absolutely love the anime (in fact it was my first shoujo series). I thought it was a great adaption of the manga, despite some changes that were made. The ending did feel a bit rushed but surprisingly it was actually somewhat close to how they dealt with the same issue in the manga. However I also do love the manga and I am happy I got to see the real end of the story. My one complaint about the manga was one too many romantic pairings. I liked that the anime was more focused on friendship. That being said I did love the development of spoiler[Tohru and Kyo's relationship] in the manga. Still one of my favorite anime/manga pairings. |
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Agent355
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I like both FMA 2003 and FMA: Brotherhood, but I think I like 2003 a bit better, and it's nice to see that some people share that opinion (I was under the impression that preference was in the minority.)
I wouldn't say the difference is Roy Mustang. as far as I'm concerned he was the same in both series in that spoiler[he participated in genocide against Ishvalans]. The addition of spoiler[killing Winry's parents] in the 2003 series added a bit of drama, but mostly the angsty, extraneous type. The Homunculi, however, are a game changer. In the 2003 series, they are literally the incarnation of various characters' grief and desperation, come back to haunt them. That added a lot of pathos to the story. One of the most emotionally compelling moments in the 2003 series for me was spoiler[Ed having to fight-and destroy-Sloth, his mother reborn from his sin]. The connection between Envy and Ed was literally and figuratively fleshed out, and Envy became the sympathetic character he could never be in the Brotherhood/manga version (which just left me scratching my head wondering why they just didn't spoiler[kill him already. Was keeping him alive and dangerous really supposed to show the humanity and growth of the heroes, or their naivety? ]) There are other small details that make me remember FMA fondly, like Sheska's role. I'm even in the minority of people that loved the twist at the end of the series (and the movie!) spoiler[ that the Gate led to "Our" world--although, I could have done without everyone in Amestris having a "regular Earth" equivalent, and even less when they had to share head space.] On balance they're both very good series and each one has qualities the other lacks. Also, I gotta post a disclaimer that FMA 2003 was the first anime series I really got into and made me into a full-fledged fan! 
A very detailed example of an adaptation improving upon source material is Ouran's Alice in Wonderland episode. In the manga, it's just a silly dream sequence chapter. In the anime, they gave it a theme and emotional resonance by tying it to spoiler[Haruhi's feelings about her late mother]. It's my favorite ep of Ouran. |
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Chiibi
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I can't believe I forgot about Ouran! Yes, I would take the anime over the manga any day. Now make a *GD* second season, Bones! 
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yotsubafanfan
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His and Her Circumstances: is a good example, the Manga lasted a billion times longer than the anime and they took it seriously in the Manga while in the anime they were too busy arguing whether to make it a Comedy or a Drama or making constant recap episodes (If Only Clannad existed back then, they could have seriously have given the writers a pointer or two on how to balance out the Comedy with the Romance and the Drama.)
Ouran High School Host Club: They took out at least half the chapters in each book and it ended way to abruptly, we never got to learn anything about the back stories of the characters (Maybe except for Hunny's and The Twins but they were mainly side characters and we didn't get to see spoiler[Mori's younger brother and Misuzu's daughter who would become a big cameo character in later chapters] but I can't be too harsh on this anime, especially since it was one of the first anime I've ever saw. Now for the one's with better anime adaptations!! Happy Lesson: Thank God for the anime, the manga, flat out horrible!!! No character development at all, I got confused and had to go to the list of characters every five minutes because there were two totally different characters that look so much alike it confused me, and it was nothing but a borderline Porno! (And the cover makes it look like one too!) As in for the anime, It's way better, we get to learn more about the characters, more characters were added, and much more creative comedy sequences were added spoiler[ I mean that one episode when Chitose had to decide between staying with his "Mama Teachers" or his Sisters was hilarious! They made it into a full out competition for who's going to keep him resulting in all sorts of madness, it's just too funny to describe!] oh and did I forget to mention they don't even have the same main character, yeah and guess what, he's super bland and he's got no personality. All in all, I would love to buy the anime series, but instead I've got a copy of one of the worst manga of all time sitting under my shelf waiting for me to sell on Ebay (That's if it ever becomes worth anything because it's crap to me!) Now enough with the bad, let's switch to the good ones. Hetalia Axis Powers: God Bless the anime adaptation, while the manga is ok, it's just not as funny, and it's even better when you watch it in English, you get the accents and Pop Culture references as well as the education. It's one of the most memorable and beloved animes for that reason, because it took what it had in the manga and made it into a masterpiece worth watching. Lucky Star: The Manga is ok, but they went way out of control, (Adding friends of the minor characters friends and add them as if they were main characters, no seriously, you know that one teacher with the blond hair and glasses who has like 7 lines I the final episode of the anime, they make her seem as if she were a main character. How messed up is that!) But the anime improved it a lot, while I was reading the manga, I just got frustrated thinking things like spoiler[Why are they back in their High School Uniforms? Didn't they just graduate like a few panels ago?] and spoiler[ Wait, Patty has been in the book since book two or three and was saying how she wants a maid for her apartment, and then all of a sudden they make her seem like she's not been there that entire time and make her a foreign exchange student at Konata's house?!] It's stuff like that that frustrates me when I read the manga (It helps calm your nerves my foot!) . As in for the anime I can relax and enjoy it, they have a set cast of characters that we get to know through out the series instead of throwing in new characters each book and once they say something or do something they go through with it instead of changing their minds. Thank you God for the Lucky Star Anime, if it weren't for that then the only thing to remember the name by is it's horrible manga.
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BesuDesu
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MANY people will hear this from me, and I'm sure from many other fans, but I think that Fruits Basket had the most... Unfortunate transition. Yes, Daichi is a talented director, but because of the unfortunate circumstances that came on to Takaya's hand, combined with studio crap and deadlines, the show didn't nearly reach it's full potential. And that makes me sad :[
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Wrathful
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Good adaptation: Welcome to the NHK
I don't care if I'm the minority but I loved the ending more than the manga. The content for both of them is really good but its emotional context is multiplied by the performances of VO. It's one of rare case where both original and dub are stellar. Animation quality is great for this kind of anime. This is one of the anime that needs to be watched by anyone. Bad: Gantz I hate the anime adaptation for Gantz, too short to cover the at least more awesome part of manga but it introduced 2 new characters that only dragged the anime down. Animation must be top notch for this manga, but the production was mediocre. Did not love the character design either. |
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Agent355
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I think Welcome to the N.H.K. was adapted from the original novel, and the manga was a different adaptation of the novel. I haven't watched it yet, so I don't know how it compares to the novel
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Ambehr79
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Limited watching/reading anime/manga, but --
Recently got into Sabagebu [aka Girl's Survival Club] -- the first 5-6 episodes of anime are definitely better than the manga. Just in terms of transitioning smoothly [explanations spoiler[about Miou truly being older than she lets on, and even the main character's personality when it comes down to it]] and when it comes to backgrounds. The anime is much each to follow than the manga [perhaps it was the quality of the translating manga scans?]. Aaaand, Bakuretsu Tenshi [aka Angel Burst] -- the manga was so short!! But it was AWESOME. The anime -- ehhhh, personally, to me it was too-drawn out with too-smooth computer effects when it came to the robot, putting more importance on the robot than there really was. I mean, the anime even introduced more plot than the manga even had!! Sasameki Koto!!!! Need I even mention it only had ONE SEASON?! But that season friggin' blew. Me. Away. It was pretty damned good [it was different, let's just say that. Almost felt like it had a 'reverse let's-get-the-sad-stuff-over-and-hit-the-happiness!! feel]. BUT!! The manga? Duuuuude. 50 times longer -- and it gets even better. I just wanted a second season for it. >w< |
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