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Gina Szanboti



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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 12:45 am Reply with quote
Haven't bailed yet, although the OP and the eyecatches nearly send me packing each week.

So...Nosebleed (I don't know his name) and Mikatan were spoiler[lab rats] in their younger days? Clearly she was (I recognized her from her eyelashes), but only the fact that he spoiler[recognized her song makes me think the boy was him.] Even if I got that right, I'm not sure what to make of it yet.

Odd that this week's episode of Houkago no Pleiades also mentioned Gliese.
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DuskyPredator



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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 8:23 am Reply with quote
Episode 4

What is with the plot in this series? It is constantly going up and down like a seesaw, constantly adding in strange new plot points and themes. To an extent it feels random, but it actually feels like it is filing everything and that there is substance, but evolves at a very quick pace. I can barely tell what type of show it is.

All I can say is that I have no interest in the whole panties thing, but I think the series name, Punch Line, is meant to sound like "panty line". Actually I might try to look for another reasoning for the title. A punch line is supposed to be the twist at the end of a joke that makes it funny, something I did not actually think about the name of this series until a short while ago. Punch Line is constantly throwing in new twists make you look at events a little differently, we thought the strange twists from the beginning were enough, but it just keeps going. Although I would say that there is a problem that it really is not that funny.

Although I say that the episodes do tend to get a laugh out of me. It is that cat, he is both incredibly juvenile that he is kind of annoying, but there is actually some really good parts like I laugh every time spoiler[he turns on his computer for some sort of porn]. I feel like it works more as rather than trying beg attention for ecchi stuff, it is actually kind of making fun of it. Another aspect I liked about this episode was actually how spoiler[the friendship between the girls fell apart as they fought].
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Philmister978



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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 1:26 pm Reply with quote
DuskyPredator wrote:
Episode 4

What is with the plot in this series? It is constantly going up and down like a seesaw, constantly adding in strange new plot points and themes. To an extent it feels random, but it actually feels like it is filing everything and that there is substance, but evolves at a very quick pace. I can barely tell what type of show it is.


At this point, I'm just assuming the writers are just coming up with things they think would work and try to shoehorn it in. Somehow.
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Yttrbio



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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 1:47 pm Reply with quote
I guess it's trying to present things that will all come together in some kind of "whoa" moment, but the show hasn't done anything to make me actually care about how it comes together in the end.
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ThatGuyWhoLikesThings



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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 2:31 pm Reply with quote
Philmister978 wrote:
DuskyPredator wrote:
Episode 4

What is with the plot in this series? It is constantly going up and down like a seesaw, constantly adding in strange new plot points and themes. To an extent it feels random, but it actually feels like it is filing everything and that there is substance, but evolves at a very quick pace. I can barely tell what type of show it is.


At this point, I'm just assuming the writers are just coming up with things they think would work and try to shoehorn it in. Somehow.


Nah, the writer knows what he's doing.

Two short and specific scenes (they happen almost back-to-back too) in the first episode are coming to mind right now, and yeah, he's almost certainly got the scenario all figured out already.

I wish I could screencap so I could show you what those scenes actually are, but unfortunately that's not really possible for me right now.

However, while I'm convinced the writer has everything planned out in advance, whether the narrative will actually turn out good is another story entirely. I'll remain optimistic though.
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meiam



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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 11:02 pm Reply with quote
So the show is still somewhat entertaining, but the low are pretty low and the high aren't really all that high. It really feel like it's mostly just held up by it's production value at this point, and if you transferred those to 90%+ of anime with a small budget out there you'd get something better. The writing is not particularly clever, and even if there's some big twist that arrive eventually it'll feel too late since with all the new info every week I'd probably miss it just because I forget most of what's revealed. I like show that set up stuff way in advance, but most of it just isn't interesting enough to make me remember it, like I barely remember that list of name (didn't remember that Ito name was on it) and I don't even remember how he saw it in the first place.

Kinda feel like the editor is not doing his job properly.

Yeah I'm pretty sure "punch line" is meant to be heard as "panty line" or something like this, that's pretty much all the OP says. You know for all it's focus on panty, there's a surprisingly low amount of them. Feel like half way trough production they decided to switch from being a fan service show to a serious one but didn't bother to go back, so you get this weird half way product.
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Stark700



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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 2:44 pm Reply with quote
Episode 5:

This episode reminded me a little of spoiler[Steins;Gate because of the time travel and cell phone stuff. I feel bad for Ito and her past though especially when she was bullied by those girls...]

I think a spoiler[highlight of this episode is basically how her friends are trying to prevent the tragedy that unfolds especially Yuuta. The episode still had some comedy bits but it's getting slightly dark here and there now.]
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DuskyPredator



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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 11:41 pm Reply with quote
Episode 5

Ito's past indeed looked quite spoiler[sad with bullying], and that it somehow spoiler[got people killed] is troubling.

With the end I do have assumptions that spoiler[an android might not die from that]. And oddly the spoiler[turtle guy] is more interested in spoiler[killing Ito than they are getting the bear]. I will throw in my guess that we will get some crazy twist like the spoiler[guy is her teacher] or something.
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meiam



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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:46 pm Reply with quote
DuskyPredator wrote:
Episode 5

I will throw in my guess that we will get some crazy twist like the spoiler[guy is her teacher] or something.


It has to be, there's no other choice (well maybe the the third girl from the facility). We're too far in for them to fully introduce a new character, and the fact that he's masked means there hiding his identity, which would make no sense if he wasn't know by some of the character.
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Gina Szanboti



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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 12:45 am Reply with quote
Um, if you're there to commit robbery or murder, a mask is a good idea even if you don't know the people you've come to rob or murder. Unless you make sure no one sees you or survives to describe you.

Episode 5 was pretty good. I wish they were all so restrained with their fan-service.
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 2:25 pm Reply with quote
Episode 6:

Now this really reminds me of spoiler[S;G now with the saving the future and humanity concept. Also, we learn that...Yuta is possessed by his future self. That kinda explains some of his role already in the latest episodes.]

Decent buildup overall with the revelations. I'm honestly kinda excited to see how far this series will go with this.
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DuskyPredator



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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 10:35 am Reply with quote
Episode 6

Holy plot twist, Batman. The major one is that Yuta is spoiler[being possessed by himself from the future]. There was also the easier one which I spoiler[saw coming that turtle guy was the homeroom teacher, which felt pretty sick that he let himself be possessed for Ito].

But there was another one which I totally did not see coming, which is kind of shocking, Yutaspoiler[ is biologically a girl, who's legal name is "Yu"]. Meika spoiler[puts it out that Yuta is at a difficult age which we might just say reverse trap], but I think evidence actually points that spoiler[he is transgender, despite biology he identifies as a male, and has an attraction to females]. If so, it may be far smarter and interesting than I expected, if they treated right it may totally change how I think of the character. Especially if they spoiler[let him keep identifying as the gender he is comfortable with].

Also have to say that the exposition with Meika and the music was well done. A bit late but I am actually interested in this series now. But one thing I wonder is how the cat spirit fits in, I am somewhat expecting spoiler[him to be the villain].
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Stark700



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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 2:04 pm Reply with quote
Episode 7:

Good amount of developing events for Yuuta this episode. This isn't surprising with the foreshadowing but I'm glad it was confirmed by the cat in the second half of the episode and by that flashback:


And heh, that costume looks pretty damn familiar at the end there. Excited for next episode!
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DuskyPredator



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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 5:21 am Reply with quote
A little annoyed for getting excited that he spoiler[may have been transgender], but I guess it might still count depend on how you consider it as he is spoiler[a literal guy in a girl's body]. This does mean that the body he is using is Mikatan's original body. And if I remember properly, wasn't there a hint that the spoiler["bad guy" in episode 1 was could be the last piece], so it is spoiler[Guriko in his original body].
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meiam



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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 9:43 pm Reply with quote
Fell behind on this one and just caught up. Lots of development in the last two episode, but not enough imo. A huge problem is that they never bother to explain how there going to stop the asteroid and why they need everyone to "develop there bond" for it to happen. Previous time they tried that it turned into a huge failure, wouldn't the obvious step be to gather everyone and tell them everything? Surely the fact the world is about to be destroy would motivate them, and it'd be easy to convince them since he knew a bunch of stuff he's not supposed to. I'm guessing it'll probably end with them "strengthening there bond" and then some magical mumbo jumbo will happen and everything will work out by miracle. And why doesn't the cat just tell the spirit him everything anyway? Me think there trying to make him into a Kyubey or something since his action seems to go against stoping the meteor.

So now the next few episode will just be him repeating the event of the last episode from a different point of view...
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