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Stark700



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:06 am Reply with quote
Episode 4:

Really enjoyed this week's episode.

It got much more serious with the aircraft trouble in the air and shows the dangers of police work. In the meantime, I think something big might develop soon with these thrilling cases. But still, this has been my favorite episode so far.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:08 am Reply with quote
I remember from my law class that a police officer cannot accept rewards for acts that are part of their duty/job, so him turning down something even as small as candy could be the right thing.

Still confused why they could not reveal that there was a bomb after it was disposed. Or if they did they did not make it obvious. And who was it that chose that their team would dispose the bomb? Do they not have bomb disposal units that might have more specialised equipment? Were they relying that the team has on person who is an expert, who so happened to be out getting a sandwich at the time of the emergency call?

Also, why did I keep seeing subs of "USDF", I know one character keeps saying English words, but shouldn't they be the JSDF?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:25 am Reply with quote
Would someone tell me why they couldn't just throw the bomb out of the plane? From what I can tell, it wasn't connected to anything.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:39 am Reply with quote
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Probably to prevent widespread panic. The last thing you want in situations like that on a plane is for the passengers to panic and start running around. Even when I took flights on vacation, the pilots rarely described the issues and only called it "turbulence" or problems from the towers. As for why details were not revealed afterwards, with a prominent politician present, this would probably mean doom for the airline. Just look at the ratings Malaysia received after the incident with MH370 and the other plane that got shot down in Ukraine.

@V1cious

I assume that the plane was still over civilian airspace since it was making circular rounds (according to the radar or w/e) to remain in flight until the bomb was removed entirely. There's also a chance of the bomb's explosion potentially harming the engine (even worse if sucked into it) or wings.

As for my thoughts on the episode, I like how it took a break from the usual suited villain of the week format and focused a bit more on Mythos actions. I'm still not clear about his motives but they're setting him up to be a threat to the safety of the people. Whatever he was searching for, I bet it has something to do with the new suit we saw. However, I'm kind of growing tired of the running gag of people viewing Unit 8 as useless. Though the scene with the young boy giving candy to one of the guys help alleviated my annoyance with the politician's perception.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:49 am Reply with quote
EmbraceMe wrote:
@DuskyPredator

Probably to prevent widespread panic. The last thing you want in situations like that on a plane is for the passengers to panic and start running around. Even when I took flights on vacation, the pilots rarely described the issues and only called it "turbulence" or problems from the towers. As for why details were not revealed afterwards, with a prominent politician present, this would probably mean doom for the airline. Just look at the ratings Malaysia received after the incident with MH370 and the other plane that got shot down in Ukraine.

Well that is stupid, the government has no obligation to cover for an airline that a bomb had been placed on an airline plane. And the ability to defuse the situation would be in the credit of the government's act to respond to a terrorist attack. At the very least that politician should be able to find out.

If the bad guys wanted panic, why did they not leak information about the bomb to the public? I actually don't understand how the bad guys got what they wanted. The government pretty much acted to keep things safe.
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jroa



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:20 am Reply with quote
DuskyPredator wrote:
Well that is stupid, the government has no obligation to cover for an airline that a bomb had been placed on an airline plane. And the ability to defuse the situation would be in the credit of the government's act to respond to a terrorist attack. At the very least that politician should be able to find out.

If the bad guys wanted panic, why did they not leak information about the bomb to the public? I actually don't understand how the bad guys got what they wanted. The government pretty much acted to keep things safe.


For the first issue, I think the most likely reason is far more simple than that. The government must have already come up with an official cover story for the incident. They aren't suddenly going to throw it all away and make people ask more questions.

As for why did Unit 8 get involved? The implication seemed to be that the government cared more about secrecy and plausible deniability than anything else. If something went wrong, then it's Unit 8's fault. It would make the police look bad, but not necessarily the politicians.

Getting an official explosive disposal team would have been safer, in theory, but the show did give us some information about why it didn't happen. It would have required authorizing an evacuation of the area around the possible crash site, which is presumably the proper procedure. But they didn't want to do that, because it would expose their super secret system to an attack. Also, I wonder if any of the regular explosive disposal teams are capable of using Willwear suits in flight? Maybe, but maybe not.

Based on what we know so far, the villains didn't seem to be interested in merely causing fear to spread among the population either. The point was to cause the government to panic and, somewhere along the line, apparently expose the location of the other parts for this "Orochi" intelligence system or whatever that is supposed to be. They didn't attack the system directly, which is what the government wrongly feared, but just picked up more clues and hints about it.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:58 am Reply with quote
Episode 5:

Well this was rather odd. Rather than fighting crime with the usual means with mecha suits, we got some gambling battles instead. Not sure how I feel about that but it's definitely unorthodox. And Madoka is really a prodigy at that....especially when it comes to gambling with the mask on.

The cosplay cat stuff was priceless.
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DuskyPredator



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:57 pm Reply with quote
Episode 5

Well that was stupid. Maybe it would have been less so if the show stopped pretending that it knows how Poker is played, as according to the show the best players can get super hands each time. Bluffing was done only in a very shallow way, it just did not sell the game being played. A character even set up to maybe explain the rules, but it was just waved away. Did we even see character trade cards in, or was the only way we knew they were good is because they got good hands?

Was the episode supposed to tell us about the female teammate Madoka? Because it did a piss poor job at it, I did not even remember her as a part of the team, and there was little work done to sympathise with her character in the episode. And talk about horrible info-dumping that was in no way subtle. And the perspective seemed more on the old guy, did we actually see anything about her motivations except for the one flashback given little context at the beginning?
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FenixFiesta



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:47 am Reply with quote
Ep 05
"Why is this the weakest episode (so far)"
It is pretty obvious when we look at this ep is focusing on in the quiet Madoka and old man Yasuharu, of the protagonist group they are as background as it possibly gets the other failing is that we are informed of Madoka's siblings in the past tense and never shown of them in the present at least for the episode is concerned.

The other issue is that if they lesson is supposed to be about being able to "go back to your normal life" the audience certainly isn't presented enough about Madoka to understand WHAT is her normal life outside of work and "play".
The other side of the coin is Yasuharu, we are informed he used to be a more regular cop but by the closing of the episode nothing really is expounded upon.

The episode fails as its supposed quasi lesson of "a true gamer(?) can always return to there normal life" and it just barely passes the quota of establishing the ongoing antagonist is still up to his tricks.

There should be a better episode here even with the set up, hopefully this is simply a minor miss step.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:59 am Reply with quote
Episode 6:

Ah, an episode about robots. For some reason, I got some nostalgic vibes from the episode. As silly some parts were, the episode does appeal to the technological aspects of the show quite well in ways.

Looks like Kazari learned quite a bit too.

I wonder if we will see more robots later on...
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FenixFiesta



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:39 pm Reply with quote
Ep 06

That was an amazing amount of "this is anime" episode.
While the series over arcing plot didn't seem to advance noticeably, there are subtle hints about the origin of our "police train".

Overall a return to pace from ep 05 miss step.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:52 am Reply with quote
I am sticking with my usual response of not being very impressed and finding faults. Are we really meant to believe that they managed to line up all those old scientists and fix it in what I will guess was 30 minutes? It is about a ridiculous as the Battleship movie. They pretty much kidnapped an Alzheimer's patient with the expectation he could fix the robot, they said he has good and bad days, and clearly he was not having a good day. If a police officer has to do a huge amount of paperwork each time they pull out their gun, I wonder what he is going to go through in covering piloting a giant robot.

Also noticed that the sleep device apparently got civilians too, all of them seemed to have fallen asleep exactly at the time they are in the middle of crossing the road. But it brings up the thought of where are the cars? Could the sleep device have called a car accident? Could a moving car then accidentally run over people lying in the middle of the road? Should the police maybe have thought that was something they should tackle quickly?

I can see that it might have had a certain level of nostalgia in the episode, but it really did not appeal to me too much. Similarly I think the series has been doing it all along with the mecha suits, and that too has not been something that interests me.

Also, why was it necessary that the museum exhibit have the Gatling gun loaded?
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Stark700



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:52 am Reply with quote
Episode 7:

I gotta give Haruka some credit for trying this episode even though it's taking a toll on her personally as well. The whole thing involving Kobari just got complicated with his destruction; out of his control anyways.

Yeah, not every case has a happy ending by the looks of it and this episode seems to be one of those. Too bad. RIP.
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DuskyPredator



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 7:40 am Reply with quote
So why didn't the train tracks get affected by the shield thing? Why didn't he just walk on the rocks for a bit when they started electrocuting the tracks? In what world would a governor think that it would be okay for them to decide that they should be the one to personally act and use a privately created weapon in a public area? Why was it only one special police force that informed him on this rather than any law enforcer? What did trains even have to do with the plot?

And why would saying that both him and his daughter should "continue on the tracks of life" mean that he has to stop the goal of just going to the office? Actually, why did he even have to make a spectacle of destroying things in the way? Surely he could have just walked there not causing any damage and no one would be after him, although I guess that could have been what he was asked to do. Still it gave me a feeling that things really did not make much sense.
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jroa



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:45 am Reply with quote
DuskyPredator:

The force field was based on an EM pulse of some kind, which would definitely affect power suits and other technological equipment, but there's no reason why it should have any special effect on the train tracks in particular.

The governor of the prefecture, like many political figures in both anime and real life, was simply engaging in exaggerated grandstanding. The show merely played that up for comedic effect. From Dirty Pair to Patlabor, such situations are not uncommon.

Haruka and Kobari shared an unusual yet sincere personal interest in trains. I believe this was made extremely clear by the episode.

What do you think usually happens to any criminals who do not stop when asked to do so by law enforcement officers? Either Unit 8, the military or some other security organization would be forced to attack and/or arrest him using other methods.

Such as launching that special rocket against his power suit. Despite the governor's very public boasting, even the "boss" could tell it wouldn't leave Kobari unharmed. And well, being hurt or ending up in jail would most certainly separate him even more from his daughter and his implied dream of visiting train hotspots with her would be impossible.

It was suggested that "just walking there" is exactly what he started doing in the first place. The blue EM field was actively removing all obstacles in his path and causing damage, but that is apparently what LOGOS wanted.

Most of the other questions, by and large, come across as fairly harsh. They continue to strike me as either unnecessarily cynical or otherwise trying to directly struggle against the nature of the series itself. Say, after reading your criticisms about episode 6, I can only conclude any fan of old-school giant robot shows would shrug at them. I imagine plenty of Tokusatsu folks would have a similar reaction to several of your other remarks.

Incidentally, the past three episodes have involved various Tokusatsu scriptwriters: Toshiki Inoue (5), Kenichi Araki (6) and Daisuke Ishibashi (7) , in addition to the already known participation of Naruhisai Arakawa (1-4). as the main writer. If that's not Active Raid making its tastes and sensibilities clear, then I don't know what it is.


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