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Rukiia



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:19 am Reply with quote
I was wondering if there could be an easier way to make note of titles that had their license expire either for home release or streaming instead of reporting them. I believe it would be useful for new or old fans who are unaware of what is currently out of print/no longer available on streaming sites. It would be easier than looking at the encyclopedia page's English companies list where a company like Funimation is credited, going to the site where the title is in hopes of watching/buying it, and then finding out that the company no longer has it.

Here is an example of what I am referring to:

Quote:
Yumeiro Pâtissière (TV)

Internet Streaming:
Crunchyroll (expired)


What do you think?
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Dessa



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:26 am Reply with quote
I like the idea of using that as a precision, but wouldn't it have to replace the existing entry, not just add on?
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bglassbrook



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:46 pm Reply with quote
In the US, it would generally just be adding, so not a problem (automatically replaces the precision-less entry.) Foreign territories should already have a precision, and some people have added the starting year of a license period, so they would still need to be reported.
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Dan42
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:47 am Reply with quote
bglassbrook wrote:
In the US, it would generally just be adding, so not a problem (automatically replaces the precision-less entry.) Foreign territories should already have a precision, and some people have added the starting year of a license period, so they would still need to be reported.

No, even if a credit has a precision, you can still add other identical credits with different precisions, and they are all displayed as one credit with merged precisions.
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Rukiia



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:45 pm Reply with quote
Dan42 wrote:
bglassbrook wrote:
In the US, it would generally just be adding, so not a problem (automatically replaces the precision-less entry.) Foreign territories should already have a precision, and some people have added the starting year of a license period, so they would still need to be reported.

No, even if a credit has a precision, you can still add other identical credits with different precisions, and they are all displayed as one credit with merged precisions.

Really? When I tried doing that before turning to making a forum post about it I was getting an error about adding duplicates. I'd be more than happy to add precisions for licenses/streams expiring yet it won't let me. Sad
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Dan42
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:14 am Reply with quote
There's a warning, but you can still click "Add anyway"
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Rukiia



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:57 am Reply with quote
Ok, I did exactly what you said but now "Internet Streaming" gets posted twice when you look through the list of the company that it is credited under.

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Shiroi Hane
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:14 am Reply with quote
That's because you posted it and need to be able to edit it. If you log out (or use incognito mode or another browser) and take a look, it will be different.
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Dessa



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:47 am Reply with quote
I just took a look, and I see both entries as well.
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Rukiia



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:51 pm Reply with quote
Dessa wrote:
I just took a look, and I see both entries as well.

Same here. I would still see them even when I am logged out.

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bglassbrook



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:24 am Reply with quote
That must be a quirk of the company page (or of when the formatting gets reversed like that.) The credit is folding-up correctly when viewed from the series' pages.
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BigOnAnime
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 2:18 am Reply with quote
Rukiia wrote:
Dessa wrote:
I just took a look, and I see both entries as well.

Same here. I would still see them even when I am logged out.

To bump this, I see this as well. BTW, something I'd like to suggest similar to the original suggestion is being able to add sources to entries without having to report the entry. Something I've been noticing with plenty of older entries, like the 2000's is the person who entered them in did so without a source. For example on Najica Blitz Tactics, scroll down to Japanese Companies, and then Production, and note how they left ZERO sources, not a single one. Some sources that could have been used:
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ナジカ電撃作戦#.E3.82.B9.E3.82.BF.E3.83.83.E3.83.95
Opening credits of the ADV DVD's (They spelled Columbia wrong)
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Dan42
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:39 pm Reply with quote
Ok, I finally fixed this.
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BigOnAnime
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:55 am Reply with quote
Thanks for doing that, I've now started to add the "Expired" precision to various shows that X company no longer has the license to. Definitely a useful feature I'm going to take plenty of advantage of.

Question, how should I handle license rescue situations? Here's how I handled say 009-1.
Quote:
Licensed by:
ADV Films (2007-2008; Expired)
FUNimation Entertainment (2008; Expired)
I've seen before though "Previous Licenser", that's what the precision someone put for ADV Films and DiC Entertainment on Sailor Moon.

Also, any idea what went wrong here when trying to add the "Expire" precision for Bandai Entertainment on Code Geass? This is the only time I've come across this error so far, not sure if it affects other entries with Bandai Entertainment marked as the licensor.
http://i.imgur.com/NwG5eM0.png
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Shiroi Hane
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:12 pm Reply with quote
I'n not sure what happened there; there are two Licensed By entries and I set one to False myself, but it shouldn't be possible to have two of the same without a precision so I'm thinking something has been merged.

Aha, Archive.org to the rescue; someone had entered "Licensed by: Bandai Books" with reference to a dead TRSI link, presumably for one of the related manga.
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