Forum - View topic
Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid (TV).


Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Anime News Network Forum Index -> General -> Series Discussion
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Blood-
It...it's not like I post for you or anything!It...it's not like I post for you or anything!


Joined: 07 Mar 2009
Posts: 19082
Location: Toronto, Canada
PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:02 pm Reply with quote
My own intepretation is that Kobayashi is not a lesbian. She seems pretty asexual to me. I wouldn't take anything she says in one of her drunken stupors seriously.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message My Anime My Manga
#Verso.Sciolto



Joined: 17 Feb 2017
Posts: 48
PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 3:02 am Reply with quote
"In Vino Veritas"

... or for a more sober avenue for re-evaluation:
"Boston Marriages: Romantic but Asexual Relationships among Contemporary Lesbians" - Esther D. Rothblum, Kathleen A. Brehony (Editors)

The text can be searched online, via Google Books, but doing so yielded no results for dragon(s).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Blood-
It...it's not like I post for you or anything!It...it's not like I post for you or anything!


Joined: 07 Mar 2009
Posts: 19082
Location: Toronto, Canada
PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:42 pm Reply with quote
Episode 13

That was not a fun watch for me. I totally get what they were going for, but it's a little late in the game when you've had 12 straight episodes of mostly light-hearted, cute fun to suddenly wheel out the srs bizness. Obviously, I'm happy that Kobayashi, Tohru and Kanna get to stay together (for the moment) and that Kobayashi has progressed so far she's actually taking them to meet her family, but it didn't erase the heaviness of the rest of the episode.

Plus, Tohru's father brought up a very good point: her presence and the presence of the other dragons might inspire other dragons to do the same, but with much harsher consequences for humanity. Really, it's a concept I don't need to be thinking about in what is a cute, funny, heart-warming show.

If they wanted to dabble with a problem between Tohru and Kobayoshi, they could have explored the ramifications of Tohru realizing her lifespan is a lot greater than Kobayoshi's. That would have been at least been an issue that arises organically from their relationship as opposed to an external factor like a hardass father (who actually has a valid argument).

Oh well, even though I'm not a fan of the finale, I still have to rate this show Excellent, of course.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message My Anime My Manga
DuskyPredator
It...it's not like I post for you or anything!It...it's not like I post for you or anything!


Joined: 10 Mar 2009
Posts: 12035
Location: Brisbane, Australia
PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:20 am Reply with quote
(finale)

Well the emotional impact of the episode hit me more, and that if there was any more reason to show the importance of the relationship, then it was to show life without it. That Kobayashi could in a sense live without Tohru, her life would be a bit of a mess and Kanna might not get everything she needs for a family, but it would still go on. But right from seeing what Tohru really wants, it was enough to have Kobayashi speak up for her even when her own fragility was so on display, that standing up for her family was worth more than the risk. Of course there were all good points, that her father was not straight up wrong on his points, but feelings matter.

It was the end of character development that the tempered hate of humans on Tohru's part was pushed to a sort of pity, that she was faced to the prospect hurting herself in the long term, but grabbing the now and making that worth the while was important. Kobayashi was now taking her family to her parents, which would clearly create all sorts of confusion, that she has paired up with a woman and there is a kid, and I can see that Kobayashi will be entirely honest, that she does not feel like it is something to be embarrassed about, that it is not worth much or getting in the way of something "normal". The expectation would be that Kobayashi's parents would want her to find some guy and have a normal relationship to make a normal family and get grandkids for them. But if Tohru could stand so strongly up to her father, then Kobayashi can face her own, and if her parents really care about her they should not devolve into utter conflict. Even behind Tohru's father's words, it was clear that he cared about her, and that in the end he could give some faith for her decisions.

It is not like it is a straight up story of a lesbian relationship, where parents would disapprove and the like, Tohru and Kobayashi's relationship is not quite like that. But there are kernels that connect it, and that in ways, and that there are other things that could be taken. Like the sex part is removed for instead being a human and a dragon, and other parts should not be pulled down. I liked the dynamic, it was fun and I do think it made me believe that this was a family unit that cared about each other.

Not sure how to transition, but Kanna has to specifically be brought up. I first thought she would be kind of intrusive, forcing her way into the story and relationship, but the little Blue Eyed White Dragon was really pretty adorable, that she felt like she went at her own pace that she was not some cookie cutter character, and only ended up adding to the relationship. And the other characters too like Fafnir, Saikawa, and others, I think even Lucoa was even having a part when taken in the light that she is just being herself, and if her giving into demands to change her clothes would make people happy.

In general I think that this show has been proof that a good execution can really save something, something people would scoff at by being the lowest type of show, but actually be really charming, with plusses in things like animation without really going for what the big shows general try. Easy attribute for anime would be Kyoto Animation, which has shown before that they can do really well with these type of series that are just kind of calming, and yet a little crazy. I give it a rating of Excellent (9/10), in full it has really been consistent well made and enjoyable show, that has done more than I could have expected, and just one nice good complete package.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message My Anime My Manga
Stark700



Joined: 30 Jan 2012
Posts: 11112
Location: Earth
PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:41 am Reply with quote
Episode 13 (complete)

Final episode was pretty entertaining.

I must say, this was a very fun ride and they actually made this episode feel more thrilling with the conflict of supernatural forces and dragons. Kobayashi takes steps up her game big time to make her point. The dragon fight was dope. I love how Tooru defends Kobayashi in the end. A happy ending too!

Kobayashi and Tooru had one of the most charming character chemistry from this Winter season imo. Everything about them makes me want to see them more and more. Unfortunately, this is the finale. This was a very fun show imo from start to finish. Rating it as very good.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website My Anime My Manga
Beltane70



Joined: 07 May 2007
Posts: 1946
PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:25 pm Reply with quote
I hope that we will see a second season sometime in the future since the manga is still ongoing and there's a few storylines that weren't adapted into the show.

There's also a Kanna spinoff manga, so there's also a chance that we could see that animated as well.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message My Anime
DuskyPredator
It...it's not like I post for you or anything!It...it's not like I post for you or anything!


Joined: 10 Mar 2009
Posts: 12035
Location: Brisbane, Australia
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:59 am Reply with quote
OVA

Aw, Tohru's relationship levelled up. I did find it pretty funny how earlier in the episode Kobayashi spoiler[rightfully guessed that Tohru would try to pull something on Valentines day, made it clear that she would take it, but the damage to her trust] would not be something Tohru would like. And Tohru knew that it was not worth it.

But at the end, with something Kobayashi would be more comfortable with, even if we know it surprised her in they way she is not used to such attention. But she offered her hand to Tohru, that is a step. And maybe even something of showing being receptive.

Am always fond of the family and friends element of this show.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message My Anime My Manga
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Anime News Network Forum Index -> General -> Series Discussion All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Page 5 of 5

 


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group