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REVIEW: Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha DVD

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The series may begin as a jewel-gathering magical-girl romp, but before the end it delves into science-fiction, military adventure, mecha action, and ultimately dark drama.

In the context he's using he's classifying the show itself, and not the combat. It might just be poor wording on his part but it doesn't even come close to saying the battles are mecha styled.

That's really a description of the show genre and not of the fighting style.

Finally a good ANN's review, usually their reviews are lame.

Overall I believe we have a show that would probably have been rated higher, despite it's faults, had it not been moe.

But then again, when you bash the head in of a very popular show among a vocal minority, that's how you generate controversy, page impressions, and clicks without fear of backlash.

Come on, the music was generic, the OP, the BGM and the ED as well. That's why it gets a C.

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But then again, when you bash the head in of a very popular show among a vocal minority, that's how you generate controversy, page impressions, and clicks without fear of backlash.

Bingo.

grgspunk wrote:

Quote: But then again, when you bash the head in of a very popular show among a vocal minority, that's how you generate controversy, page impressions, and clicks without fear of backlash. Bingo.

I was JUST gonna say that this is most likely a cheap way to get more views.

Labbes wrote:

Come on, the music was generic, the OP, the BGM and the ED as well. That's why it gets a C.

He should've said that in the review so someone can quote it and saying he panned an Oricon-charting anime theme song as generic!

But he didn't say a bleep about the music at all. Ah well.

To assume that everyone who actually likes moe will jump for the show is a case of generalizing. There are plenty of people who have an interest in moe that have found certain moe shows to be disappointing and not worth their purchase. What, you think they don't have limited budgets or prefer to make informed decisions too? There could be such thing as a moe "fan" reviewer is capable of seeing what may or may not interest fans and non-fans alike: It's just a matter of deciding whether he's capable of writing a professional review and can look at a title with a more critical eye. However, if a reviewer doesn't have at least some sort of interest in what a title has to offer, then he's essentially wasting his time and risks writing off the genre it belongs to as a flaw in his review or make flaws sound like they're worse than they actually are.

Actually getting some good comments here. I would be curious to know, how exactly does the review system work? Are reviewers randomly assigned shows to review or do they have any say in what type of shows they review?

grgspunk wrote:

To assume that everyone who actually likes moe will jump for the show is a case of generalizing. There are plenty of people who have an interest in moe that have found certain moe shows to be disappointing and not worth their purchase. What, you think they don't have limited budgets or prefer to make informed decisions too? There could be such thing as a moe "fan" reviewer is capable of seeing what may or may not interest fans and non-fans alike: It's just a matter of deciding whether he's capable of writing a professional review and can look at a title with a more critical eye. However, if a reviewer doesn't have at least some sort of interest in what a title has to offer, then he's essentially wasting his time and risks writing off the genre it belongs to as a flaw in his review or make flaws sound like they're worse than they actually are.

The person I was responding to sounded like he assumed the show would've gotten a higher rating if the reviewer was a moe fan, so I was responding in kind. As far as I know, too, loli =\= moe, so I didn't even *know* this show was considered "moe" until people started complaining that the reviewer was biased because it was moe on the forums. If I didn't even realize reading the review that the show was moe, then how does it equal into a "this is moe so the show sucks" sort of review?

It's not that I think moe fans don't want to make informed choices, but how does this keep them from doing that? Can't they ask their other friends with similar tastes? Can't they look at the good things Carl said about the show and decide if they'd like it? I mean, you're all saying that people might decide to not try out this show because of this one review, but how would a moe fan come to that conclusion? Have you seen a single person post here saying they won't watch this show even though they like moe? No, the only ones that have said that are the ones that don't like moe and magical girl shows. So big deal. Even if Carl liked that sort of show, how would that convince those people to watch it?

ANN isn't the only review site out there. If someone wants a second opinion, they can go find it. They can even easily go to the anime form and make a topic about this anime asking people that like moe magical girl shows what they think.

I personally think that the idea that this site has an agenda because the reviewers don't have the same tastes as you as ridiculous. I've seen high ratings given to shows like Kanon and Air here on ANN. There's people like you that are registered to the forum that like moe--hopefully, I'm assuming, for doing more than just complaining every time a reviewer doesn't agree with your point of view. The idea that ANN is some massive conspiracy to undermine the shows you like is ridiculous. I don't think I've ever read a review, news article, or column on this site that has made me go "oh, ew, everything in this one genre must suck". In fact, it convinced me to put Kanon and Air on my "want to watch" list on anime-planet.

No, in fact, the only thing I've ever seen on this site that's made me not want to watch moe? The fans that come here in legions acting like they're some sort of oppressed minority on par with women not being allowed to vote. I've only seen maybe one or two short comments on why people should watch Nanoha. Most of you aren't doing that. Instead, you're wasting your energy saying "Carl should be fired" or "ANN has an agenda!" instead of saying WHY you like the show. So far, all I've gotten is that you don't think the whipping scene is fanservice. Okay, fine, that's a great, valid point. Anything else? Why do you like the show? It's moe? And...it has beams? Is that all?

You're not convincing people that the show is good, you're convincing people your section of the fandom is whiny and entitled. It's hurting, not helping. If you really feel that this show is this great, stand up and tell us why.

If he had said "The music is plain generic" I bet the same people would have complained about that being not precise enough.

I personally think that the idea that this site has an agenda because the reviewers don't have the same tastes as you as ridiculous. I've seen high ratings given to shows like Kanon and Air here on ANN. There's people like you that are registered to the forum that like moe--hopefully, I'm assuming, for doing more than just complaining every time a reviewer doesn't agree with your point of view. The idea that ANN is some massive conspiracy to undermine the shows you like is ridiculous. I don't think I've ever read a review, news article, or column on this site that has made me go "oh, ew, everything in this one genre must suck". In fact, it convinced me to put Kanon and Air on my "want to watch" list on anime-planet.

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I personally think that the idea that this site has an agenda because the reviewers don't have the same tastes as you as ridiculous. I've seen high ratings given to shows like Kanon and Air here on ANN. There's people like you that are registered to the forum that like moe--hopefully, I'm assuming, for doing more than just complaining every time a reviewer doesn't agree with your point of view. The idea that ANN is some massive conspiracy to undermine the shows you like is ridiculous. I don't think I've ever read a review, news article, or column on this site that has made me go "oh, ew, everything in this one genre must suck". In fact, it convinced me to put Kanon and Air on my "want to watch" list on anime-planet.

What, you think saying crap like "moe overkill" in Kanon's review isn't indicative of an inherent unfair bias for you?

The reason why it's good then is that it is like Sailor Moon, CCS, Dragonball Z, and Gundam merged together.

Emotionally complex plot with awesome actions sequences that have at least some decent form of TACTICS. It's tactics WITHOUT the drawn out explanations of how the special technique was created and how hard they trained to get it.

THAT is why Nanoha is awesome!