Forum - View topic
NEWS: Japanese Industry Launches Global Anti-Piracy Effort

Except the only "suffering" is mostly self inflicted from bad business decisions. Making flop after flop does tend to drive down any profits you would hope to be seeing, which is why Gonzo is as in bad a shape as it is in (though Strike Witches and SW2 are helping it back on its feet). This can closely be tied in with what was previously said by the rep from Square-Enix, in that the market is very fickle and you have to know where the money's at or risk losing out.

The lack of piracy would also increase the price of things. Proof is in the 360 in comparison to the ps3. 360 games are generally cheaper and drop in price faster than ps3 games and this can be attributed to 360 games being easily pirated while ps3 hasn't been cracked yet. Games that were $60 when the ps3 first launched are still $60, while 360 games average around $20.

I'm with Einhorn on this.

Ghibli, while their anime are cool, they always go out as big screen and dvd releases. Since they do no regular series, very few people will even bother pirating the stuff. I think because of Ghibli's retroistic stance on anime, and their big name, is why they have been added to this list.

The only series fansubbers who really chase here is Gundam. However, Gundam is the type of show that will always sell, because of items huge merchandisind arm, that many anime series do not have. Any other stuff from Sunrise is usually out on dvd anyway.

As for Toho, they have very little stuff anime fans want to see anyway.

This effort will just from their sof view, very little will come of it. Point guns at anime fans and they'll just vote with their feet and hurt you more. Indeed, Media Blasters are a good example. They also need to remember anime is a niche market, and few will buy and support the industry beyond us fans.

These studios lack good thinking, as far as online distribution goes. The success of Bones anime shows online show that things can work out, if you are prepared to compromise (a big japanese problem). Only other problem here is sites not being open to global access.

I'm from England and can't access Crunchyroll, Hulu etc, so using fansubs and purchasing dvds, either official or imports, are more only avenues. Funimation was a good avenue for a while for streaming, until that too got region locked. I agree that studios should get their dues, but they seem to be going the wrong way about it.

I find this as not much to worry about overall, as this list does not represent the huge portion of the anime industry that serves us. And as far as classic anime like Space Runaway Ideon, LotGH etc go, fansubs are the only way to get them. So long as they are available, as a fan I need to see as much as I can. I'd love to buy m, though, but there's no chance in hell of that.

I heavily depend on fansubs, but I'm really curious about what it'd be like without them around.
Of course, give us some kind of streaming service, be it paid or not, where the videos won't be available for longer than a month's time (like CR's Fairy Fail). Then I won't have any complaints. But sincerely, I'd say the market would definitely shrink(or stop growing), since fansubs are what attracts most of the fans out there.
I'm definitely not going to start blind buying every series I'm interested in watching, and that's where the fansubs comes in.

Basically, even if they are successful, I still believe it's really risky for the anime industry to completely get rid of fansubbing groups.
Just as some say, if people enjoy anime and have the money, they will buy it. If not, they'll simply quit anime.

Anti-piracy might've failed against music or movies, but technology keeps improving, and at some point it'll reach a point where we won't have as much freedom online as we used to. And that's something bound to happen sooner or later.

Either way, it'd be great to see the anime industry start growing again, and making things cheaply available for us, foreigners.

That's the problem with that statement though. It's not a problem of the stock not moving so much as the stock moving and prices not changing. People will want to buy stuff that's cheaper than something that's more expensive. Proof is in the game Borderlands for ps3, 360, and PC. The initial price was set at $40 instead of the average $60 dollars and still sold out and then some, even though it wasn't even on the radar for being a top selling game. Look at the ps3 price cut of $100 dollars as well, which afterward drove the sells of the ps3 up 707%. It's not that the stock isn't moving, but it's that more people will buy it if the stock is cheaper. It's a simple law of supply and demand and for these companies to meet the demand they need a cheap, profitable, and readily available way to supply.

Ha yeah right like this is going to stop people.

I'm a huge anime fan, I buy everything I download. But America is not going to buy up every single anime series cause some of the are complete cliche and not worth buying and releasing, but some of us English speaking people like to watch it.. How then do I watch these series when America wont license and release it? And the company's that close down leaving series unfinished.

Regardless of how illegal downloading there shows is if I want to watch anime I will any way possible.

I just question the idea that DVDs would be cheaper...when DVDs were not cheaper when piracy was less even though actual manufacturing costs for DVDs have not changed significantly over the same time as far as I can tell for the big movers and shakers.

Of course it is hard to compare due to vastly different economies/business cycles/whatever...but in general I think the idea that DVDs would be cheaper if there was less piracy is divorced from reality.

Higher sales does not always equate to lower prices, even assuming that there would be higher sales with less piracy which is a pretty tenuous claim given the reason for anime penetration into most other markets is due to illegal activity.

Also, if price is the driving factor...why would local business benefit when people could order through walmart or some other international store which can undercut local business?

It takes a conscious decision to NOT go after the cheapest price, in general, for a local business to succeed versus a major competitor. It's the other items, screenings/clubs/related merchandise/what have you, which would allow a local business to compete against a huge chain, not price.

Last edited by pparker on Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:18 pm; edited 2 times in total

Simple matter of distance really. Not every town has a Wal-mart for example, and they can easily be 20+ miles away, while you could have a local store within 10 miles that could have the product you want, and may even be a speciatly shop that would have a wider selection. Please don't forget that people boycott big box companies to prevent them from being built in their cities. That said, both of the Wal-marts that are closest to me are at about 11 miles away each in different directions (I live on the far outskirts of town) and those are considered "close" for me due to it being easier to get to them from where I live than to some of the "local" shops in the middle of the town (due to traffic, basically 3 turns over those 11 miles to get there compared to lots of turns for one of the other shops) but if I was closer to the city center and downtown areas the traffic would be relatively bad to go through (and we have poor public transportation) so a closer store would be more convenient for those people.

	Anime News Network Forum Index -> Site-related -> Talkback	All times are GMT - 5 Hours Goto page Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 Next
Page 4 of 9

Forum - View topicNEWS: Japanese Industry Launches Global Anti-Piracy Effort

Forum - View topic
NEWS: Japanese Industry Launches Global Anti-Piracy Effort