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Emiri Kato, Yoko Matsuoka, Kubotite official spellings




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maaya



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:58 pm Reply with quote
person #28606, #1274

as you can see on the official homepages linked to in the entries it seems that they drop the long-vowel "u" when using romaji. I think ANN sticks to official spellings, so should that be changed? Or at least I think it should be changed to "ō" ... which seems to be the standard in general on ANN (and not ou)?


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dormcat
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:05 pm Reply with quote
There are hundreds, if not thousands, of names with that problem. We're (or more exactly, I'm) fixing them one by one...

Gotta go now; will fix them later today.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:12 am Reply with quote
maaya wrote:
Or at least I think it should be changed to "ō" ... which seems to be the standard in general on ANN (and not ou)?

By way of explanation: the ability to display macrons was added a while back, but several years after the Encyclopedia was created.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:10 pm Reply with quote
dormcat: Yea, I believe there are quite a lot of them. ^^; I'd like to help, but I can't even report them as "error" when they're the "main spelling" on the page?

doc, I see. So today when entering something in romaji using macrons for long vowels is the standard, yes?

If you don't mind I'll use this thread for another question on "official spellings" ^^

I tried searching for any old post concerning this, but couldn't find any.

Where did you get the spelling "Kubotite" from? I think on every Bleach manga I've ever seen no matter in which language, his name is spelt Tite Kubo and usually the spelling of the authors name is decided by the Japanese licencors. (see Nisioisin, who is also spelt like this on US releases of his works)
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:12 pm Reply with quote
maaya wrote:
doc, I see. So today when entering something in romaji using macrons for long vowels is the standard, yes?

Macrons are the implied standard, but "not required"—see this post and its immediate successor, and this one. Dan42 and tempest have yet to make a statement on the matter, so dormcat currently has the last word on the matter.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:56 am Reply with quote
I thought I had made a statement on the matter, but I can't find it. The official ANN policy is to use the Wikipedia Japanese Manual of Style because after reviewing it I found that I agree with all of its clauses. And yes, that means using macrons.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:26 am Reply with quote
Dan42 wrote:
I thought I had made a statement on the matter, but I can't find it. The official ANN policy is to use the Wikipedia Japanese Manual of Style because after reviewing it I found that I agree with all of its clauses. And yes, that means using macrons.

Okay...would you be so kind as to post that in a less ephemeral thread?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:12 pm Reply with quote
Dan42 wrote:
And yes, that means using macrons.

Question: what about people who spell their names with non-standard ways, especially on copyright notice and/or adapted by English publishers? In the worst case, a Japanese name can be transliterated differently by different publishers/distributors, yet they are all "official" (I've seen an example but can't find it right now). Shall we "standardize" them or mark those as aliases? Which one should be kept as the main entry?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:41 pm Reply with quote
The wikipedia guidelines even cover that. Or are you talking about something else that I'm misunderstanding?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:31 pm Reply with quote
Dan42 wrote:
The wikipedia guidelines even cover that.

Thanks. All I need is that "in order of preference:" if the person/company has his/her/its own preferred romanization (rule #1 and #3) then we shall honor those, instead of using standardized i.e. macronned form.
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