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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:14 pm Reply with quote
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But after reflecting on it a bit, I think one of the show's big shortcomings to me is that, overall, it's a bit too dragged out. I'm fine enough with a slow pace if it's entertaining or it's contributing something. But there's been too much that doesn't do that for me. I think I read earlier that the show seems to be following nearly a 1/1 ratio on chapters to episodes? Well, I guess I feel like it'd be stronger if they went for maybe 1.5/1 or even 2/1.

I have to agree with this. I thought the first half of the series was paced exceptionally well, but even though I've liked the last four episodes I can't dispute that story progression has gone into slow motion - presumably so that the series' season ends where the director wants it to end while still having all of the necessary backstory for events to make sense. Were this a guaranteed two cour in length, we'd probably have these flashbacks spaced out much more.

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Did it establish that he was a university student at the time? Maybe I overlooked that.

In her monologue, Aria states that spoiler[Dan'ichiro was a grad student when she came to work there.]

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So, I'm actually making the opposite claim of what you responded to: I'm saying that Rea was just having an ordinary reaction to pretty routine antics - and I'm saying that that shouldn't have been the case. Is it possible that Rea just wasn't bothered by it because it was Furuya, with whom she is smitten? Sure. But it really felt much more like the writer was oblivious to what they were doing.

That's why I made my earlier comment about wanting to pick the writer's and director's brains, as the execution of the scene in anime form leaves how intentional the comparison is very vague. I'm inclined to believe that the parallels being drawn here are a little too strong and numerous for it to be entirely coincidental (and thus sloppy on the writer's part).
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:14 pm Reply with quote
Etrien wrote:
But after reflecting on it a bit, I think one of the show's big shortcomings to me is that, overall, it's a bit too dragged out. I'm fine enough with a slow pace if it's entertaining or it's contributing something. But there's been too much that doesn't do that for me. I think I read earlier that the show seems to be following nearly a 1/1 ratio on chapters to episodes? Well, I guess I feel like it'd be stronger if they went for maybe 1.5/1 or even 2/1.
Oh, it's worse than that. (manga pacing issues) spoiler[The ratio is closer to 1/1.5. The flashback episodes are pulled from later on in the manga, because the first big climax came too early (chapter 9), and the second one came too late (chapter 20).] I think that the slower adaptation is actually very effective, but 12 episodes is just the wrong length for it, and so stuff has to be moved that throws off the pacing.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:16 am Reply with quote
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spoiler[ umm i think it says in episode 3 that Rea's dad will cut off his 'man hood' so maybe it might get weird!! just saying]
i did not like this episode and it is mainly because i don't like her step mother or her dad! but i am still very curious about the next episode!!


I thought it was an alright episode. I just found it very strange and it also amazed me at some points. Also, it got a bit disturbing, but like I said in my last comment, I was just amazed and ....wow! Shocked

Also, can't wait for the next episode! Anime hyper
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:41 pm Reply with quote
Mayonaka_12 wrote:
DeathNote_L wrote:
spoiler[ umm i think it says in episode 3 that Rea's dad will cut off his 'man hood' so maybe it might get weird!! just saying]
i did not like this episode and it is mainly because i don't like her step mother or her dad! but i am still very curious about the next episode!!


I thought it was an alright episode. I just found it very strange and it also amazed me at some points. Also, it got a bit disturbing, but like I said in my last comment, I was just amazed and ....wow! Shocked

Also, can't wait for the next episode! Anime hyper

but seriously i wonder what will happen??? Question Question
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:50 am Reply with quote
Sanakarea OVA
It was set before the series took place, and mostly focused on spoiler[pointing out that Chihiro do not have much memories of their mother, though Chihiro did have a couple flashes that bring to thought the idea that their mother was a zombie for a time. We also saw how he came across the book, and that he had a small run in with Rea. I tend to get a little annoyed about that those pre series OVAs that have characters passing by each other.]
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:37 am Reply with quote
I liked the OVA a lot. Again, it continues to fill in some of the missing pieces like how spoiler[Chihiro came across the Resurrection-for-Dummies book.] It also strongly hints spoiler[that Chihiro's mother's end was not a pleasant one. In fact, you get the sense that both Chihiro and Mero's memories were deliberately tampered with, no doubt to get rid of whatever horror may have happened.]

Anyway you cut it, I just don't see Sankarea being resolved in a satisfying way in just one cours. There is just too much interesting stuff going on.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:09 pm Reply with quote
so why was Sankarea on this week Question Question Confused
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:39 pm Reply with quote
You mean why was it not on?

As I understand it, a few other series also took/are taking a week break sometime this month. Commonly this happens because of Golden Week throwing production schedules off, from what I understand. Besides, if it hadn't then the series would have finished a week early. (Typically 12-episode seasons start during the second week of a new season rather than the first.)

Concerning the OVA: yeah, I used to be a big fan of spoiler[near-miss meetings] in these prequel episodes, but I agree that they've gotten trite through overuse. Still, this one did have a lot more of critical interest and reference than what these normally do. spoiler[The mother telling the father specifically not to let the kids know much about her, presumably because she was a zombie and knew she was eventually going to lose control of herself] was quite interesting as were those very disturbing flashes. I also found it very interesting that they brought up the bridge, suggesting it is important, but never explained why. This series has been a little too carefully-calculated so far for that to be just an oversight. I think we can all make certain reasonable assumptions about why it's important, but I'm curious to see how that plays out.

And partly concerning this issue: I recently went back looking at some earlier episodes to get some good screen shots and noticed that there's some significant subtle foreshadowing in those episodes - the kind that you wouldn't pick up on during a first view but would be much more likely to notice on a second and go "ah!". In episode 5 near the beginning, for instance, a brief scene of the shrine to Chihrio and Mero's mother is shown. There's a certain type of flowers on that shrine - spoiler[hydrangeas]. Given what's implied in episodes 9 and the OVA, that's certainly not a coincidence. The branch which ultimately killed Rea in episode 3 is also shown clearly - even focused on for a second in episode 1. I suspect that there may be other foreshadowings if we go looking for them.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:19 pm Reply with quote
Key wrote:

As I understand it, a few other series also took/are taking a week break sometime this month. Commonly this happens because of Golden Week throwing production schedules off, from what I understand. Besides, if it hadn't then the series would have finished a week early. (Typically 12-episode seasons start during the second week of a new season rather than the first.)


I'm not sure if Wikipedia is right or not but it has Sankarea for 13 episodes. I just checked MyAnimeList as well and they have it down for a 13 episode season too.

I'm sort of bummed about this delay as it's the show I look forward to the most each week but I'm sure next episode'll be great.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:45 pm Reply with quote
Episode 11:
After an extra week of wait it's finally out, and it doesn't disappoint. Not sure how I expected things to play out, but this wasn't it. I loved the way Chihiro ended up handling things, and I have to think that he may have earned back some of the respect that he lost in the face of some posted back in the middle episodes. His attitude throughout everything that happened was a delight to watch, and I loved how the series balanced its humor (those are some amusingly twisted maids) and serious bits. This episode also provided the strongest reason yet why Rea would want to be with him: spoiler[he understands her.] The shot at the end where spoiler[Rea comes to understand that Wanko is in love with him - which all of us, of course, knew from the beginning] was also a nice touch.

And of course we can't forget to mention spoiler[Rea in a bunny suit and a nurse's outfit - especially the former.] For all of Wanko shaking her boobs right in front of the camera, I found those shots to be far sexier.

Given the climax present in this episode, I'm curious to see how the series handles the last episode. It almost feels more like it's winding down to a mid-season break.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:29 am Reply with quote
Well, that was definitely worth the wait for this week's latest episode 11 (although the OVA last week was catchy also).

It was funny, emotional, and also climatic spoiler[seeing Chihiro giving Rea's father the lecture about his daughter that he seemed to fail to understand. And in the end...it seems that he finally seems to accept Chihiro (temporary anyways in his mind) and as long as he doesn't take Rea's "chasity" Wink]

Also, I lol'd spoiler[@ the bunny outfit which sort of reminded me of High School of the Dead there for a sec LOL]

And yes, the spoiler[ending seemed kinda obvious by Rea's reaction in which she knows that Ranko is in love (or at least feels affection) towards Chihiro. Oh boy, inb4 catfights.]

Next episode looks like the spoiler[traditional Japanese festival though and something involves with Mero's job Question ]

Ah, this series continues to impress me weekly although I'm also not sure how they are going to finish off the final two episodes. Hopefully, it'll be something to talk about.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:16 am Reply with quote
.... So everyone has pretty much said what I think, although I was less impressed with the bit wherespoiler[ Rea was forced into wearing those outfits by the maids.] It just seemed a little odd to have something like that when our spoiler[lead is dealing with a fight to the death, where he latter gets stabbed,] was that maybe the kind of mix manga readers were talking about. But points for spoiler[being sexy bunny-girl suit.]

So Rea's father finally learned that he was doing more harm than good in his supposed protecting, he was the one that spoiler[deserved to be stabbed.] I was just hoping something along the lines of saying that he is not helping his daughter, the only one he has been helping was himself. That he was being just as bad as his family telling him he could not marry his wife, he was taking such freedoms from his daughter.

At least spoiler[he finally took a look at what he has done, but did not say anything about the fact he almost killed Chihiro, as far as I am concerned that is fair permission for something in return.]
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:52 am Reply with quote
Surprised so worth the wait and all the weird episodes (like the one about Rea's step-mum) it is sad to think that there are only 2 more episodes before it stops or takes a break! but this is the best episode so far!when Rea's dad finally understood that Chihiro knows Rea better then him it all came into balance! sill think this is one of the best anime i have ever watched!! <3 Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:55 am Reply with quote
Yep, good eppie. Although, not to sound like a broken record, but if Chihiro understands Rea so well (and he definitely knew her Dad took nude photos of her on her birthday since he mentioned it) then why couldn't he understand her discomfort at him filming her? But that's all water under the bridge, I'm back to liking him more again.

And I can only repeat what I've said before: I think too much has been put in play for this series to wrap up satisfyingly in just two more episodes. It needs another cours and I hope it gets it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:02 am Reply with quote
Am I the only one who thinks that Rea's father spoiler[got off way too lightly? Let's see, child molestation, kidnapping, attempted murder etc, etc. Nah, all he needs is just a good talking too, right?]

DuskyPredator wrote:
...was that maybe the kind of mix manga readers were talking about. But points for spoiler[being sexy bunny-girl suit.]

From what I remember there was more wacky humor in the manga and it was not as well balanced in its presentation as the show is. I like the anime way better than the manga.
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