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dirkusbirkus



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:12 am Reply with quote


Upotte!! (ONA)

So I have to hold my hands up here, I'm only starting this thread because I have a burning question and it doesn't have a discussion thread yet. My overall opinion of the show is... not so great at this point.

My question about Upotte!! (for those who're watching it) is this: The show hints at numerous points in the first couple of episodes that the girls themselves are weapons. As in, they're actual guns in human form. The one representing the FNC rifle or whatever (my knowledge of weaponry is, unsurprisingly, rather poor) goes on about having her stock gripped and her trigger pulled and various other thinly-veiled firearm innuendoes. The posters in the hallways tell them not to walk around without their safeties on or to have ammunition loaded. The FNC chick has to wear a thong because she has a skeleton stock. There are other things too. Hell, even their names are guns. But here's the kicker: As far as I can tell, these girls aren't guns at all. The premise immediately put me in mind of some sort of magical ability to transform into a weapon. That's just not the case so far. You see the girls with their respective guns pretty frequently, but you never see them as guns.

Have I completely misunderstood something here? Have I jumped to the wrong conclusion entirely by assuming all this talk about being weapons meant they actually were weapons? I mean fair enough, you could say that a trained soldier is a weapon or whatever but that's not what they seemed to be getting at here. These girls are able to pull these giant assault rifles literally out of thin air, if they're going to go that far with the suspension of disbelief, why not do the whole transform-y thing?

As for the actual show, it'll probably be my second dropped series this season (Hiiro no Kakera has the dubious honour of being the first) since it's basically just a combination of gun porn and moe/ecchi nonsense. I really don't care about calibers or bullet trajectories, or the effective range of a swiss sniper rifle or the amount of shots a burst from an M16 would produce. There's probably a rabid audience for this kind of mix, but I'm really not part of said audience.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:22 am Reply with quote
Continuing my grand tradition of (Almost) Never Meeting an Anime I Didn't Like, I am digging this show. The premise is wack, of course, but that's kinda why I'm into anime in the first place. I like the fanservice. The goofy humour works for me. Second episode was actually pretty good, story-wise. I'm starting to get a sense of the characters and I like the younger sister versus older sister dynamic. I know zip about firearms so the show is actually kind of educational for me, as well. All in all, a welcome entry into the subgenre of Cute Girls Shooting Things Cutely.

Anyhoo, in answer to your question: I share your mystification. I, too, was under the impression that the girls are actually guns, but we have not seen any evidence of that. I rather suspect we never will.
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asimpson2006



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:37 am Reply with quote
I like this show too, but I'm on the mindset that if you treat this as a popcorn show you can get a lot of enjoyment out of it. Being a person who likes guns (albeit I do not use them myself) I do get some enjoyment out of watching this.

Nice little guilty pleasure show if I do say so myself.
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DuskyPredator



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:45 am Reply with quote
Yeah it got confusing of whether they are soldiers like say guns for hire, or physical weapons that are in human form. Like that one girl had stomache problems because it is prone to jamming, and it actually sounded like the sound of a spring going off. Not to mention the thong thing that I have some what hope we will get more than heresay. If they are actually guns there is no guilt about their apparent ages, and wanting to pull their triggers?

Actually I did not realise it was an ONA, does that mean there are going to be more episodes. I too have little knowledge of weapons, I am not the type of person who learns about all the guns in shooting games, so this would be educational to me kind of like that time I watched Chu-Bra!!.
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The King of Harts



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:51 am Reply with quote
I think it's just like how Hetalia is handled where they're named after their countries and act like the people from the country, but they aren't actually the country. Hell, they aren't even the only person from the country (we see lots of Americans and Italians, for example).

So, in Upotte, they're named after the guns and act like the guns, but they aren't actually the guns and all the innuendo is for comedic effect. I also think their might be a little "you are the gun" mentality going on since the Sargent (Major? Captain? I'm not sure) seems to be one of those types that would instill that.
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The posters in the hallways tell them not to walk around without their safeties on or to have ammunition loaded.

I'm pretty sure that's a literal sign. Since the girls have guns and they carry them everywhere, the school puts up signs saying to leave on the safety and to unload ammo, much like you're supposed to in real life. I thought it was innuendo after first, too, but after two episodes, I think it's a sign to be taken at face value.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:02 am Reply with quote
I'd certainly hate to be on the maintenance staff of that school.
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DuskyPredator



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:17 am Reply with quote
Blood- wrote:
I'd certainly hate to be on the maintenance staff of that school.
Maintaining the grounds, or the "guns"?
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Polycell



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:29 am Reply with quote
DuskyPredator wrote:
Actually I did not realise it was an ONA, does that mean there are going to be more episodes.
Crunchyroll says it's thirteen episodes.
The King of Harts wrote:
So, in Upotte, they're named after the guns and act like the guns, but they aren't actually the guns and all the innuendo is for comedic effect. I also think their might be a little "you are the gun" mentality going on since the Sargent (Major? Captain? I'm not sure) seems to be one of those types that would instill that.
How do you explain AR18's jamming and the spring sound when the nurse poked her?
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The King of Harts



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:38 am Reply with quote
No fuckin' clue. My only guess is it's another innuendo. Much like how people will say they have a "bum wheel" when their leg hurts - something like that. So maybe in this instance, "weak spring" is a stomach ache and those sound affects were added for comedic affect and weren't really coming from her stomach. Maybe? Like I said, no fuckin' clue, but I'm not taking it at face value.

When one of the girls physically transforms into a gun, then, and only then, will I start taking these things at face value. For now, though, it's all for comedic affect in the same vain as Hetalia.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:57 am Reply with quote
I'm beginning to think they should've held the realism, as the effective ranges and things like a fountain's falling water affecting the flight of a round within 8m of leaving the barrel, so much so that it misses its target, appear to be exaggerated.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:59 am Reply with quote
I think you all are thinking too hard. They are guns when needed for a joke, and they carry guns when needed for a joke. They can't very well transform into guns, because there'd be no one to fire them.

For some reason, I'm really digging the ending.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:11 am Reply with quote
We resent the implication that we are thinking at all, never mind too hard. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:15 am Reply with quote
Polycell wrote:
How do you explain AR18's jamming and the spring sound when the nurse poked her?


Haven't seen any of this yet, but if they are trying to incorporate some facts into the girls personalities, the early M16s (on which the AR18 is based) were notorious for jamming when they were first introduced.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:42 am Reply with quote
Ok I watched episode 2, don't know how I missed its release but this thread reminded me to look for it.

These girls are definetly not human, or you should just not think too much, which is kind of strange when you consider all the gun facts they chuck at ya. Having a spoiler[capture the flag game where they shot at each other with weapons that could easilly shoot a vital spot, or another student] seems rather risky. Maybe I don't really care anymore which it is, but there appeared to be an elf and catgirl in the OP, which really could point to both possibilities.

Scene of wonder was showing how from their words are put in schools, and the elementry school version got me really excited for some reason. I do hope we see some loli guns. Anime catgrin

Why did watching this make me want to play some FPS games.
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Veers



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:12 am Reply with quote
Okay, so as a gun owner I checked out the first episode out of morbid curiosity.

This show is pretty amazing... mostly for the wrong reasons.

The humor wasn't really working for me overall--or rather, the whole thing is so absurd that it's funny, but the comedy didn't feel like it had any real stopping power.

The notable exception was the "jammed" scene, which in hindsight fit perfectly, but I didn't see it coming and the timing (and SFX touch) was perfect. Hilarious. The rest of the episode, though, eh, little too dry or gratuitous for me.

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How do you explain AR18's jamming and the spring sound when the nurse poked her?

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No fuckin' clue. My only guess is it's another innuendo. Much like how people will say they have a "bum wheel" when their leg hurts - something like that. So maybe in this instance, "weak spring" is a stomach ache and those sound affects were added for comedic affect and weren't really coming from her stomach. Maybe? Like I said, no fuckin' clue, but I'm not taking it at face value.

Guys, guys, you are thinking way too hard about this. She's a personification of a gun. Guns can get jammed. She's constipated. It's a joke. It's kind of so clever it's really actually dumb. Or maybe it's the other way around. Either way, I thought it was the best gag in the whole episode.
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