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NEWS: 80% of Seiyū Take Part-Time Jobs to Make Ends Meet


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bleuster



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:02 am Reply with quote
So, is that % higher or lower of the N.A. voice actors?

I don't think it's sad if they're satisfied with their lifestyle. It could be exactly what they want. I know I'd want to spread my legs in other professions if I had the choice.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:05 am Reply with quote
bleuster wrote:

I don't think it's sad if they're satisfied with their lifestyle. It could be exactly what they want. I know I'd want to spread my legs in other professions if I had the choice.


I don't think they're spreading their legs in the world's oldest profession though.... Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:16 am Reply with quote
I kind of find it a bit sad as well, as I kept hearing Japanese VA get treated better than other VAs in the world. Only to find they are making ends meet like this just like all the other VAs out there. Tells me VA jobs aren't on a high level like live action just yet.
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dm85



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:23 am Reply with quote
The numbers themselves don't really tell much of a story. It may be the average for that sort of field. It isn't a steady 9-5 job for most so they have to fight for roles. It also doesn't necessarily mean the pay is bad though in some cases it probably is limited.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:59 am Reply with quote
enurtsol wrote:
bleuster wrote:

I don't think it's sad if they're satisfied with their lifestyle. It could be exactly what they want. I know I'd want to spread my legs in other professions if I had the choice.

I don't think they're spreading their legs in the world's oldest profession though.... Laughing

Well, if you still remember the news...

There's also a manga describing makura eigyō in seiyū business.
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Keiichi-chan



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:22 am Reply with quote
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Isn't this the same as with manga-kas?

Most reaaally popular mangaka are millionaires. Rumiko Takahashi and Eiichiro Oda are friggin SWIMMING in cash.
With the royalties from the 10-20 mediocre One Piece games that come out for EVERY system, EVERY year, he could probably build a lake of liquid gold that runs through his mansion.

I think the part-time jobs are just hosting radio shows. I remember reading that almost every seiyuu in Japan at one time or another host radio shows on the side and dabbles in singing.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:33 am Reply with quote
While obviously the situation is different in Japan, I've often thought that if I were to try and get a job doing voice work in America, I'd do it as a part time gig with a more consistant part time job. But then, thats in the 5 minutes of thought I've given to the prospect here and there.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:10 am Reply with quote
I'm curious about the differences in royalties in Japan vs. the U.S. The percentage of actors in the U.S. making a living at it is probably similar, but a couple of my former-actor friends did quite a few guest spots on TV shows and got little checks for several years. Again, not enough to live on, but it was something.

Not that I'm a (modern) union supporter in general, but SAG and the other entertainment unions have gone a long way to try to help actors make a living at it since the studio system fell apart (which did create a living for contracted actors, but restricted their freedom obviously and capped their income somewhat). I don't know if there are similar unions in Japan.

And does anyone know what supermarket Romi works at? Smile

(Of course, in reality she was an actress first with many roles, so I imagine any shelf-stocking experience she may have had is rusty by now.)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:33 am Reply with quote
pparker wrote:
I'm curious about the differences in royalties in Japan vs. the U.S. The percentage of actors in the U.S. making a living at it is probably similar, but a couple of my former-actor friends did quite a few guest spots on TV shows and got little checks for several years. Again, not enough to live on, but it was something.


There was an old post on the Seiyuu ML about (I think) Masako Nozawa and other Dragon Ball (Z) VAs winning a case to get residuals based on video sales. Previously residuals only kicked in for TV reruns.

ISTR that something like 80% of a seiyuu's salary went to the talent agency/management company, which is why a lot of seiyuu went independent in the nineties.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:52 am Reply with quote
From what I've been finding out recently, getting a job in Japan will only get more difficult, what with the economy, and Japan's well known shrinking population. Most places they're making people take tests to even be considered for hiring, and if they do get hired, whether or not they get the actual job they applied for can be questionable at that.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:41 am Reply with quote
I too think it is sad. Sad in that thousands of people (tens of thousands, really) aspire to become Seiyuu, but that most of the ones who are successful still cannot even make a decent wage of it (put food on the table, pay the bills, that sort of thing).

The economic realities of it are fairly scary. These people are taking a big risk in attempting to become Seiyuu; a lot of pain for the 0.2% chance of reaching the top level. Makes me sort of appreciate their work more, I suppose.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:21 am Reply with quote
fighterholic wrote:
From what I've been finding out recently, getting a job in Japan will only get more difficult, what with the economy, and Japan's well known shrinking population. Most places they're making people take tests to even be considered for hiring, and if they do get hired, whether or not they get the actual job they applied for can be questionable at that.

That's not a new thing, the hiring practices have always included tests, especially for the larger companies.
That goes all the way back to confucious.

Getting a job in Japan is actually not difficult at all if you are graduating from one of Japan's top universities the year you are searching. It's a long process involving many seminars and meetings and interviews and tests... but chances are good that you get a job in the end if you follow the system.. A lot easier than getting a job out of college than in the states comparatively. Or a lot more uniform, anyway.

On the other hand, getting a job at any OTHER time is damn near impossible, like if you get laid off or if you miss the recruitment period for your graduation year. Then you are screwed.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:37 am Reply with quote
samuelp wrote:
That's not a new thing, the hiring practices have always included tests, especially for the larger companies.
That goes all the way back to confucious.

Getting a job in Japan is actually not difficult at all if you are graduating from one of Japan's top universities the year you are searching. It's a long process involving many seminars and meetings and interviews and tests... but chances are good that you get a job in the end if you follow the system.. A lot easier than getting a job out of college than in the states comparatively. Or a lot more uniform, anyway.

On the other hand, getting a job at any OTHER time is damn near impossible, like if you get laid off or if you miss the recruitment period for your graduation year. Then you are screwed.

Well, I know who to talk to if and when any of my friends get "screwed."
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:03 am Reply with quote
Makes me want to buy the OSTs and OP/ED singles of some anime to help support the poor seiyuu. Is there a way to get those without paying a fortune in shipping and taxes to Amazon JP?
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Draneor



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:18 am Reply with quote
Kimiko_0 wrote:
Makes me want to buy the OSTs and OP/ED singles of some anime to help support the poor seiyuu. Is there a way to get those without paying a fortune in shipping and taxes to Amazon JP?

First, you don't pay taxes to Amazon.JP and the standard Japanese sales tax is not charged for foreign sales. You may pay an import duty to your government, depending on where you live. Second, while international shipping is expensive regardless of where you go, there are other options, such as CDJapan and HMV.jp, which may be cheaper.

My understanding is that seiyuu-singers do not generally receive much for singing either. Unless they happened to also write the lyrics, in which case I believe they receive a royalty. Most seiyuu do not work on OSTs and they are unlikely to receive any revenue from them. Buying things does help ensure they have work though.


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