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Hey, Answerman! - Netflix Violation

Though I have to say, newer fans are far more guilty of Average Mainstream Consumer "this doesn't completely fill my TV screen, so I don't like it" Syndrome when it comes to older 4:3 anime. Portable DVD player and borrowed laptops aside, I watch everything on 4:3 screens, and I've never once thought, "This show is 16:9, I don't feel like watching it."

The ensuing shitstorm almost resulted in a mass ban and threats of legal action.

While I do love the currently-stylish anime aesthetics, I think that a lot of older anime is absolutely beautiful to look at.

Likewise people who always claim the original Pocket Monsters was the best. No.. no it's really not. Diamond & Pearl, Best Wishes, and even Advanced Generation run circles around it in terms of pacing, characterization, and story.

It makes me wonder if newer fans does the same thing with other mediums or is it just an anime thing? Older books, live-action, music, etc. Seems strange to me if one just sticks to new when released shows and won't even touch a two year old show. I like old and new alike as long as its something I'm interested in.

I am going to have to seriously disagree with your assessment of Tenchi Muyo. Honestly there has not been a harem since that has done the genre better. Tenchi Muyo has the most character development and depth I have seen amongst the girls, throws in some fairly interesting complex elements like political intrigue and some more philosophical issues with the whole can the gods create a being greater than themselves. The show took controvesial topics and presented them in such a way as to make people not bat an eye, incest anyone. Today you make a show and they are step siblings and people have an aneurism, Aeka and Yosho were siblings going to be married, and Tenchi and Aeka/Sasami are nephew and grand aunt. Not to mention Tenchi actually did what a harem is supposed to do, left you guessing as to who would win, there are honestly only a couple of anime shows where I don't know the pairing from the opening intro. And going by the name Tenchi is one of the few shows that actually is a harem, with a harem ending (if you take into account secondary source or go with gxp).

I love Infinite Stratos, To Love Ru, High School DxD, and Zombie Desu, as I think these are the shows who come the closest to emulating a true harem like Tenchi, but other than updated art style I don't think they are any better.

And for God's Sake, terrible animation, really, I consider terrible animation to be something like crayon shin chan, older anime do not look bad, its just a different art style.

I mean your comments are rather off putting, to tell you the truth. What if I said astro boy, that's real garbage or any number of classic works. You have to respect works for what they did to further the medium and look at them in their context. I mean its like saying, stupid vikings using swords and axes, we have guns and missiles, because clearly these are more effective means. A finely crafted sword is no less a master piece of weaponry. I don't punish something in the past for something that was not possible. Epic of Gilgamesh is no lesser a work than say War and Peace. Fans of literary work could appreciate this, not your twilight readers but fans of literature.

Last point, Crest of the Stars says hi. I don't know in what context you meant there has not been anything LoGH, but other than length that is fairly on point. Or I don't know, say Gundam, you know you ever watched Gundam before.

And Masion Ikkoku its been done as well, not exactly identical but close enough; in fact ever show probably has several shows that they can be compared to.

Aye there I go rambling again let me say this I am twenty six years old and I have never seen any of slayers. No ova's, movies or specials. This might offend some and i have seen over 400 series/movies/ovas check my list. Is slayers really worth watching?? Am I really missing out on anything?? Or is i just a generic mystical adventure show?

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The ensuing shitstorm almost resulted in a mass ban and threats of legal action.

Whoa!! I would've loved to read that, especially that it got as far into legal threats! How it started though is pretty amusing though...

I think things like movies can be different. Disney animated features for example seem to be timeless. Sure, the kids of today really enjoy the CG of Pixar etc. but the classic movies still seem to appeal to kids of today (unless it's just big kids like me picking up the blu rays?)
Live-action movies as well can be timeless. Well, it depends how far back it goes. Not everyone can enjoy movies from the 20's-60's, but 70's-90's seem to hold up even now. How many people can say that things like Star Wars and Jurassic Park are "too old" for them?

Really, younger/newer anime fans not wanting to check out older (or even 4:3) anime is more like people not wanting to watch B&W productions. One can talk all about how stuff like Casablanca or Citizen Kane are classics, but there will be a lot of people who will never watch them because they are B&W films, and that's it. It's similar to how you now have people who won't watch anime from the early-to-mid-00s and before because they look older, and that's it.

And let's be honest, most of Bebop's flare comes from the fact it was one of the first 'adult anime' you watched. You were a little kid who grew up on DBZ and other Toonami stuff, then Adult Swim premiers and suddenly "Wow, cool adult anime.. with more blood and action! I've never seen anything like this before"

But all those revolve around nostalgia. And as we all know, you can't argue against someone's nostalgia. It's an argument you can't win.

Anime is great in you have 40+ shows a season to choose from. So in that regard, no, there's no huge reason you should have to go back to watch older stuff. Unless you're on a nostalgia binge or want to find shows of a specific genre (i.e. watching all the sci-fi anime you can, so you grab stuff from now back to the 60s) Or you just want to check out some shows you've heard about.

... Since you are so goddamn stuck on this topic, let me tell you why I don't like 4:3 shows. I have a plasma TV. You know what plasmas are vulnerable to? Image burn. So that off-black color created by the pillars on the side ...

There are 2 main reasons I don't watch older anime much.

1. I'm a videophile, I will admit. Old 360p feeds that aren't digitally animated are an eyecancer for me. Its tough to enjoy something if the video itself isn't good.

2. Older anime, especially the stuff that was dubbed and subbed, typically don't appeal to me as much. I'm not a fan of space operas, mecha shows, big manly men doing manly things, etc. It seems like a lot of older shows focus more on that stuff, so I'll just pass. If theres an older show that does interest me though, like Slayers or Uretsi Yatsura, I'll still watch it though.

Newer anime fixes both of these problems I have.