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NEWS: New Fullmetal Alchemist Anime's Staff Confirmed


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rg4619



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:43 pm Reply with quote
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Is there really a reason for more Fullmetal Alchemist? I was under the impression that the first series did very well, why the need to rush to a remake so soon? Was Arakawa displeased with the first television adaptation? Were the fans? It certainly becaome a different beast than the manga, but it's not as though it ended up as heinously different as the first Hellsing anime.


Money. Some business guys were interviewed after the movie's launch (can't remember which production partner), and the basic opinion was that while there were no current plans for more FMA, continued success meant that they'd eventually have to do it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:50 pm Reply with quote
A new series, a new cast. I see nothing wrong with this. Looks good so far.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:03 am Reply with quote
GeneralArrow wrote:
A new series, a new cast. I see nothing wrong with this. Looks good so far.


At least if Funimation licenses it like they should, we could at least get the original English cast. Since the FMA English dub was just as good as the Japanese Dub, it could make up for the different Japanese cast. After all, only Vic Mignogna can be Edward Elric in English. Even Vic himself loves FMA. I could see him bending over backwards to get to voice Ed again.

Then again, on the Funimation thing, they never did license any of the FMA OVAs(that I know of), so who knows if Funimation wants more.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:05 am Reply with quote
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At least if Funimation licenses it like they should, we could at least get the original English cast. Since the FMA English dub was just as good as the Japanese Dub, it could make up for the different Japanese cast. After all, only Vic Mignogna can be Edward Elric in English. Even Vic himself loves FMA.


Personally, I never understood the popularity of the dub. Even good voice actors like Scott McNeil and Tiffany Grant were poor in it. Vic Mignogna isn't that great as Edward Elric. He failed to capture any of the pathos the character has. He spends most of his time delivering lines with an uninterested creaky whisper. I just couldn't get used to it.

The only decent performances in the dub were by Aaron Dismuke's Alphonse, Christine Auten's Izumi Curtis, and some minor roles, like Brice Armstrong's Tim Marcoh. Most of the others either didn't suit their role or had too few occasions to shine.

There'll be no jutice if Romi Paku isn't recast but Vic Mignogna is.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:24 am Reply with quote
Though nowadays, didn't Aaron Dismuke's voice hit puberty? I think I remember Key mentioning that there's no way he can voice the same innocent little boy's voice anymore.


RogueJedi86 wrote:


Then again, on the Funimation thing, they never did license any of the FMA OVAs(that I know of), so who knows if Funimation wants more.


This blogger says (and he trust his sources) that FUNi got the OVAs:

http://www.fanboyreview.net/2009/01/10/stack-o-news-dbz-blu-fma-ovas-eva-10-and-bandai-5cm/
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:05 pm Reply with quote
I have no source for this impression, but I get the feeling that they might start from the beginning and try to follow the manga more closely, which may be a sign that the manga might be coming to an end. Then again, they could make 100+ episodes from the manga's material, which would give Arakawa a good amount of time to finish, that is, if she is finishing.

As for FUNimation, I would be surprised if they AREN'T jumping on this one as fast as they can. FMA was a big hit for them; if they let this slip by, it's a major mistake.

As for simulcast/speed-sub like Shikabane-Hime: YES, PLEASE!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:22 pm Reply with quote
penguintruth wrote:
RogueJedi86 wrote:
At least if Funimation licenses it like they should, we could at least get the original English cast. Since the FMA English dub was just as good as the Japanese Dub, it could make up for the different Japanese cast. After all, only Vic Mignogna can be Edward Elric in English. Even Vic himself loves FMA.


Personally, I never understood the popularity of the dub. Even good voice actors like Scott McNeil and Tiffany Grant were poor in it. Vic Mignogna isn't that great as Edward Elric. He failed to capture any of the pathos the character has. He spends most of his time delivering lines with an uninterested creaky whisper. I just couldn't get used to it.

The only decent performances in the dub were by Aaron Dismuke's Alphonse, Christine Auten's Izumi Curtis, and some minor roles, like Brice Armstrong's Tim Marcoh. Most of the others either didn't suit their role or had too few occasions to shine.

There'll be no jutice if Romi Paku isn't recast but Vic Mignogna is.


You must be in the minority. Most people I've talked to about the series were thrilled with what Vic and some of the other cast did with the characters, I think its easily one of the best dubbed series ever. I'm not a huge Vic Mignogna fan, but I thought he was great, as was Aaron Dismuke. Romi is also a fantastic actor...but there is one thing that always bothered me about her voicing male characters, and that is...that she sounds like a female. Which is often a problem with female voice actors playing male characters, no matter how hard they try to disguise their voice, they always sound female, its just a natural distinction between sexes. Vic brought a masculinity to the character that the Japanese actually wanted in the English version.

Other than that, I'm a bit disappointed that they have a different composer, the music for the original series is what made it so great, among other things. Hopefully, Funimation picks this series up, I just can't see Bandai or Viz ending up with it after the success of the first series. Not to mention you'd probably have to settle for Johnny Bosch and Yuri Lowenthal as Ed and Al if that were to happen Laughing ...Plus, good luck marketing it to the American fanbase who got used to the same voices from the first series.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:44 pm Reply with quote
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Most people I've talked to about the series were thrilled with what Vic and some of the other cast did with the characters, I think its easily one of the best dubbed series ever.


Not even close. Aside from Vic's poor performance, many other voice actors obviously couldn't decide what voice they were going to use for their character, and so that character's voice changed every other line. For instance, Shou Tucker, King Bradley, and Wrath. Others were just too cartoonish and over-the-top, like Winry's or Nina Tucker's (children do not sound like that). Others were just plain bad, like Chris Patton's flat Greed or Dameon Clarke's "generic bad guy voice"-ed Scar. No, there are some good performances, but this dub is way too uneven to be considered one of the best.

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Romi is also a fantastic actor...but there is one thing that always bothered me about her voicing male characters, and that is...that she sounds like a female. Which is often a problem with female voice actors playing male characters, no matter how hard they try to disguise their voice, they always sound female, its just a natural distinction between sexes. Vic brought a masculinity to the character that the Japanese actually wanted in the English version.


Masculinity? More like disinterest. He sounded like a distant, sterile, unfeeling jerk in the English dub. Romi Paku brought a sense of sorrow and intensity to Edward.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:08 pm Reply with quote
"Doing some cast searchs" don't mean they'll change the old voices.

I don"t want to spoil some peoples but if they do a retelling closer to the manga, they are a few characters that don't exist in the anime, and so, they need some seiyuus for them (they are +/- 10 importants characters that aren't in the anime).

One, without spoiling, is Wrath. It's Bradley in the manga (Izumi's son don't exist in the manga), and so, Pride (Bradley in the anime) is someone else in the manga, so they need a voice for him. There is another homonculus who isn't in the anime and they also need a voice for him.

There is also a few important characters who aren't in the anime and who need voices.

I couldn't imagine they will change the main voices (Like Ed/Al/Winry/Scar) except if they want to "auto-kill" the series themselves.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:14 pm Reply with quote
darkchibi07 wrote:
Though nowadays, didn't Aaron Dismuke's voice hit puberty? I think I remember Key mentioning that there's no way he can voice the same innocent little boy's voice anymore.
Yeah, I don't think Aaron could really pull off Alphonse's voice anymore, so a new VA may need to be chosen for Al (as much as I hate to say that; I love Aaron!). But other than that, I think the rest of the dub cast will be great for the new series. Since yes, I'm with the many that say the FMA dub is one of the best (I never watch FMA in Japanese; I seriously love the dub that much Anime hyper).
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:52 pm Reply with quote
I'll add another fan of FMA's dub. 3rd favorite dub of all time, right after Cowboy Bebop and FLCL.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:02 pm Reply with quote
RogueJedi86 wrote:
Then again, on the Funimation thing, they never did license any of the FMA OVAs(that I know of), so who knows if Funimation wants more.


There's been recent news that they've started dubbing those. Not that they're all that great, except for the Chibi one.

Anyways, I'm in the minority in saying that I'm happy that they're changing the composer. The BGM for FMA is just "meh" for me.
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I do agree that FMA has got to be one of the best English Dubs ever. I like the Japanese but I would have to say that I prefer The English Dub than the original Japanese. I love Paku Romi but I agree that she makes Ed sound like a girl... and Vic did an amazing job making him sound more like a boy.

Anyways... I am so excited about this new anime. I still don't understand all the people not wanting a new anime. I personally am thrilled if its a manga adaptation. (or any adptation) I just love FMA and can't get enough of it. There are so many characters that you never got to see in the first anime, which I was a little upset over.

I am looking forward to seeing how this anime goes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:25 pm Reply with quote
penguintruth wrote:
Others were just plain bad, like Chris Patton's flat Greed or Dameon Clarke's "generic bad guy voice"-ed Scar. No, there are some good performances, but this dub is way too uneven to be considered one of the best.


I didn't think Greed was too bad, but I'm so happy to see that someone else agrees with me on Scar. Dameon Clarke sounded like he was bored out of his mind through the whole performance.

On the subject of Ed, of course you'll see me take the side that Paku Romi's Ed was better, since she's my God, but I think the dub lost a lot of Ed's actual character in order to make him into viewer-attracting fangirl bait. He's an entirely different person in the dub, and I find the Japanese character a lot more tolerable and far less obnoxious. Plus Ed's songfiles are like woah awesome, and Vic cursed the world with that absolutely painful version of Bratja, so there Razz

And hey, masculine? Was I the only one who thought that Vic's verison of Ed crying actually sounded more girly than the version actually done by a woman?

Really, the only actors in the dub whose performances I really enjoyed were Christine Auten, Travis Willingham, and Colleen Clinkenbeard. Everyone else was either 'meh', or (in the case of Caitlin Glass especially) made me want to murder the character very slowly and grotesquely.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:07 pm Reply with quote
This news has got me really hyped, and I'm actually going to go out on a limb here and say it's a good thing that they are mixing up the staff. Not because I didn't think the first series was up to par - far from that, the original is one of my all time favorites, and I think it did a wonderful job of creating its own storyline while staying true to the essence of the manga, even covering a lot of themes better than the manga actually has, as somebody else has already said. I don't begrudge anybody from the original staff/cast a single bit - in fact, I praise them all.

But this is a new series, and it really needs to go in a new direction, lest it feel like a rehashing of the original, and a cheap attempt to cash in on the fact that Hiromu Arakawa has given them more material to animate. I know a lot of people are also afraid that this is somehow going to drag down the original series, and while I don't think anything could spoil the original series for me, I can see where they're coming from. This series needs to differentiate itself from the original as much as possible while still staying true to the themes and the story. They need to inarguably be two separate entities, which is a big challenge, since they both have the same source material. And while the story differs enough on its own, it's still going to be very reminiscent of the original series if the same exact sound track is used, so, personally, I think bringing in a new composer is a very smart move. As long as they do the job capably, I have absolutely no problem with it. It would be nice if Akira Senju reworked some of Michiru Oshima's pieces into his, though. If done correctly, I'm sure it could work very nicely. Hell, I can already see myself getting the chills from hearing a piece of the ost flare up cryptically in this new musical setting. It would be so much better than just the same old thing.

I do, however, get most of the original cast to reprise their roles. In both the Japanese version and the dub. I am one of those who is of the opinion that the FMA dub is fantastic. Certainly one of the best I've heard. I couldn't disagree more about Ed sounding "disinterested," Vic's performance often gave me the chills, I thought he nailed it. And it's very clear that Vic was anything but disinterested in this role, regardless of whether or not that came through in his performance. His passion for the role came through for me, but I guess it strikes different people differently, as will anything of this nature. Admittedly, I also dislike Vic's person of Bratja, if it's any consolation Razz How can you possibly replace a bunch of Russian choir boys? They gave that song the perfect touch. But anyways!

Aaron Dismuke's situation worries me a lot, though - if he isn't the counterpart to Vic's Ed, that really does throw the whole equation off, almost to the point where we might as well really just recast everyone, for me(although I really can't see Vic giving up Ed very easily at all). I guess I can't say that until I've heard what his replacements might sound like, though - or what he might still be able to do with his Al voice, even if it does seem bleak. Caitlin Glass, I'll cave on - she's a wonderful voice actress, but she really could do to make Winry a little less obnoxious, especially since Winry's role is a bit more serious and expanded in the manga.

Now, the way I read this article, it seems like they're doing a total rebuild of the series.

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Aniplex producer Ryo Oyama said that the production began on the series around last spring, and Irie added that the script for the 18th episode had been written as of December.


Now, while there are some differences between the manga and the original anime early on, the major turning point for the anime came at its halfway mark, which is obviously not episode 18. I doubt they'd go in and just rework the few episodes where the other differences occurred. This has got to be a rebuild from the ground up. It would be so disjointed, otherwise, and I think this is a good call. Gives it more of a chance to differentiate itself.

Also, somewhat off topic here, but since that "leaked document" that BONES originally refuted was correct about FMA 2, as well as its director, anybody else think that the information about Darker Than Black could also have been correct? I certainly hope so! Man, this is getting me psyched.
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