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ggqt



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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 12:15 am Reply with quote
So what's the deal with Japan and sex?
In most American TV show, even PG ones there is always sex. I could give a pretty long list of them, but I can maybe think of three anime where there is sex and it is relevant to the plot or story. Short of hentais that is. Even animes based on erotic visual novels don't have sex in them.

One I can think of off the top of my head is Ef: tale of memories, Oh and Shakugan no Shana that one episode.

Is it like a cultural thing or something? There are tons of incestual relationships all over anime, but sex itself is a no no? Makes very little sense to me.

Can anyone else think of an anime with sex in it? I'm sure there are some out there just not nearly as many as american TV shows.

[EDIT:The thread title is the way it is for a specific reason, if people can't figure out it's about sex in anime while on an anime website on it's anime forum they're clearly not very smart, I have talked to other mods about it's title. Stop changing it. -ggqt]

[COUNTER-EDIT: Sorry, but that's not a judgment call that you get to make. Undo changes that Mods have made for good reasons, and do that repeatedly, and there are consequences. - Key]


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 12:17 am Reply with quote
It's heavily implied to the point of blatancy in spoiler[Ai Yori Aoshi.] I highly doubt they were just snuggling tightly at night.
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 12:23 am Reply with quote
From the top of my head right now, I would say Rumbling Hearts, Berserk, Tsukihime, Itzaura na Kiss (implied and most likely in two episodes), Mirai Nikki (dat Happy End), Rec (heavily implied), and Saikano.

Most of these are ones I remember from the top of my head, there are most likely more Wink
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:02 am Reply with quote
Oh how could I have forgotten Mirai Nikki, that was the best awful show ever, and one of my favorites.

But I don't remember sex in Tsukihime, Itzaura na Kiss, or Saikano; and I have not watched Rumbling Hearts or Berserk so I can't say on those. Also Rec was not really implied , they said they had sex when he tried to do it again.

Now that I'm thinking about it I'm not sure what to count F/SN as, I'm not sure if I'm suppose to assume the part where they play pictures of dragons in the shed is them having a three way.


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:03 am Reply with quote
Off the top of my head I seem to recall sex shown in Beserk, Gantz, Mardock Scramble, RIN- Daughters of Mnemosyne, and some implied sex in Strawberry Panic!. Oh wait almost forgot Kite.

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:08 am Reply with quote
Clannad: After Story definitely had it. It wasn't ever shown but it is pretty easy to confirm. spoiler[They did have a baby after all...]

I can't really seem to remember any other shows that I've seen that have had implied or seen sex besides the ones that have already been said. I'll edit this post if I ever remember anymore.
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:24 am Reply with quote
ggqt wrote:
But I don't remember sex in Tsukihime, Itzaura na Kiss, or Saikano; and I have not watched Rumbling Hearts or Berserk so I can't say on those. Also Rec was not really implied , they said they had sex when he tried to do it again.

Tsukihime: happened in episode 11.

Itzaura na Kiss: I can't remember the episodes but I know that they had a child in later episodes. It was also Kotoko's birthday that they first had the experience I believe.

Saikano: was doing one of the later episodes, which I believe was in episode 11 after a tragic incident revolving another character where the two main characters decided to "start over".
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:26 am Reply with quote
I forgot about B Gata H kei, that had sex. There are few more out there than I thought. From the ones listen so far the ones with sex seem to be the older ones.

But One-Eye, pretty sure Kite was a hentai, and I don't remember any sex in Strawberry Panic!, I could be wrong it's been long time, refresh my memory.

As for Saikano I know they had a "close" relationship after the tragic event but I'm pretty sure they never had sex, even more so after she turned into the sky or what ever she did.

But you are right about Tsukihime, I just watched it. totally forgot.


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:31 am Reply with quote
Totally thought this was a spambot thread until I actually clicked it...

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So what's the deal with Japan and sex?
Hard to say, but with the whole aging population / demographic collapse going on, Japanese youth interest in and having of sex is at a low these days.

Also, there's the otaku purity fetish / waifu factor to consider. When a manga like Kannagi can cause an uproar just for a backstory mention of having an ex-boyfriend (thus implying that she may have had sex during the hundreds of years she's been alive), creators are hesitant about including in-universe male sexual partners for their female characters. Heck, even rumors of a character's voice actress being in a relationship can cause fanatics to decry the character in question "second-hand." (Yet these same otaku have no qualms about creating and consuming doujinshi where the same girls are subjected to all kinds of depravities.)

And when it comes to manga and light novels, anime based on those sources generally don't adapt enough of the story for the characters to reach that stage in their relationships. Cases in point: Sakura Diaries and Suzuka. Sex happens later in the manga, but not during the anime.


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I can maybe think of three anime where there is sex and it is relevant to the plot or story. Short of hentai that is. Even anime based on erotic visual novels don't have sex in them.
There are more out there, Just in terms of "based on erogames," I can think of:

Yosuga no Sora (quite significant to most of the stories)
School Days (driving force of the conclusion)
Popotan (minor, but present)
Lime-Colored War Tales (as a literal catalyst - Don't ask, just watch the show. Also occurs in flashbacks.)
Soul Link
Touka Gettan (among other things, contains some incest-related backstory events)

EDIT: Mashiro-iro Symphony - highly implied at the end of ep 11. Quite tasteful, feels like a natural adaptation of the game route they chose to adapt.

But a fair number of erogames (like the KEY ones) only have those scenes because PC gamers expect them, thus they're easy to cut out for all-ages console and anime adaptations.

From other sources:
Koi Kaze
Revolutionary Girl Utena
Gantz (if attempted rape counts)
Moonlight Mile (Haven't seen the show, but there's a whole lot of it, apparently)
RahXephon (movie version at least)
Neon Genesis Evangelion (one infamous scene that caused sponsorship/budget cuts)
Aki Sora (okay, this one's only technically not hentai)
I Dream of Mimi (same deal)
Fushigi Yuugi (It's Yuu Watase, expect it)
Ceres, Celestial Legend (same deal as FY)
Genshiken (implied via blackmail)
Paradise Kiss
Nana
Honey & Clover (I think there's some implied offscreen anyway)
Astarotte's Toy (backstory)
Aishiteru ze Baby (heavily implied, though I may be thinking of the manga)
Planetes (offscreen, prior to epilogue)
Kimagure Orange Road 2nd Movie
Rin: Daughters of Mnemosyne spoiler[lesbian sex in exchange for information]
His & Her Circumstances

So maybe you're looking in the wrong genres. Shoujo/josei works may have more sexual content simply because they don't exclusively cater to the purity-obsessed male otaku demographic.

*Some of these were posted by others while I was typing.

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I forgot about B Gata H kei, that had sex.
It did? More like repeated tease/fail attempts to have sex, but I guess having characters actually try to do it puts a show way above the average.

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:32 am Reply with quote
Let's see:

-Kare Kano has a scene with spoiler[Yukino and Arima] which is tastefully handled.
-Mnemosyne has plenty of it with lesbian encounters, spoiler[an orgy in the second-to-last episode] and a consensual scene between spoiler[Rin and her old love] in the show's final episode. Like watching softcore porn on Cinemax yet with graphic violence and torture added to the mix.
-Kemonozume has failed attempts between Toshihiko and Yuka because of the latter transforming into a monster whenever she gets aroused.
-Strongly implied in Bokurano with a scene featuring spoiler[Chizu and her teacher that led the former to become pregnant.]
-Happens in Koi Kaze with spoiler[Koshiro and Nanoka in the second-to-last episode.]
-Is implied to have happened between spoiler[Milly and Wolfwood in the latter's final episode appearance of Trigun before being killed off.]
-Happens with spoiler[George/ Yukari and Miwako/ Arashi] in Paradise Kiss.
-A good number of scenes between couples occur in Nana with some events in the series exploring the ramifications of said sexual relationships.
-Happens in Silent Mobius between spoiler[Katsumi and Roy with the former becoming pregnant and the latter being killed off the day after their night together.]
-Brief scene between spoiler[Oba and a prostitute] in the No Longer Human story of Aoi Bungaku Series before spoiler[their suicide attempt.]
-The 2009 anime adaptation of classic Japanese literary piece The Tale of Genji. No surprise considering it retells the many romantic affairs of Hikaru Genji. Wink
-Arjuna has an episode focused on the subject where spoiler[Cindy retells her painful experience of her mother having sex while she was in her mother's womb and a later failed attempt with Juna and Tokio.]
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:41 am Reply with quote
Oh, how could I forget Megazone 23. That has the best awkward sex scenes ever.
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:42 am Reply with quote
I forgot NANA as well, one of the best series I've watched Cool
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:47 am Reply with quote
ggqt wrote:
I forgot about B Gata H kei, that had sex. There are few more out there than I thought. From the ones listen so far the ones with sex seem to be the older ones.

But One-Eye, pretty sure Kite was a hentai, and I don't remember any sex in Strawberry Panic!, I could be wrong it's been long time, refresh my memory.
If I remember correctly there were 3 versions of Kite. I think one version has some nudity and implied sex (16+ age rating, not Hentai, I think) the other 2 (Director's cut, and Uncut) had sex and rape. As far as Strawberry Panic! I seem to recall the equestrian (prince-type gal) ending up naked with another gal and the main lead ending up with the Etoile also in a similar situation at the end. Its been a long time since I've seen both of these so my old brain might be turning soft and I might not be remembering it right but I'm sure someone will pop in and correct me, if my memory circuits have gotten crossed.

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:49 am Reply with quote
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Aishiteru ze Baby (heavily implied, though I may be thinking of the manga)


There is a scene of spoiler[making out and fondling with Kokoro and Kippei] in the anime. But it's implied spoiler[they truly don't hitch it off] until later in the manga.

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As for Saikano I know they had a "close" relationship after the tragic event but I'm pretty sure they never had sex, even more so after she turned into the sky or what ever she did.


Shuji and Chise's relationship spoiler[had reached the point of consummating by the second-to-last episode of the series.
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If you want to see a more graphic and longer depiction of the scene, read the manga. Twisted Evil


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:56 am Reply with quote
Huh. guess I am watching the wrong genres. There are a lot more then I though, but most of them are pretty old. Like I said earlier. I tend to stay away from the older ones because I'm a graphics whore.
I wonder what happened to deter it from the anime field.

But what sex was there is NGE, The one with Misato and Kaji? I did not realize that was so infamous.

The sex in B Gata H kei was in like the last episode in the love hotel.
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