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dtm42
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One of the problems I had with Towa no Quon is how preachy it is. spoiler[It claims that killing is wrong even though Quon was entirely justified in killing the guys who destroyed his village. He's still moping about it centuries later, and when the children learned that he had killed murderers they freak out thinking he is a monster. Um, hello, there's nothing wrong with executing murderers who had just wiped out your friends and family. What was he supposed to do? Let them go so they could burn down another village?]
The show in general had its moments but it suffered from frequent bouts of bad writing, some of them quite glaring. I dropped it after episode four, as the the final (though not the biggest) straw for me was the episode's cliffhanger. spoiler[It tried to make a big deal out of how Quon had apparently died even though we know he is capable of regenerating from those wounds.] There was just no tension in it. |
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Anime World Order
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[straightens up such that my faded "Worst Episode Ever" T-shirt which clearly no longer fits due to my expanded, now only partially covered gut]
AHEM, I'm AFRAID that's no GUNDAM with the serial numbers filed off in the penultimate episode of Golgo 13! The jungle setting combined with the size, aesthetic, and name of the robot ("Armored Suit SDR2") is no doubt intended to evoke Chirico Cuvie and a Scopedog from Sunrise's Armored Trooper VOTOMS! [discards pedantic nerd outfit, replaces with standard attire of bootleg DBZ club shirt featuring Trunks with sword and the word "Chobits" written in kanji over it] As I noted in my Otaku USA review: "perhaps the only thing better than a 'Perfect Soldier' is a 'Perfect Machine of Snipe'!" But man. At long last, the day has come. The day when once again, all of the Golgo 13 anime ever made has been released in English in the US. Whatever can the future offer us as we wait an inevitable decade for Duke Togo to return to us? It's up to you once more, Jigen Daisuke. |
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Mohawk52
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Dessa
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The word isn't even "replicant", it's replica. Which is a perfectly common word used for something that resembles the original, but isn't, which is what the replicas are. "Clone" would imply a) exact duplicas (which they aren't), and b) only living beings (which they aren't). "Clone" is not the appropriate word to use, "replica" is.
Also, the name of the planet is Auldrant. |
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erinfinnegan
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Although I do agree with your point that it can be saccharine at times, I'm going to disagree with the general forum assessment that episode two sucked. The boy who could talk to flowers ultimately spoiler[could not be saved and flipped out] because the other kids in the garden made fun of him. They were dicks to one of their own kind and he basically spoiler[went postal]. Between that and the fact that he spoiler[couldn't be saved] I thought it added a dark edge to the show.
I wasn't too big on the villain either, although my husband though he was effective. I've seen less believable villains, sure, but he wasn't that scary either. The way they handled the villain at the end reminded me of The Legend of Korra, or the end of The Last Airbender (not the movie). That is to say spoiler[they were too chicken to kill him].
I've never seen VOTOMS.
My husband wanted to work a Ridley Scott jab in there...
I swear the subs said "replicants". Also, they looked alive to me! Maybe my mind wandered during the explanation...
I swear I looked for the name of the planet for several minutes, unsuccessfully. Eventually I just had to turn the column in. I do try to get these things right... |
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Veers
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I could be wrong but I think Dessa meant that in TotA, non-living things can be "replicated" using the same fonon voodoo, not that the replica characters aren't alive (and so you wouldn't use the word "clone" to describe a copy of something inorganic). As for replica vs replicant, I'm not sure what the official subs for the show say, but in the game they definitely use the word "replica" both in text and in the vocal work. |
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belvadeer
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Planet Symphonia? My eyebrow is raised. You're thinking of the wrong game.
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Dessa
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I never saw "replicant" in the subs anywhere. And yes, there were inorganic replicas. Like, say, the entire area the final battle was held, which was a replica of the island of Hod (where Van and Guy had been born).
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eyeresist
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Are you a replican or a replicant?
I've seen this weird doublethink about moral standards elsewhere, notably in Detective Conan, where some of the victims were absolute monsters, but there's never the slightest suggestion that their murder might have been righteous. I don't know whether this is simply an example of clashing tropes, or part of the Japanese conformist culture in which you have to espouse these opinions for the sake of social order. Or maybe it's just a requirement for "kids" shows. |
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