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Though I've only fully seen Kanon out of the three, would I be correct in assuming that Clannad is 'sadder' than the aforementioned but not quite so much as Air is?

Because in the end, these girls are barely more than pets, except they also happen to be physically not-there, or dying, or have some kind of crippling social handicap. And yet I can't stop watching. It's a sick addiction, I tell you.

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Because in the end, these girls are barely more than pets, except they also happen to be physically not-there, or dying, or have some kind of crippling social handicap. And yet I can't stop watching. It's a sick addiction, I tell you.

So true! And yes, there are other girls who like these shows. I'm one of them. ^_~

Granted, I don't envision too many guys pounding on the doors of Best Buy, begging for the last copy of this show, but I think there's something in the show that even male viewers could enjoy.

Zin5ki wrote:

Though I've only fully seen Kanon out of the three, would I be correct in assuming that Clannad is 'sadder' than the aforementioned but not quite so much as Air is?

I would say that Clannad is the least 'sad' of the three if you are talking about the first half alone. After Story, however, takes things to an entirely different level. After Story wound up hitting my emotions with the same impact as Air, which is something I would have not thought possible a few years ago. But that probably has a lot to do with the fact that I am a parent (two girls), and your opinion may vary.

Dear God, can we please stop having movies with these idiotic female characters? Can we please stop having movies where the only purpose in these women's lives is to get married? Can we please not have movies where this oh-so-quirky girl can't manage her finances to save her life? Yeah, yeah, “if you don't like it, don't watch it!” Fine, but seriously, guys. These movies are destroying America.

KrisEllieOphi wrote:

Clannad is very sweet and cute. Kanon (the original, not the remake) is still my favorite of the bunch, I think. Though it's been a long time since I've seen it. Clannad is still good; mostly because I found Kotomi (the book worm girl) to be the cutest most darling thing I'd seen in a while.

It seems rare to find fans who prefer the original KANON, but I liked it better too, because the remake seemed too padded out to me--but perhaps it's because I saw the original first; if I had seen them reversed, maybe I would think the original was too sparse and rushed. As a big fan of Japanese noise in the 90s, I found Kotomi's noise-violin very entertaining.

I find it a little funnily ironic that Bamboo has a problem with women stereotypes in American films (don't worry, I do too, as I've also grown tired of men being portrayed as horny idiots), and yet is a fan of Air/Kanon/Clannad even though all its female characters are portrayed as easy and demure and something that needs to be protected.

I was just about to mention the same thing. I don't doubt that the movie Bamboo mentioned is utter drek, but given what I've heard about KyoAni's titles, it does come across as maybe a bit hypocritical. (I freely admit that I've never seen any of them, and have no desire to whatsoever.) I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't those sort of shows chock-full of tragedy-porn-inducing cute girls with eyes as big as saucers who primarily exist to please whatever milquetoast male lead they're all paired with? I wouldn't call that doing much to promote the female gender myself.

I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't those sort of shows chock-full of tragedy-porn-inducing cute girls with eyes as big as saucers who primarily exist to please whatever milquetoast male lead they're all paired with? I wouldn't call that doing much to promote the female gender myself.

I find it a little funnily ironic that Bamboo has a problem with women stereotypes in American films (don't worry, I do too, as I've also grown tired of men being portrayed as horny idiots), and yet is a fan of Air/Kanon/Clannad even though all its female characters are portrayed as easy and demure and something that needs to be protected. Is it because these series are animated and more abstract and from Japan? I've no intention of seeing Clannad, not because it's sub-only, but I couldn't get through Kanon. I liked Air, but it took the passive-and-easy-girls thing to a further extreme in Kanon, where the lead guy's personality kept changing scene to scene depending on what power he had over the girl characters or show some level where he's in charge over over them. I'd rather just be happy with Air and check out other series.