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Jedi Master
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It's good to see those ministers doing some good for a change. 
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Dante80
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What they did was the exact opposite. lol |
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Gon*Gon
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I just still can't wrap my ahead around the fact that they needed to do a study just to determine this.
Don't studies often cost tax payers money? Did they use tax payer money to determine something everyone already knows? Maybe I should fund a study to reveal that puppies are more adorable than kittens.
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dewlwieldthedarpachief
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You more or less answer your own question. Nothing is determined in any meaningful sense until empirical and measurable evidence is acquired. Especially where child abuse is concerned I would prefer not to take anything at face value, which is what prosecutors for crimes against fictional humanity seem to be doing. |
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egoist
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You don't say?
Oh look, I just killed a bunch of cops in Counter-Strike, time to go slaughter a few in real life. |
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dewlwieldthedarpachief
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I should hastily add that one study doesn't close the book on the matter; one need look no farther than video game violence for a quagmire of conflicting reports.
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Polycell
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It's the same with spanking: violent people are more likely to be attracted to violent video games, just like future problem cases will tend to do things to get themselves spanked more often as children.
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Shadowrun20XX
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It's a primitive mindset.
Those that know how to find it , don't need it. Those that need it are the real problem. It's sad that nerds have access to un-describable horrors that others have fetish for. Isn't it. Better to art than the real thing. |
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Mohawk52
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Mr. Handley's appeal lawyers should see this. It might get his sentence reduced.
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eyeofthetiger
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Mods and staff are really something else. |
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revolutionotaku
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I'm a member of the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund.
I've just forward this to them by e-mail immediately. It is now on their website and will probably use it as a very important piece of evidence in another case against Lolicon/Shotacon. Here's a link to their response. http://cbldf.org/homepage/danish-report-discredits-link-between-cartoons-and-child-sex-abuse/ Help spread the word for artistic free speech. |
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Ojamajo LimePie
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They're even try to remove licensed eroge like Yumemiru Kusuri. They think Nekoko is lolicon. 
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UtenaAnthy
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Oh, please. I'm not saying any kid who gets swatted on the butt ever will turn into a serial killer but there is a huge difference between claiming that viewing of fictional violent or sexual media will lead to rape or other violent crimes and stating that traumatic experiences of physical abuse during childhood can increase one's later propensity towards violent crime. Plus, if you're from the u.s., you are, along with somalia, yet to ratify the u.n. convention on the human rights of children because a bunch of religious fundamentalists want to be able to control their children through violent abuse. I got slapped on the butt once as a kid, and it made me feel humiliated and I still remember how painful it was and if I'd had to go through that every day as a kid I'd probably be far more twisted that I am now. Plus, spanking kids on the butt is sexual abuse, I mean, we went through generations in my country of kids getting caned bare bottomed in school, while rape within marriage was legal and homosexuality was illegal. I don't see what's so moral about that generation of adults. Children should not have to live in fear of their parents. Those hits on the back of the head that some parents do? Would have given me a pounding migraine as a child, as I was prone to them. |
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Polycell
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My point was strictly what I said: spanking someone doesn't turn them into a problem case just as violent video games don't make violent people. My point has no relation to whether spanking's abusive or not nor any treaties(I personally haven't signed any anyway).
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UtenaAnthy
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Thankyou for clarifying that, but I honestly do not believe that traumatic experiences in childhood cannot lead someone to be more likely to become abusive themself, especially considering what I know about the significantly increased likelihood of childhood sexual abuse survivors going on to do those things themselves (which is not to say that all or even a majority will, but there is a correlation). I do not want to teach people that they have no ability to treat others better than they were treated, but in addition to my ethical objections to corporal punishment purely for the child's own sake, I think it is important to stack the deck against people becoming abusive towards others, by not abusing them. Someone playing violent video games because they enjoy them is not the same as someone being corporally punished, which is something they will not enjoy, and find painful and possibly traumatic. I'm aware this isn't the original point of the thread, but these distinctions are important, much like pointing out that unlike animal cruelty and arson, bedwetting is not an indicator of future sociopathy. |
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