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Blood-
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...and my search for an actual intelligent Chagen46 post continues. |
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kpk
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Aeon Flux ISN'T an anime... 
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Chagen46
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Different opinion = stupid now? Amazing.
Haruhi is a horrible mary sue of a character who never actually develops and manages to make the entire show shit. Like, I love every aspect of it besides her, but she alone manages to eradicate all of the positives of the show. I suffered through the first three light novels before saying "f*ck this". |
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Blood-
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Actually, stupid opinion = stupid now. Not so amazing. I happen to adore Haruhi personally, but I understand the hate she engenders. At least she's not just a cookie-cutter clichéd type like far too many anime characters. You are letting your personal antipathy of a character cloud your opinion of the entire show, which is always the sign of a banal, un-analytical, trite, third-rate "mind."
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Riddley
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Actually Aeon Flux IS an anime since, you know, anime = any animated show/movie etc since it's the japanese word for animation. So are any Disney films.
Just had to throw that spanner in the works lol |
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kpk
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dragoneyes001
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Haruhi as an anime is a big snore fest. couldn't sit through three entire episodes even watching parts of some was just too "yawn" for me. you loving a series doesn't make someone else's opinion of it any less valid. look at naruto for example as shipuden (sp?) progressed to sasuke being unpickled from his barrel the show (some wanted the main story back) turned into a total crap fest. some loved it some like myself didn't its an opinion yours or mine doesn't make the other invalid or stupid because they differ. |
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@ dragoneyes001. Yeah, duh. Thanks for stating the painfully obvious. Cowboy Bebop didn't do it for me. Mostly it left me cold and kinda bored a lot of the time. However, because I'm not a complete twit, I can actually recognize that and still not dismiss Cowboy Bebop as a "shitty" show. I can recognize the craft and skill that went into making it even if, ultimately, none of it had much impact on me.
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egoist
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In that case Zoidberg is one of my favourite anime characters. Gonna have to re-think my top lists... Whoop whoop whoop whoop (V) (;,,;) (V) |
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penguintruth
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We should all be lucky to know somebody like Haruhi who will inject some fun into our lives. Also, Haruhi being a "Mary Sue" is the point of the show. |
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Dorcas_Aurelia
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Maybe if we were Japanese, but for English speakers, the word "anime" means animated show/movie from Japan, specifically. |
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Chagen46
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That's no excuse. A Mary Sue is a Mary Sue. An intentional mary sue is still as bad as an unintentional one (hell, it's arguably worse because the author is flat-out admitting that they're terrible at writing but try to save face for it). |
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penguintruth
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No. The character is written intentionally that way to become a catalyst to the other characters' reactions. Not because the writer can't write, but because it's an interesting premise to be played with, that this girl can will anything into existence and the absurdity of it all. Your argument would have weight if the consequences of being a "Mary Sue" were never addressed, or their effects were minimal, but it's examined rather thoroughly. The premise doesn't work if she isn't the way she is. Besides which, Haruhi has a certain charm to her. |
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HaruhiToy
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Sense. This posting makes none. |
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Chagen46
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Of course you'd be biased, you have the name of the most aggravating character in the history of anime in your username.
Haruhi is a mary sue. She's an obnoxious bitch who gets away with everything she does and acts like a complete asshole to literally every other character but never gets called out for it. Mary sues are bad writing. It doesn't matter if you "intentionally" made a mary sue. It's still bad writing. You don't get to make a badly-written work and then go "HAH HAH, I intentionally made it bad, so it's not actually bad at all!". No. You don't get to do that. It's still shitty writing. |
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