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"Top 50 Anime of All Time," according to JapanCinema.

Of course you'd be biased, you have the name of the most aggravating character in the history of anime in your username.

Haruhi is a mary sue. Mary sues are bad writing. It doesn't matter if you "intentionally" made a mary sue. It's still bad writing.

Chagen46 wrote:

Of course you'd be biased, you have the name of the most aggravating character in the history of anime in your username. Haruhi is a mary sue. Mary sues are bad writing. It doesn't matter if you "intentionally" made a mary sue. It's still bad writing.

Except that TMoHS isn't badly written, it's clever and thought provoking.

I agree with that. I love Tanigawa's style when it comes to writing.

The problem is that Haruhi is literally SO aggravating and annoying that I just gave up on the series. I love literally everything in this series except her.

Maybe Haruhi isn't on there because it's a shitty show with the WORST title character ever.

Of course you'd be biased, you have the name of the most aggravating character in the history of anime in your username.

Haruhi is a mary sue. She's an obnoxious bitch who gets away with everything she does and acts like a complete asshole to literally every other character but never gets called out for it. Mary sues are bad writing. It doesn't matter if you "intentionally" made a mary sue. It's still bad writing.

You don't get to make a badly-written work and then go "HAH HAH, I intentionally made it bad, so it's not actually bad at all!". No. You don't get to do that. It's still shitty writing.

Haruhi is a mary sue. She's an obnoxious bitch who gets away with everything she does and acts like a complete asshole to literally every other character but never gets called out for it. Mary sues are bad writing. It doesn't matter if you "intentionally" made a mary sue. It's still bad writing.

Mary Sue as Protagonist You Don't Like
An alarmingly widespread use of the term, and one reason a lot of people feel that the term has lost whatever useful meaning it once had. There are a lot of reasons why this usage is so common. Most obviously, as rants about and mockery of the Mary Sue phenomenon became increasingly well-known in fandom, it became increasingly easy to throw the term around as Flame Bait. The fact that so many of the other definitions are highly subjective doesn't help.
People who accuse characters of being Mary Sues rarely admit that this is the definition they're using. The best way to tell is if their justifications for the character's Sue-hood are all based on shoehorning, Alternate Character Interpretation, misrepresenting the sources, and Accentuate the Negative. Describe any non-fanfic character as a Canon Sue, and you'll be lucky if no one accuses you of using this definition of the term.

But he also lets her off when she's being harmless and if it'll make her happy (and often him byproxy).

Chagen46 wrote:

Haruhi is a mary sue. She's an obnoxious bitch who gets away with everything she does and acts like a complete asshole to literally every other character but never gets called out for it. Mary sues are bad writing. It doesn't matter if you "intentionally" made a mary sue. It's still bad writing.

I could point out the flaws here such as the stupidity of this statement, the inarticulate nature, the misuse of the term "mary sue" and the absolute unfamilarity of the show but let's just assume this guy's right. He's not but let's just say he is. He couldn't be more wrong but let's just say he has a point.

End of argument.

(I still don't see how Street Fighter anime is on that.... I know, opinions, but really, Street Fighter?)

People say she gets better over the course of the series, but I already suffered through the first three books. Sorry, Tanigawa, but I just don't have the time to keep reading.

Who the heck likes the Street Fighter anime though? I don't know that person.

Dude, if you don't like the character, why would you read three books of her?

That's just masochistic.