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NEWS: Dragonball Evolution Opens at #8 with US$4.8 Million


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Otaku_X



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:44 pm Reply with quote
I loved it. Clearly not as good as the manga or anime, but it was still an entertaining movie. I was at the first showing in my town, and I'm actually considering seeing it again, and I will DEFFINATLY get the Blu-ray when it comes out. Obviously there were problems, and one plot hole that bothered me, but I KNEW it would be changed, and I was able to go to the movie with an open mind. And, in doing so, I enjoyed the movie.
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sykoeent



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:44 pm Reply with quote
Wow... I TOLD YOU SO! Hannah Montana would DESTROY DB:E in the theatres! hahahahahah I didn't even know it was out... I bet it's out of the theatres by next weekend!
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Zac
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:45 pm Reply with quote
J-Syxx wrote:

Yeah, criticizing people for disliking a crappy movie. You sure are the "smart" one who doesn't make stupid, pointless comments all right. You expect otaku to support everything that sucks right?


I wrote the review for this site. I gave the movie an F.

That doesn't mean the YEAH OTAKU WIN HA HA SUCK IT FOX gloating isn't retarded.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:48 pm Reply with quote
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Which is where I saw the ads for Forbidden Kingdom about 1 month before that movie opened.


Forbidden Kingdom had actors as the stars who weren't just popular with children.

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In America we can't have little kids growing up on their own in the forest.


Someone hasn't seen Narnia or that "Where the Wild Things Are" trailer.... Rolling Eyes

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When my daughter watched Pokemon back in the late 1990's the first thing that ran thru my head was where was Ash's parents?


Probably collecting their own Pokemon.

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So as much as we all love cute little innocent Goku, he doesn't really translate to live action.


If little Superman translates to live-action ok, then so can little Goku.

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So we jump up the story to where the 2nd Piccalo appeared where Goku WAS about 20 yrs old, wasn't he?


More like 14-15.

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Zac's never been a DB fan by his own admission, so no shock he hated it.


Yes, but he recognizes why DB is popular with its fanbase, which is why he hated the movie, since it did not do bring any of those elements into the final product.

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Compared to other martial arts films where we need to waste a certain amount of screen time on the master training the disciple & thus lose valuable screen time, no.


That's kind of ironic for you to say that, since that's a primary source of inspiration for DB.

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I love Kung Fu Hustle, but at least we didn't get that version of martial arts here (campy)


Yeah, who needs good production values? Razz
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mdo7



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:59 pm Reply with quote
OMG,

Would everybody stop hating the movie just because it doesn't follow the manga/anime. It's called a adaption, it means it won't be 100% true it can be close but not true. This is what I hate about people who complain too much. So by everbody logics, should we hate:

James Bond-You only Live Twice was the first Bond movie to deviate from the original novels. What about Quantum of Solace, The Spy who loved me, and even Casino Royale. Those have different plots, settings, and plot devices from the novel. Should we hate James Bond also?

DC and Marvel Superheroes- Let see The Dark Knight, should we hate that? Harvey Dent in that movie didn't have multiple personality disorder like in the comic book. Also, the Joker was not created by a toxic accident, he's just another common criminal with psyche problem. I remember hearing a lot of people complain about the Fantastic Four movie because Dr Doom became a villain just to get back at Reed instead of just being a villain like in the comic book.

Books-Ok so any movie based on book should be hated right. Did movie based on Tom Clancy's book suck, right? So, did changing Middle Eastern Terrorists to Neo-Nazis in The Sum of all Fears was not good according to many people logics. Let me see, even when Shakespeare became a movie, they had changes in there also. I guess Shakespeare as a movie is dumb, right.

games-this is what I hate from many people. OK, Uwe Boll is probably the worse director (except Postal which I found to be his best work and faithful to the game because of Running with Scissors's involvement). God, I know how many of you complain too much about it. So what, it's called a adapation. Don't expect it to be too close. I found Resident Evil to be memorable, they made a lot of nod to the game in the movie. Super Mario Bros and Street Fighter the movie may not have been the greatest, but I still like it. Silent Hill was the closest to the game as ever, and so did Tomb Raider. Stop complaing about the movie not being close to the game, it's called a adaptation. Live with it.

Come on, even Battle Royale 2 was not that good from my opinion. Transformers even had different style, but it still did a good job. I rather watch the movie because how good it is, not because of how close it is to the medium adapted from it. There are good movie and bad movie. I thought they did their best of adapting Dragonball into a movie.
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Zac
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:15 pm Reply with quote
People don't hate it because it isn't a faithful adaptation, people hate it because it's a really, really bad movie.
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Otaku_X



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:17 pm Reply with quote
Zac wrote:
People don't hate it because it isn't a faithful adaptation, people hate it because it's a really, really bad movie.


But most people aren't saying "I didn't like it because it was a bad movie" they're saying they didn't like it because they changed things.
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Jedi General



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:43 pm Reply with quote
Dragonball: Evolution bombing is all Zac's fault. You all know that, right? If he hadn't written that scathing review, then this movie would have been #1 at the global box office this weekend.
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Shepperoni



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:49 pm Reply with quote
Well, I remained optimistic until the very end. But I couldn't enjoy that movie one bit. As much as I wanted to like it, it was just a bad movie. And this is coming from both a movie lover and an otaku's perspective.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:51 pm Reply with quote
Captain, I'm detecting massive amounts of FAIL in this sector! Anime hyper
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Tenchi



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:51 pm Reply with quote
Since this film would have had to attract much more than the otaku niche to be a box-office success, I really don't think a small number of hardcore Dragonball Z fans boycotting it because it looked to be a piss-poor adaptation of the source material had all that much impact. The mainstream American public just avoided it because they hadn't heard of it because of minimal marketing, or, if they had heard of it, because what they'd seen of it looked horrible on its own merits.

Also, I agree with Zac, it's really childish to gloat over this film's failure...




...even if the schadenfreude level is OVER 9000!
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kakoishii



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:58 pm Reply with quote
Jedi General wrote:
Dragonball: Evolution bombing is all Zac's fault. You all know that, right? If he hadn't written that scathing review, then this movie would have been #1 at the global box office this weekend.

Wow, I really hope you're joking. There was a good amount of people who felt the way Zac expressed in his "scathing" review prior to its creation. And let's not forget it wasn't simply the fans who didn't want to see this movie, the general public seems to not have been very impressed by it either.
Otaku_X wrote:
Zac wrote:
People don't hate it because it isn't a faithful adaptation, people hate it because it's a really, really bad movie.


But most people aren't saying "I didn't like it because it was a bad movie" they're saying they didn't like it because they changed things.

There are plenty of people who hate it for both of those reasons. For the people who hate it just for it being a live action anime adaptation, they are quite obviously asstards who now have DBE tote up for their example, which as bad as DBE is and as much as it deserves to be flout for being a terrible movie, now we have the unfortunate backlash of closed minded otaku and weeaboos who see this movie's failure as an example of why anime live action adaptations cannot work. This thinking is wrong. DBE failed because it was poorly written, poorly acted, poorly adverstised, and worked to alienate its built in fanbase while at the same time committing to be so mediocre, generic, and cliche it couldn't even garner the interest of the supposed mainstream it was aiming for. It's fine to take liberties and be creative with an adaptation, but all DBE did was take a marketable name and franchise, remove the foreign elements and replace it with stock formulas and cliches we've seen countless times in the past. It was plain lazy and for that reason it deserved to fail if for nothing else.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:05 pm Reply with quote
At least this movie was memorably bad. Street Fighter was just plain boring.
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GATSU



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:23 pm Reply with quote
mdo: Those good examples you cited stay true to the main ideas in the source material. DB: E does no such thing. As for BR 2, the director died in the middle of it, so there was no doubt it was going to be a troubled production.

Jedi: It would have bombed with or without Zac, though I bet he's actually proud if his opinion carries that much weight.

Tenchi: DB's fans are not small, as FUNimation's multiple dips of the show can attest. I imagine that's why FOX greenlit the flick in the first place, too.

kakoishii: They don't hate it for being a LA adaptation, but for being a LA Hollywood adaptation, since those usually tend to blow the loudest and most needlessly.
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bahamut623



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:34 pm Reply with quote
It came out this week? I thought it was next week.
I guess Fox just gave up on it? I only saw two commercials for it, and both times were like at 1 am on Adult Swim. I don't think they expected it to do well, but geeze, at least try to market it.
All things considered, #8 isn't all that bad for something that was barely marketed and had quite a bit of bad press.
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