Forum - View topicNEWS: Dragonball Evolution Opens at #8 with US$4.8 Million
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melonbread
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I wonder what the production cost was, nearly £30,000,000 gross revenue seems like a decent amount for a lower budget film.
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Tenchi
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I suspect the earlier reports of the budget being in the low nine digits were more accurate, and this $45 million number that's been reported these past couple of weeks is a very lowball estimate Fox reported when they already knew it would bomb hard at the North American box office to make the production seem like less of a fiasco than it actually is.
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fighterholic
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For your true guide to otaku spending please watch Genshiken. |
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dtm42
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1.00 GBP = 1.48475 USD It hasn't made £30,000,000 (not even close), as that would be USD44,542,500. Sorry, I'm just anal about currency. |
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Hon'ya-chan
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Yes. Your alone. The issue is that your having people that are completely unexperienced with the source material and expect them to pull rainbows outta their rear ends. And even if you have people that are experienced with the material beforehand, they think they have a personal right to remake said property into their own personal fanfiction smorgasbord (i'm looking at you Wachoski Brothers, Bay, and Anderson) How simple is it to stick to the basics of the franchise, and then adapt from there. Keep some core elements that will appeal to fans, THEN write beyond that? |
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Hon'ya-chan
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Bleargh, double posting.
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Jih2
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I guess it depends on whether or not we're going for the Academy's recognition on this one. I like how Bay is looked at as someone who knows what they're doing in your post. I've already stated my thoughts, I personally don't care about how something gets changed for its adaptation because adapting it to film is just that. I don't think a straight adaptation of any anime series will result in any awards or academic nods. I'm interested in what you mean by "writing beyond" the core elements. |
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GATSU
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Yueh:
Name me one MA movie that's crappier than DB: E. Tenchi: More like $150 million. Hatake:
They did try the film before they judged it. They just did so illegally. 
Sorry, but Howard the Duck is currently available on Hulu. Jih: If they made a Teletubbies movie like they're doing with those Chipmunk and Garfield movies, then I'd have to agree with the naysayers. J-Syxx:
I hope they learned, because they still don't seem to get that idea with video game movies, if they keep giving Uwe Boll money. 
tyger:
It only made the top 10 because there weren't that many movies going up against it, not because it actually did well for itself. kei:
Given that George had to change the threequels to comply with the prequels, I'd imagine that the fans are right. Lagann: Aqua Teen had a smaller budget, though. Cliff: More like $150 million to produce. yojimbo: I think a better analogy would be calling Wong the male equivalent of Lucy Liu when it comes to representing Asian pride and culture. 
Dust: It's dead. Wolverine's going to carve it up badly before it even comes close to making $60 million. Petrified: They're still making game movies. They're just hoping that they can take on bigger concepts like Bioshock. Dante: You have a point. FOX decided to ruin SF a second time, so anything is possible. Primus: Shueisha and Toriyama own all DB rights, first and foremost. Toei just has the right to handle the anime adaptation, and probably has to get permission, just to use the Z trademark however it wants. |
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CCSYueh
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My daughter's liked Jet Li & Jackie Chan since she was around 8 or 10.
It's been so long since I read Narnia. However, with DOB's of 1927-Peter, 1928-Susan, 1930-Edmund & 1932-Lucy, they are about 14-9 when they first enter Narnia in 1941. Don't know what you know about babysitting, but 12 is an accepted age for a child to begin sitting other children, thus Peter & Susan are quite old enough. All I remember about Where the Wild Things Are is reading it to my daughter when she was a child & it is JUST a night adventure. The child has a parent (mother isn't it?) who is present in his life. You are talking Goku with no parental unit in place. It's more Mowgli abandoned in the jungle than Little Rascals running around unsupervised. There are adults present in those worlds that can step in if things fo south.
Think that's the story on the dad, but mom's home being a ditz.
Superboy had parental units in place (remember the Kents?) & was playing boy scout/hero. Superboy wasn't sticking Nyobo up ninja asses or turning into a giant ape & stepping on the Kents.
It's sort of difficult pinning down the age. It was at the Tournament when Goku tells her his age & he either says he's 12 at that time, or he was 12 when they met originally--I'm not going to hunt down the ep now, but it's probably around ep 19. The Tourni Saga goes thru about ep 28, then we get the Red Ribbon Army batch going thru 67 which I could never figure if it covers 2 or 3 yrs chronologically. Then there's Baba & Tenshinhan which goes up to ep 101 & then King Piccalo & Piccalo Jr takes it to 153. While it's only 3 yrs for the anime being aired, I'm pretty sure there were some timeline jumps, particularly between King Piccalo & Piccalo Jr. I do remember seeing an estimate that Goku was around 27 when Raditz showed up so I think you're a bit shy on that estimate of 14-15.
I have no use for Eva, so I doubt I'd ever give it a decent review because I'm looking to pick it apart. If he's never cared to watch the show he really can't appreciate the good things about it. That he called it a terrible movie reflects this because it ISN'T a terrible movie. God knows I've seen my share of really, really horrid straight-to-video horror movies I only watched because there was nothing else to rent back in the '80's or '90's. (some really bad sci-fi stuff also). The plot probably flowed a bit more evenly than Forbidden Kingdom's in places & I remember the only thing keeping the Lethal Weapon franchise going by the end was the actors because the movies themselves got real thin plotwise as soon as the 2nd flick. Not to mention I have no use whatsoever for the Friday the 13th series & even Freddy was ridden into the ground by the end. Anyone calling Dragonball: Evolution a terrible movie hasn't seen enough movies. There's a whole bunch of really horrid '50's stuff that's way worse.
Really? Because the chronology I've always heard is Toriyama was doing another gag manga like Dr Slump, but it was doing horridly (remember the Pilaf story? Pretty girl collecting Dragonballs to find a boyfriend? Meets cute little monkeyboy?). It was allegedly his editor's suggestion to make it more like Fist of the North Star to rescue it from being cancelled. The primary source of inspiration for DB is Journey to the West. I know something about Dragonball, dude.
I said campy. Kung Fu Hustle was fun, yes, but it was also tongue-in-cheek. As much as fans hate the changes to the movie, I somehow believe keeping every single element of DB, but making as a spoof, it would have pissed off the fans even more. Spinal Tap worked because it was a fake band. Had it been made about a REAL band, the fans would have been upset.
How can you rate something you haven't seen? You can decide for yourself whether you want to see it or not, but I can't count the times I've been wrong about movies. I didn't really expect that much out of "I Love You, Man", but I enjoyed it more than the 4 movies I saw prior to it (Yes man, Watchmen, Madagascar 2 & Medea Goes to Jail.) Really Yes Man should have been better because it had more of a A-list cast, but I just found it ok, not bad. So no, the fans can choose not to go based on trailers, but they really can't say it sucks without seeing it. The concept does sort of fly in the face of the downloading argument that fans have to download the entire series so they can make a totally informed decision on whether they like it ("What if it goes bad in the last half!!!!!") Using the fansubber/downloader excuse, there's no leg to stand on without seeing the entire movie.
Really? I thought the best part was where Roshi said he was in a happy place until Gohan kicked him out. |
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loka
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watch some better anime? no, stuff like FMA and Bleach will never win any awards. they have writing aimed at a very young audience. |
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ssjwill4
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Goku said he was 14 when he first met Bulma but found out from training with Kame Sennin that 12 came after 11, not 14 which he states to be his correct age at the 21st Tenkaichi Budoukai. At the 22nd he is 15, and at the 23rd with Piccolo he is 18 (there are 3 year gaps between the DB tournaments). 5 years later is where Raditz shows up and Goku is 23 at the time. |
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rockman nes
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I like how the people who love this movie try to make it look like the ones who don't are stark crazy nerdy fanboys
I've seen this movie (though an alternative means) out of morbid curiosity and... WOW.. Joon Park's dialogue has to be heard to believe it. The dude's career is not off to a good start.. I really don't see what you guys are going nuts over. It's just a terrible film. Period. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQuPWwrbMVE Just because you like a movie doesn't make it good. Last edited by rockman nes on Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:33 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Tenchi
Posts: 4469 Location: Ottawa... now I'm an ex-Anglo Montrealer. |
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Well, it's fared slightly better in the weekend "actuals", according to Box Office Mojo: $4,756,488.
That's $106,488 over the initial weekend estimate, not that it changes much of anything. (It's still at #8 and an unmitigated box office disaster.) |
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TheVok
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And here's a thought.
Anime doesn't need American live-action adaptations. If they exist, fine. If they don't, fine. These movies will neither help nor hinder the anime industry. |
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Hon'ya-chan
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Why aim high; guarantee Razzie for sure.
*looks back at post* Funny, I mocked him. Lemme clarify: Oh hail the genius director who can make a film that is completely irrelevant to it's title and cast a pretty-boy actor that can't act and a whore that looks like she is smart, but isn't.
Taking DB as an example, you keep the "history" of the Dragonballs intact (Yes, we can spare letting Mr. Popo sit out for this), keep every single character as they are (i.e. Piccolo is Green, Bulma has a full head of Blue Hair and is looking for the Dragonballs, Master Roshi is some old Asian Pervert hermit with a turtle shell on his back, and Goku is like 12, not 24 or whatever age that Canuck was and can turn into a giant pissed-off monkey when it's the full moon), and make the story a quest for the Dragonballs. How they go about getting them is up to the writers. |
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