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Sophisticat
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Personally, I hope the perpetrator(s) isn't/aren't caught, because they'd get scapegoated and receive heavier sentences than they deserve.
Meh, they should be rewarded just for teaching Funi to step their game up or GTFO. |
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hikaru004
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It got officially reported in the media as a "hack". The debating won't change it otherwise now. |
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Ren Hanxue
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What does "official" reporting (what the heck does that mean, anyway? what makes it an "official" report?) have to do with what it actually is? Appeal to authority is not a valid argument. As for the actual hack question, it's fairly obvious that it isn't. The W3C certainly doesn't think so, for example. The article isn't very long and actually quite interesting, I recommend you read it, but for those of you that have ADD I'm going to quote the relevant parts:
Earlier someone in this thread wrote:
which is a remarkably bad analogy. Someone else came up with a much better analogy:
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Daizo
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And in "official reports" FUNimation also claimed they have "strict security measures" when they have absolutely none.
It's only reported as "hack" because FUNimation doesn't dare to tell the truth that they had absolutely no security at all and they leaked the file themselves in their own stupidity. Shifting the blame to someone else is the easy way out for FUNimation. In short, official media reports aren't sources that would always tell the exact truth and in this case they are wrong by claiming it was a hack. |
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KabaKabaFruit
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It's typical for any big business to try and save face over a total embarrassment like this. FUNimation is no different. I'm no stranger to FUNimation's "face saving" measures in the past. Dragon Ball Z fans can relate.
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Daizo
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Indeed, and that's exactly why trying to prove that it was a hack by referring to official statements by FUNimation is stupidity at its finest.
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britannicamoore
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Truthfully they don't have to even worry about that. There are so many people now that want blood for a show that they couldn't have possibly watched without watching the thing they hate the most. Its not even know if the person who posted was a fansubber or not, but they were lumped together because they're hated. You can't just believe everything you read. I wish i could see what happens with this soon. |
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ruriruri007
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http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/deeplinking.html I would like to point out that if you try to prevent offsite linking to content or similar other ways users can present your content you just end up in a losing battle. Based on what people have said Funimation has been the good guy so far in not restricting how you can access those episodes. This will probably no longer be the case going forward. If Funimation in fact put the episode up early and its read restrictions were not set properly then there are two possibilities. It was done by their IT staff or someone unscrupulous got access and changed the permissions. The one who is going to suffer the most from this is Funimation and the timing could not be any worse. It would have been interesting to have some metrics for the first simulcast. Everyone on here whining about how they can't get their simulcast is just a result of what happened. Content consumers not having access to anime episodes streamed is not where the interesting or real reporting of this issue should be focused. What should be focused on and used to educate is how did we end up here. 1) Poor security/breach of security 2) Copyright infringement via internet. 3) Lack of respect or concern for anime companies. |
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Charred Knight
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HAHAHAHAHAHA Really you want to call someone's elses posts stupid? |
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DmonHiro
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Not restricting access? It's restricted to more then half the word. I don't see what you mean. |
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MokonaModoki
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Somebody doesn't know what a hack is. A hack can be mind-numbingly stupid, but still be hack. What's the technological limitation? The URL wasn't exposed to the public. What's the hack? Modify the URL to access what was not exposed. It's trivially obvious, but only after someone has done it. It counts. It might have been a clever hack if guessing a password had been required, or if the URL had been less easy to predict. But a dumb hack is still a hack, expecially to the victim of it. Put another way, what you are able to respect as a hack varies by your technical savvy, but the fundamental aspect of a hack does not change. Now it IS possible to make a legal argument that a security mechanism is so weak at to be effectively non-existent. CSS, for example, now falls into this category. This is why (among several other fine reasons) you can't be charged criminally for duplicating your own DVD. If caught, the person who did this One Piece business would only be charged with a computer crime for one reason: as something to negotiate down from on the criminal copyright infringement charge. Because that's how the feds work. Don't be mistaken though... no matter how easy a security measure is to circumvent, you CAN be charged with a crime for circumventing it if the intent was to prevent you from doing so. |
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Daizo
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Except the URL was pretty much equivalent to being exposed to public as anyone could have gotten the file URL from a previous episode and deduct that changing the number will lead you to another file. "The URL wasn't exposed to the public by having a link to a site that would include a player that streams the episode from FUNimation's site" does not count as a "technological limitation". Otherwise accessing, say, google.com via the address bar would be hacking too because "the URL wasn't exposed to the public on the site you're currently on!"
Also, point me to a well-agreed definition of hacking if you think I don't know what a hack is. |
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KabaKabaFruit
Posts: 1871 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba |
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Maybe it is time to close this thread. We're going around in circles over the definition of "hacking".
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britannicamoore
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But isn't that a major part of the argument? People are saying that they could just walk right in while other said they had to d-code like Paramore. Its a big part of the issue. Ren Hanxue- I don't know what I was doing when I read through your post but your analogy makes me laugh with the hoos and haas. |
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KabaKabaFruit
Posts: 1871 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba |
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Yeah, and like we've seen for the past couple dozen pages, it's not solving anything. The only thing that matters now is to see FUNimation step up their security so crazy stuff like this never happens again. |
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