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Mad_Scientist
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 Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:33 pm
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Also, I'd just like to add that ANN has increased it's focus on video games some, so I imagine that they will at least try to have more Visual Novel reviews as part of that. But the issue is once again that Visual Novels are rather different from normal video games, and aren't going to appeal to the same people. (I certainly wouldn't want Dave Riley doing VN reviews for ANN for example).
I'm hoping they'll find someone, among their current staff or perhaps someone new, who's a good fit for Visual Novel reviews and who can start reviewing some of those officially released in English.
| RyanSaotome wrote: |
| Mad_Scientist wrote: | | Also, Visual Novels are really a totally different medium than anime, and thus aren't automatically going to appeal to someone, no matter how much they like anime. They are essentially, well, novels. Just like it would be silly to assume that someone who likes anime is also going to really enjoy reading regular books, it is also silly to assume that someone who likes anime is really going to enjoy Visual Novels. |
The appeal is very similar... it focuses on the exact same things anime does, after all. Its like how you'll most likely enjoy manga if you like anime. |
The types of stories are often very similar, but the method of telling the stories is totally different. Execution is in my mind the most important part of storytelling, sometimes taking bad ideas and making them enjoyable or good ideas and making them stupid. And good or bad, a Visual Novel is executed rather differently than an anime, and thus isn't going to appeal to some people.
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Tanteikingdomkey
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:35 pm
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| AilisKnil wrote: | | I wish I had a penny for every time one of the writers on this site informed us that they have not, in fact, experienced the source material of any anime ever, whether that source material be a visual novel, or light novel, or what have you.
For a website called "Anime News Network," I'd like to see opinions a bit more varied than, "well, I haven't read the visual novel but the show is boring" from just about everyone. I understand not being able to read every single visual novel for every anime adaptation; that's like asking the average guy to read every source novel of every film he wants to go see. The only way you'd have the time for that is if you dedicated every waking moment of your life to it. But for no one here to have read something as prominent as Little Busters? Speaks volumes about certain people's dedication to this hobby and the attitude of this site as a whole. |
if i could read Japanese, i'd certainly be willing to read/play the visual novel |
Its been translated to English.
| Mad_Scientist wrote: | | Also, Visual Novels are really a totally different medium than anime, and thus aren't automatically going to appeal to someone, no matter how much they like anime. They are essentially, well, novels. Just like it would be silly to assume that someone who likes anime is also going to really enjoy reading regular books, it is also silly to assume that someone who likes anime is really going to enjoy Visual Novels. |
The appeal is very similar... it focuses on the exact same things anime does, after all. Its like how you'll most likely enjoy manga if you like anime. |
an adaptation should not require you to read the source material period.
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:37 pm
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| AilisKnil wrote: | | I wish I had a penny for every time one of the writers on this site informed us that they have not, in fact, experienced the source material of any anime ever, whether that source material be a visual novel, or light novel, or what have you.
For a website called "Anime News Network," I'd like to see opinions a bit more varied than, "well, I haven't read the visual novel but the show is boring" from just about everyone. I understand not being able to read every single visual novel for every anime adaptation; that's like asking the average guy to read every source novel of every film he wants to go see. The only way you'd have the time for that is if you dedicated every waking moment of your life to it. But for no one here to have read something as prominent as Little Busters? Speaks volumes about certain people's dedication to this hobby and the attitude of this site as a whole. |
ANN's staff is busy. They have a whole damn website to run, and VNs take FOREVER to finish. Combine that with the difficultly of getting them legally, plus the fact that not everyone's privy to VNs, and I can't see why you're complaining.
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getchman
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:37 pm
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Its been translated to English.
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fan translation or licensed and translated by a visual novel distributor?
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RyanSaotome
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:38 pm
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Its been translated to English.
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fan translation or licensed and translated by a visual novel distributor? |
Fan translation, since big name VNs are far too expensive for current VN companies to license.
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getchman
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:43 pm
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Its been translated to English.
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fan translation or licensed and translated by a visual novel distributor? |
Fan translation, since big name VNs are far too expensive for current VN companies to license. |
gonna pass then. the few that i have played i have bought and i feel that's the right thing to do
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Chagen46
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:45 pm
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It's perfectly possible to buy the game and apply the patch to it...that's what I plan to do, anyway.
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getchman
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:47 pm
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true, but $115 is a little too much right now, though i haven't checked amazon. regardless, i currently don't have the time to spend on the game right now
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Chagen46
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:49 pm
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| getchman wrote: | | true, but $115 is a little too much right now |
Same for me...I don't have a job and there's no way I could squeeze that money out of my parents. But I hope I can get it one day.
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:51 pm
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| getchman wrote: | | true, but $115 is a little too much right now |
There are also the PS2, PSP and Vita options, if you really want to buy it. They are each like 60 bucks... Then you can download the PC version and play it translated that way.
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getchman
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:53 pm
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i dont have any of those
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Chagen46
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:02 pm
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| RyanSaotome wrote: |
| getchman wrote: | | true, but $115 is a little too much right now |
There are also the PS2, PSP and Vita options, if you really want to buy it. They are each like 60 bucks... Then you can download the PC version and play it translated that way. |
You know, I wish translation patches could be applied to Vita games. I'd love to play LB! on the go.
But...I want to see the H-scenes in Ecstasy, for god knows what reason...>_>
(I feel like I haven't seen the whole thing if I don't get through those parts)
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:07 pm
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i see nothing wrong with that
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:11 pm
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| RyanSaotome wrote: |
| getchman wrote: | | true, but $115 is a little too much right now |
There are also the PS2, PSP and Vita options, if you really want to buy it. They are each like 60 bucks... Then you can download the PC version and play it translated that way. |
You can find many popular VN for really cheap for the PC version (the version that actually got the translation). The first umineko novel is about $11 on amazon.co.jp and clannad, chaos head, and other popular visual novels. if you are creative you can get it cheaply.
That said if you own a copy of said title you should be able to do whatever you want to it, since it is your personal copy.
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:18 pm
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I imagine it's just that no one got to it before it was pulled from The Anime Network's site. ANN will use fansubs, but not once a license has been announced, even if the license ends up in a weird limbo like this. A similar thing happened with Oriemo when it was leaked and pulled. |
Chunibyo wasn't "pulled" from the TAN site, as none of the entries were put on the TAN site yet.
TLR Darkness was pulled.
However, seeing as how Chunibyo was a TBS license as well, it's almost certianly held up due to the TLR issue, along with the other 2 TBS licenses (Hidamari & Busou Shinki).
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