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NEWS: Twilight Manhwa by Young Kim to Be Published by Yen Press


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littlegreenwolf



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:13 am Reply with quote
Teriyaki Terrier wrote:
I too am also anti Twilight. I absolutely hate Twilight and am massively irratated that this has really put a bad look on the gene.

I wish the hype for this series ended years ago and hope this will be forgotten like Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys. Though I am not really into Harry Potter, at least he doesn't sparkle.

Stephanie Meyer Vampires NOT sparkle. They just don't, ever.


I don't get where people get that Twilight has "ruined" the reputation of the genre. Looking at romance novel shelf at the store I work there have been enough corny as hell vampire romance novels to make it a never ending pile of material for the most addicted vampire fanatics. Twilight was just the first one to break into the mainstream recently, and teachers jumped on it because they saw the kids who wouldn't usually read were reading it all on their own.

I'm with them in advocating anything that gets the people on the verge of illiteracy to willingly pick up a book and read. So it just happened to be Twilight, oh well. If you don't like the book, don't read it. Or you can just roll your eyes like I do when I sell it in the bookstore, and start steering the girls who come back in looking for more towards Anne Rice.

And Stephanie Meyer is far from the first person to bend the Vampire rules set by Dracula. Most every vampire book, movie, and tv series changes the rules to fit their own ends. If you all are just going to go on and on about how vampires don't sparkle, I'd like to see you try and post a vampire series that sticks true to the vamps in Dracula. Vampires have been evolving in pop culture long before Meyers decided to start messing with them.

As to the bizarre comment: Nancy Boys and Hardy Boys, forgotten? Rubbish. They're classics handed down to kids in elementary school and middle school by their parents. I was given my aunts' and mother's old copies of Nancy Drew from the 60s (which hold a special spot in my closet of books) and a month doesn't go by where I don't have some mother or aunt come in to specially order the first couple as a gift for the young little female reader in their life. You can't kill a classic, especially a girl who was kicking butt and putting down sexist stereotypes as early as the 1930s. She inspired such influential women as Hillary Clinton and Sandra Day O'Connor (Sotomayor credits the books as well) and Nancy will continue to do so far generations to come, even if it's only under revisions like Veronica Mars or modern updates the publishers decide to come up with.
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merlin2377



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:54 am Reply with quote
I have to wonder how many people in this thread have actually read Twilight. If you haven't, please stop regurgitating the opinions of others.

I personally don't see how Meyer "ruined" the vampire stereotypes. Vampires aren't real -- that's why they can evolve however pop culture evolves. It happens all the time with these kind of monsters (Seriously: compare the original Frankenstein novel to all of the movies -- there really isn't much similarity except a doctor and a monster he creates :/ ).
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nagato316



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:32 am Reply with quote
littlegreenwolf wrote:

...Stephanie Meyer is far from the first person to bend the Vampire rules set by Dracula. Most every vampire book, movie, and tv series changes the rules to fit their own ends...Vampires have been evolving in pop culture long before Meyers decided to start messing with them.


And in some instances, _devolving_. Submitted for your perusal...Exhibit A, courtesy of Mr. Justin Sevakis:

animenewsnetwork.com/buried-treasure/2009-06-04/buried-garbage-dracula/sovereign-of-the-damned Laughing

Having not experienced Ms. Meyer's franchise in any incarnation, I'm not in a position to say whether Twilight is Exhibit B.

littlegreenwolf wrote:
...teachers jumped on it because they saw the kids who wouldn't usually read were reading it all on their own.

I'm with them in advocating anything that gets the people on the verge of illiteracy to willingly pick up a book and read. So it just happened to be Twilight, oh well. If you don't like the book, don't read it.


Developing an appreciation for reading can't be a completely bad thing. Given time, one learns to better discern works of literature worth one's time. I certainly won't go out of my way to stop fangirls from indulging in the Meyers franchise...there are worse ways to spend idle hours than burying one's self in a book.

And when all is said and done, the Twilight manwha is a solid and sensible business decision on Yen Press' part. Why not ride the coattails of one of the few surefire profitable titles in the publishing industry as a whole (an industry that's been hit especially hard during the still ongoing current economic malaise)?
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zanarkand princess



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:13 pm Reply with quote
littlegreenwolf wrote:


Can Viz or someone PLEASE hurry up and license Kaori Yuki's Bloodhound so we can at least have one pretty boy vampire shoujo manga out there that has an OK story and fantastic art?

Well the live action adaption is licensed.

As for this at least yen press will make lots of money Confused

God I hate Twilight. It's a rare fandom that is so terrible, and behind that badly written excuse of a book series no less.
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Julia-the-Great



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:22 pm Reply with quote
I don't know why this amuses me so much, but it does. Very Happy Mostly because I kind of like seeing people complain about it.

Now, could somebody license the Interview with the Vampire manga? Or at least somebody finish scanlating it...
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SongstressCela



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:35 pm Reply with quote
merlin2377 wrote:
I have to wonder how many people in this thread have actually read Twilight. If you haven't, please stop regurgitating the opinions of others.

I personally don't see how Meyer "ruined" the vampire stereotypes. Vampires aren't real -- that's why they can evolve however pop culture evolves. It happens all the time with these kind of monsters (Seriously: compare the original Frankenstein novel to all of the movies -- there really isn't much similarity except a doctor and a monster he creates :/ ).


Truth. I listened to the haters, and I read the delicately picked out paragraphs that were deliberately taken out of context, etc, but then my girlfriend told me to shut up about it if I wouldn't read the blasted things already.

So, I did. And it's not great. It's not some paragon of literature. But I read for entertainment, and now three books in I've been damn entertained. It's a light, harmless read, and isn't overly poorly written at all. I've thoroughly enjoyed it.
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merlin2377



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:48 pm Reply with quote
SongstressCela wrote:
merlin2377 wrote:
I have to wonder how many people in this thread have actually read Twilight. If you haven't, please stop regurgitating the opinions of others.

I personally don't see how Meyer "ruined" the vampire stereotypes. Vampires aren't real -- that's why they can evolve however pop culture evolves. It happens all the time with these kind of monsters (Seriously: compare the original Frankenstein novel to all of the movies -- there really isn't much similarity except a doctor and a monster he creates :/ ).


Truth. I listened to the haters, and I read the delicately picked out paragraphs that were deliberately taken out of context, etc, but then my girlfriend told me to shut up about it if I wouldn't read the blasted things already.

So, I did. And it's not great. It's not some paragon of literature. But I read for entertainment, and now three books in I've been damn entertained. It's a light, harmless read, and isn't overly poorly written at all. I've thoroughly enjoyed it.


I agree. I read them and enjoyed them -- they weren't the best books I've ever read, nor my favorites, but, if we're talking about "entertainment" it accomplished that, at least for me. Something doesn't have to be a literary masterpiece to be entertainment.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:06 am Reply with quote
As much as I dislike Twilight, it does make for a good shoujo manga, and whoever came up with the idea to make a manhwa is a genious because this is popular and will rake in a lot of cash. Laughing

Sorry double post.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:06 am Reply with quote
As much as I dislike Twilight, it does make for a good shoujo manga, and whoever came up with the idea to make a manhwa is a genius because this is popular and will rake in a lot of cash. Laughing
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Silvercat



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:10 am Reply with quote
Ryu Shoji wrote:

VAMPIRES SHOULD BURN IN THE SUN, NOT SPARKLE! *cries*

No, burning is WORSE than sparkling.
The burning in the sun thing is a Hollywood invention. Dracula walked out in daytime. Other vampires walked in the sun. It wasn't till movies that the stupid "Sun Kills" thing became common and that's worse than sparkling since people believe it to be part of the original mythos.


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Silvercat



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:17 am Reply with quote
Can't we just replace "Twilight" with "Harry Potter"?
Want HP manga or manhwa.
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The Xenos



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:30 pm Reply with quote
merlin2377 wrote:
I have to wonder how many people in this thread have actually read Twilight. If you haven't, please stop regurgitating the opinions of others.

I didn't have to see Transformers 2 to realize what an incredible turd that was. And I've seen enough summaries of what this book does to vampire mythology do not like it. I've seen the movie and been described whole bits of the book by a couple friends who did read it. This is up there with that Lord of the Star Wars dragon with an e book Eragon.

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I personally don't see how Meyer "ruined" the vampire stereotypes. Vampires aren't real -- that's why they can evolve however pop culture evolves. It happens all the time with these kind of monsters (Seriously: compare the original Frankenstein novel to all of the movies -- there really isn't much similarity except a doctor and a monster he creates :/ ).

Yeah, those Frankenstein movies were crap on the original. Does that give Meyer an excuse to crap all over any and all previous vampire myths? Seriously, Meyer's creations have very little to do with vampire myths. If someone made a book about unicorns and had them depicted as elephants, I'd sure as hell complain.

Meanwhile Twilight is little more than romantic emotional pornography with paper thin characters and plot. It sounds like it was written by a 14 year old girl, not something written by an adult. Ten to one there are better developed mary sue fanfics out there than this low brow tripe. There are plenty of manga that have better vampires and plenty of better shojo. Hell, this book sounds as bad as some of those really bad shonen harem romance that really pander to male audiences.

Silvercat wrote:
Can't we just replace "Twilight" with "Harry Potter"?
Want HP manga or manhwa.

I don't really like Harry Potter and never got into it. Yet I don't mind it at all. I'd much rather see that adapted in Japanse or Korean or even American comics than this Twilight crap.

So... who wants to take a trip down to the Hot Topic and stop the sparklepire scourge at its source? It used to be a Banana Republic! (Funny enough on vacation recently I stopped in on and both a South Park shirt with the goth kids that said "Vampires are lame.")
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:25 pm Reply with quote
As much as I'd love to continue to watch as this thread devolves into a proverbial cesspool of moronic comments and bashing of series, authors, and generally the genre to which Nosferatu are so central, I think I'm gonna duck out now while I still have a shred of hope left for the otaku community in this regard.

But before I go, I'd like to paraphrase a translation of a BL series I enjoyed several years back, Sukisho, since I believe the saying derived from its namesake holds a very profound meaning in any area of life or fandom. That saying is as follows:
"I like what I like, and that's all there is to it!" Wink

What's more, being a longtime fan of Vampire Knight as well as the 'hardcore' works of vampire fiction, I thought it'd be both poignant and personally hilarious to point this out.
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littlegreenwolf



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:51 pm Reply with quote
Julia-the-Great wrote:
Now, could somebody license the Interview with the Vampire manga? Or at least somebody finish scanlating it...


I seemed to have missed this first read through so...

Shocked WHAT!? You mean to tell me a manga is out there featuring bishonen manga style Lestat and Louis, and I didn't know?! Who did it? How old is it? ISBN?! I need to order it from Amazon.jp ASAP!
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merlin2377



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:49 pm Reply with quote
The Xenos wrote:
merlin2377 wrote:
I have to wonder how many people in this thread have actually read Twilight. If you haven't, please stop regurgitating the opinions of others.

I didn't have to see Transformers 2 to realize what an incredible turd that was. And I've seen enough summaries of what this book does to vampire mythology do not like it. I've seen the movie and been described whole bits of the book by a couple friends who did read it. This is up there with that Lord of the Star Wars dragon with an e book Eragon.


Right. So you're just going to be a sheeple and not even bother to form your own opinions based on actually READING the thing. I really don't care if you continue to think it's a piece of crap, but only after you've read it (really, it doesn't matter to me as long as a person forms their own opinion, whatever that opinion may be). Letting other people put their opinion in their head is really the tragedy here, not how "terrible" the book is. =/ (Plus, the manwha is most likely being based off the book and not the movie and they aren't quite the same thing).

And I haven't seen Transformers 2, but I have heard some pretty bad things about it. That being said, I'm not going to say "it sucks" simply because all I know about the movie is what I've been told by others.
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