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NEWS: AT&T Blocking Part of 4chan, Then Restores Access


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Jkid



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:36 am Reply with quote
I frequent 4chan a lot (I rarely visit /b/ for all it's worth), and the site is working for me.
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The_X_box_360



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:10 am Reply with quote
The Rundown....



Ten Steps To Revelation:

-1st- Using AT&T IPs, a massive DDoS attack is initiated against img.4chan.org
-2nd- Upon discovering the situation, AT&T caps/blocks the internet traffic to img.4chan.org on it's internet service, while they attempt to further isolate and remedy the situation. To prevent further abuse from this DDoS attack, would be the only logical explanation for this decision (at least from anyone with any rationality).
-3rd- Upon discovery of the change in AT&T DSL and U-verse access to 4chan, countless legions of internet addicted shut-ins began to drop to their bellies, en masse, and initiate a collective temper-tantrum.
-4th- Site owners, editors, bloggers and columnists from several of the web's leading sites in the online anime and tech nerd subcultures began to weigh-in on the situation. Many, with bias, urge their followers to contact AT&T and voice objection to it's reaction to the situation by demanding that the access be returned to it's previous state (LMFAO!!).
-5th- The 4chan website creator, "moot", begins to publicly weigh-in on the situation, going so far as to shoot down reported comments from AT&T that they had contacted 4chan several times and requested changes to the site that were all ignored.
-6th- AT&T Internet Services division executives begin to privately voice their disbelief of the apparent level of stupidity being displayed on web blogs and boards towards their attempts to contain and remedy this DDoS attack from their IPs. After some comical discussion, AT&T execs come to the conclusion that all parties involved will not stand to see reason and will only grow more disruptive if the access isn't restored immediately......
....the order is sent to "give them what they want"
-7th- Access to img.4chan.org from AT&T's internet services is restored to it's previous(normal) level.
-8th- 4chan creator, moot, is witnessed making the remark, "OMFG0dZ3RZ, wtf is happening to mah site!!!"
-9th- After having undergone an extremely massive DDoS attack from cyber-rogues using AT&T IPs, the 4chan website is reported as temporarily being in an apparently crashed state.
-10th- A handful of cyber-rogues, a tiny minority of rational people tracking this situation, and the small group of AT&T employees and execs assigned to handle this case all fall to their knees, en masse, and laugh their asses off at how ridiculously idiotic the internets can get.
All other parties involved are currently unavailable for comment. (LMAO)




*Might not be exactly what transpired, but, definitely not far from the actual events...... imho. -_-


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einhorn303



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:10 am Reply with quote
If ISP's could just block any site that they wanted, just because they felt like or didn't like the content, that would be a Very Bad Thing.
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12xan



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:13 am Reply with quote
The_X_box_360 wrote:

Ten Steps To Revelation:


Always thought there was 12 steps, but the other 2 steps are easy to figure out

On the other hand, you basically describe what happens when a site is blacklisted (by an ISP, Google, etc)
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jsc315



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:46 am Reply with quote
Nagisa wrote:
PlatinumHawke wrote:
There is no censorship issue with this. At all.


We should hope, at least. I don't like /b/, but the idea of our ISPs dictating what consenting adults are and are not allowed to view online downright terrifies me.

I completely agree with you on that. As much as this makes me laugh I don't want my ISP controlling anything on the internet ever! Telling me what i can and can not see.
Edit: after reading more about this i still agree with what i said but ATT was in the right.
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NDenizen



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:02 am Reply with quote
I'm happy that ANN, interpretable as unrelated to this site, is willing to mention this incident.

But of course, there is a connection. In light of the recent court cases of a man being arrested for possessing drawings of "child pornography" (apparently), it's not a far cry to imagine the anime community suddenly being hit by censors for the same reason - fabricated, incorrect, illogical reasons, obviously, all using the serious issue of child abuse as some convenient special tool to trick people into lying over as authorative people trample our human rights for their own political ends.

And no matter what BS they say about "oh, it's necessary to protect x" or "oh, it was a mistake", this event could very easily be a small experiment to see what the effects of a censored internet are. A precedent cannot be made where people are allowed to do this - the freedom of the internet, a symbol of unrestrained free speech and free thought, must be defended at any cost, or it's just a spiral downwards to facism and dictatorships - whether from companies or governments, either way it won't be good.
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NNUfergs



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:49 am Reply with quote
I can still get there on my iPhone.
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halo



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:04 am Reply with quote
NDenizen wrote:
I'm happy that ANN, interpretable as unrelated to this site, is willing to mention this incident.

But of course, there is a connection. In light of the recent court cases of a man being arrested for possessing drawings of "child pornography" (apparently), it's not a far cry to imagine the anime community suddenly being hit by censors for the same reason - fabricated, incorrect, illogical reasons, obviously, all using the serious issue of child abuse as some convenient special tool to trick people into lying over as authorative people trample our human rights for their own political ends.

And no matter what BS they say about "oh, it's necessary to protect x" or "oh, it was a mistake", this event could very easily be a small experiment to see what the effects of a censored internet are. A precedent cannot be made where people are allowed to do this - the freedom of the internet, a symbol of unrestrained free speech and free thought, must be defended at any cost, or it's just a spiral downwards to facism and dictatorships - whether from companies or governments, either way it won't be good.


AT&T has contractual obligations to it's customers many of which are businesses with SLAs. They legally have to protect their network. You can't just shut off the traffic from the attackers because it's coming from many different networks, not just AT&T's. Google peering for a quick rundown of how the internet really works. The attack was causing havoc on AT&T's backbone from outside their own network so the only resolution was to block anything trying to resolve the attacked address. Other network operators did the same thing.

There is absolutely no censorship or neutrality issue here.
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sunflower



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:04 am Reply with quote
12xan wrote:
The_X_box_360 wrote:

Ten Steps To Revelation:


Always thought there was 12 steps, but the other 2 steps are easy to figure out


11. ?????
12. Profit
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commsky



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:31 am Reply with quote
Just hit up the ED article on what to do if you want to help.

EDIT:

Cancel that, didn't know it was already back up
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Kirkdawg
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:26 pm Reply with quote
I think it's hilarious how several people who posted in this thread (especially in earlier pages) were talking like they were about to take up arms for the sake of fighting for teh internet freedoms!!11 I'm not an expert, but after reading through the thread it's pretty clear there appears to be a legitimate reason for this action, and I believe the block has been lifted since?
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Sailor S





PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:04 pm Reply with quote
NDenizen wrote:
I'm happy that ANN, interpretable as unrelated to this site, is willing to mention this incident.

But of course, there is a connection. In light of the recent court cases of a man being arrested for possessing drawings of "child pornography" (apparently), it's not a far cry to imagine the anime community suddenly being hit by censors for the same reason - fabricated, incorrect, illogical reasons, obviously, all using the serious issue of child abuse as some convenient special tool to trick people into lying over as authorative people trample our human rights for their own political ends.

And no matter what BS they say about "oh, it's necessary to protect x" or "oh, it was a mistake", this event could very easily be a small experiment to see what the effects of a censored internet are. A precedent cannot be made where people are allowed to do this - the freedom of the internet, a symbol of unrestrained free speech and free thought, must be defended at any cost, or it's just a spiral downwards to facism and dictatorships - whether from companies or governments, either way it won't be good.


And it can all be traced back to the NHK. It's all a conspiracy! Way to blow things out of proportion Rolling Eyes
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TsukasaElkKite



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:08 pm Reply with quote
And nothing of value was lost.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:34 pm Reply with quote
TsukasaElkKite wrote:
And nothing of value was lost.

Why do people keep saying this? This is the 3rd time this exact sentence has been posted by 3 separate users and it's making me curious.
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Nagisa
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:36 pm Reply with quote
Kirkdawg wrote:
TsukasaElkKite wrote:
And nothing of value was lost.

Why do people keep saying this? This is the 3rd time this exact sentence has been posted by 3 separate users and it's making me curious.


4chan meme.

And yeah, people, it's old. The joke's done now, and any more posting of it risks having this thread shut down.
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