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Big Hed
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| So, it's essentially reverting to an SDCC-type setup? I wonder if NYAF wasn't pulling enough of a crowd or something? |
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Viga_of_stars
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
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Location: Washington D.C. in the Anime Atelier
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 1:42 pm |
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| Well, there's a lot of fan crossover. But I think this will be a logical and comical nightmare. I truly think this will be a failure due to too many people. |
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Ktimene's Lover
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Joined: 23 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 1:45 pm |
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| What you said Viga makes sense. But this many people is minute compared to hundreds of thousands of people at Comiket. |
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Starre257
Joined: 13 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 1:46 pm |
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When I was in NY, I used to go to those cons, and honestly, they were my worst con experiences.
I'm in Ohio for college now, and I'm kind of glad I'm not going to be in NY for that time. |
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Agoston
Joined: 22 Aug 2008
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 1:49 pm |
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| Starre257 wrote: | | When I was in NY, I used to go to those cons, and honestly, they were my worst con experiences. |
I'm curious, why were they so bad? |
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Tofusensei
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:10 pm |
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One less trip to Javits Center makes me smile 
I'd say 90% of the complaints people have about NYAF can be sourced back to the fact it's held in the Javits Center. |
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bayoab
Joined: 06 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:27 pm |
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Awesome, except I foresee a giant logistical nightmare. This is going to take a lot of careful planning to be done right.  |
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MetatronM
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:32 pm |
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| bayoab wrote: | | Awesome, except I foresee a giant logistical nightmare. This is going to take a lot of careful planning to be done right. |
I don't see why. Last year NYAF was just in one little wing of the Javits Center, and some medical con or something was going on elsewhere while a large portion of the place went unused that weekend altogether.
Shouldn't be hard at all to do both at the same time.
The only difficulty I can see would be for exhibitors who typically attend both, who will either have to have two booths or just pick one and go with it. Which wouldn't really be an issue anyway, since it's all under one ticket. |
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Agent355
Joined: 12 Dec 2008
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Location: Crackberry in hand, thumbs at the ready...
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:49 pm |
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| When Fandoms Collide! It sounds like fun to me, but will it inspire tension or encourage peace between fans who dislike graphic fictional works from certain parts of the world? Time will tell. |
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jsieczka
Joined: 19 Jul 2008
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Location: Rochester, NY
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:51 pm |
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| MetatronM wrote: | | bayoab wrote: | | Awesome, except I foresee a giant logistical nightmare. This is going to take a lot of careful planning to be done right. |
I don't see why. Last year NYAF was just in one little wing of the Javits Center, and some medical con or something was going on elsewhere while a large portion of the place went unused that weekend altogether.
Shouldn't be hard at all to do both at the same time.
The only difficulty I can see would be for exhibitors who typically attend both, who will either have to have two booths or just pick one and go with it. Which wouldn't really be an issue anyway, since it's all under one ticket. |
The dealers room and artists alley are the same room for both cons. So now instead of making two trips the vendors only need to make one trip. and have both of the crowds.
As for having issues do to the size, it will not be much of an issue. These are not fan run cons Reed Exhibitors is one of the largest convention management firms in the world, they put on a few 100K+ shows every year. |
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pparker
Joined: 13 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:03 pm |
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| Tofusensei wrote: | | One less trip to Javits Center makes me smile |
Just Manhattan logistics can be a bitch, but I've worked/attended a few Javits-hosted events over the years. I thought the facilities and management were good compared to most, never had any issues with Javits itself. Haven't attended this event in particular. |
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TatsuGero23
Joined: 18 Nov 2008
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Location: Sniper Island, USA (It's in your heart!)
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:33 pm |
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I think its a pretty nice idea. 2 cons for probably the price of 1 & 1/2. And maybe all the twilight fans will discover that Vampire Knights series...
And maybe we will get some hilarious con pics. |
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Tofusensei
Joined: 15 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:39 pm |
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| pparker wrote: | | Tofusensei wrote: | | One less trip to Javits Center makes me smile |
Just Manhattan logistics can be a bitch, but I've worked/attended a few Javits-hosted events over the years. I thought the facilities and management were good compared to most, never had any issues with Javits itself. Haven't attended this event in particular. |
It's not Manhattan logistics, though. It's 12th avenue logistics. It's just too far from everything: restaurants, subway stations, hotels, etc. The closest avenue with decent stuff on it is 8th avenue and even that's pretty miserable. And the walk to 8th avenue is the opposite of scenic, unless you like looking at bus terminals and the on-ramp to the Lincoln tunnel :\
People think of Manhattan as everything available at your fingertips, but unfortunately Javits is the complete opposite.
That being said, there is no alternative in the city so what can you do. :X |
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bayoab
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:50 pm |
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| MetatronM wrote: | I don't see why. Last year NYAF was just in one little wing of the Javits Center, and some medical con or something was going on elsewhere while a large portion of the place went unused that weekend altogether.
Shouldn't be hard at all to do both at the same time. |
The problem isn't fitting them in. It's controlling and managing the resulting chaos. Also, NYCC and NYAF have different policies on various things which is going to make it even more chaotic.
| Quote: | | The only difficulty I can see would be for exhibitors who typically attend both, who will either have to have two booths or just pick one and go with it. Which wouldn't really be an issue anyway, since it's all under one ticket. |
One would assume they would have a "merged" exhibition hall.
| jsieczka wrote: | | As for having issues do to the size, it will not be much of an issue. These are not fan run cons Reed Exhibitors is one of the largest convention management firms in the world, they put on a few 100K+ shows every year. |
The problem with size at most anime cons is completely different from the ones Reed experiences. Reed has crowd control issues which are very apparent at NYAF and only somewhat better at NYCC. Combine this with the tendency at anime cons for people to stop to take pictures in the middle of everything and you get one further chaotic situation. |
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Akukaze
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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Location: Stony Brook, NY
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:56 pm |
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I always laugh a little inside when I see "Javits Center," because I go to Stony Brook and that's the name of our lecture hall building. Everyone here has to say Jacob Javits Center if they want people to know you're talking about the convention center.
If tickets aren't too expensive, I could easily see myself going in 2010. The two individual events didn't quite have me excited enough to deal with the logistical nightmare and monetary issue, but together they're quite enticing, especially if I can stay with one of my NYU friends. |
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