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keikanna44
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Finally! Now all the virtual children will be safe. That's a load off my mind. I'll sleep good tonight.
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giascle
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Not entirely sure what you're saying here. Do you think I was actually serious when I said this law is fair?
That's already happening. I highly doubt every hentai character ever is at least 18, but as long as someone says they are, it's completely legal. |
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hikaru004
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And as long as it's stated that the character is 18 yo then the fantasy component of character being underaged is drastically reduced imo. |
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zargas
 Posts: 50 Location: Nebula M78 |
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This law is so broadly worded that it basically bans sex education.
And considering the nature of the current Filipino political clime, it wouldn't surprise me much if that was intentional. |
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LiuXuande
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It's the Phillipines.
Sorry but, since when have they used any sense or logic in any governmental decision they've made? It's great BANG legislature for the sake of showing that they're doing something. Thought police is right. Now all this topic needs is the usual triad of posters coming in to accuse everyone here of being fanatical pedophiles and that loli anime shouldn't exist in ther first place 
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mlund
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No. He clearly implied that your sarcastic protestation over the law was over-reaction, and he clearly points out that your example of "fapping to a drawing" getting you a life sentence in prison is wildly inaccurate. As noted, the penalties are for creation, distribution, and possession with intent to distribute - not petty possession.
You know, considering the age of consent in the Philippines is 12 I suspect this may be a non-issue. The age of 18 only plays a role in sex laws in the Philippines because you can't contract with anyone under 18, so any attempts to purchase sex from someone under 18 are considered a more grave offense than simple prostitution (closer to rape). It is illegal to involve someone under 18 in producing porn due to the above, but I don't not believe it redefines 'child' legally to cover 13-17 year-olds. Therefor the law will likely only apply to material that would be directed at true pedophilia (where the objects are prepubescent children). So if someone is manufacturing or distributing porn (live or animated) of kids under the age of 12 in the Philippines the government has a statute that allows them to respond with anything from fines to imprisonment depending on the severity of the case. I don't see anything wrong with that (other than that there is a demand for such material in the first place). Also, it does not ban "sex education" or the like as the materials used in such classes, typically, do not meet the legal classifications required for pornography or obscenity. Now, Philippine law could be totally crazy with all sorts of extra special definitions and clauses that I haven't been able to dig up, but all things being equal this law seems much more correctly targeted than the typically doomed offering made in legislatures of Western democracies. - Marty Lund |
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DPX
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"The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation." -Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler, Publ. Houghton Miflin, 1943, Page 403
I'll just leave this here. |
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jdnation
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I agree that pornography involving children of any kind must be punishable. I don't support pornagraphic depictions in drawings or virtual or anime either. Though I must agree that it should get a much lesser penalty than real child pornographers and people in posession of that material. But I agree that it should be discouraged and confiscated with some fines for distributors/creators of child pornography manga/anime.
Sex Education/Films, documentaries, animation, books and manga that touch upon subjects/stories about underage sex etc. are a far different matter from explicit pornography. |
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jr240483
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Fapping?? What do you mean by that??? If it means collecting and downloading loli doujins and videos,that's going WAY over the line. I only pray to god that doesn't happen otherwise US otakus will have to kiss the idea of kodomo no jikan being licensed in the US goodbye. I pray that's not the case. |
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egoist
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I'm talking about England. With so many things to worry about, they're stuck with all this "virtual" waste of time. Things like: crime; recession which resulted, and still resulting, in a lot of jobs loss and companies shutting down.
Like always, you just leave it there. Sometimes I wonder if you really know the meaning behind Hitler's words. |
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Zalis116
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Navak
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Right, and I'm saying the data generally does not support the assertion of crime increasing until the recession really hit...before that coverage and what not was up, the "TURN IN YOUR KNIVES!" crap was ramped up, and other items like that, but crime was not going up. |
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egoist
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Instead of looking at the data, how about looking around you and verifying the reality? That's what I do, and that's what my eyes are telling me. You don't have to be some kind of "supernatural being" to notice an increase of violence in your city. Less money flow results in more crime, and that's some basics every citizen should know. Either way, this is going a little off-topic, and for me this ends here.
Last edited by egoist on Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:20 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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dizzon
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In this case I would say no. The funny thing about quotes is....just because the wording of a quote sounds like it might apply to a given topic doesn't mean it actually does. A quote means nothing if it's taken out of context. |
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giascle
Posts: 157 Location: Denver |
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Well then now I'm even more confused. Why exactly is a incredibly over-simplified, two-sentence joke considered overreacting? |
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