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jmays
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:17 am Reply with quote
It's about time. When you look at all the hoops anime has to jump through to make North American airwaves, a direct line is way overdue.

Depending on who else is brought onboard, this could easily trump the ADV/Geneon/FUNimation alliance. Remember that Warner has their own distribution network, so they could completely bypass the US anime industry if they desired.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:22 am Reply with quote
Interesting.

Now the question is: what kind of demograph are they aiming for?

If these shows are indeed going to air on Cartoon Network, then in all likelihood they'll air either on Adult Swim or Toonami, since anime not called "Pokemon" or "Yu-Gi-Oh!" doesn't seem to survive that well outside these two blocks. And if that's so, then they'll probably either make something like Bandai's been doing with "SD Gundam" and "D.I.C.E." for Toonami, or maybe like what Adult Swim did with "Big O II".

Or both.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:31 am Reply with quote
a direct line isn't always better....taking the japanese out of japanese animation is something i've always been afraid of. i don't want them to try to cater to us. oh well. as long as they keep making their usual stuff, i'm happy.

this won't trump the adv/geneon/funimation alliance ^^;; you forgot bandai as well. they're up there. 4kids is bigger than all of those i think. anyways, it won't trump them because it's a way to make new shows. what the licensing companies do is take already made shows and release them. that's just as important as making new shows mind you.

considering time warner is involved, i'm sure they won't let the japanese side do whatever they want. it may be good, it's probably not going to be...but i'm sure it'll make them a lot of money.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:36 am Reply with quote
Sigh... I can just see it now...

go to AOL keyword: Anime for info on "X" series. I'm sure they'll use it somehow...

At least I'm not likely to take any calls about that.

As far as the time warner conglomerate goes, they are more concerned with raking in the cash than interfering with the products being made, so you can be certain they won't mess with it unless it's absolutely necessary.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:45 am Reply with quote
They should just co-produce or license anime. They still haven't gotten their syngery together on AOhHell.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:46 am Reply with quote
hkrok76 wrote:
a direct line isn't always better....taking the japanese out of japanese animation is something i've always been afraid of. i don't want them to try to cater to us. oh well. as long as they keep making their usual stuff, i'm happy.

Next time somebody complains about waiting years to see an anime series, I'm sending him straight to you. But seriously, this is just streamlining a messy distribution process; Japanese animators still have to worry about the Japanese audience, and if they choose to target the North American audience as well...well, they're already doing that anyways.

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this won't trump the adv/geneon/funimation alliance ^^;; you forgot bandai as well. they're up there. 4kids is bigger than all of those i think. anyways, it won't trump them because it's a way to make new shows. what the licensing companies do is take already made shows and release them. that's just as important as making new shows mind you.

No, this is all about direct access to a very successful cable network. We've seen in the past that Time Warner prefers to keep things in-house instead of licensing from others (they keep more of the profits), so this move just makes it harder for other anime companies to get their shows on CN.

4Kids and Warner still have strong ties with Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh!, but I think the recent renaming of the FoxBox as 4Kids TV may be a sign of where 4Kids will put their chips in the future.

I don't know what's up with Bandai. Now that Bandai Visual has set up shop in California, it looks like they're preparing for some streamlining of their own. Based on their prior deals with CN, they probably have the best shot of staying on the network, but who knows.

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considering time warner is involved, i'm sure they won't let the japanese side do whatever they want. it may be good, it's probably not going to be...but i'm sure it'll make them a lot of money.

Now you're just being silly. A big corporation pumps more money into anime production, and you're sure the end result will be worse? Let's wait and see.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:49 am Reply with quote
FYI...right now Time warner is trying to break away from there AOL counterpart. They just are having trouble killing the damn thing. Its like a parasite. saying "GOT MAIL" Over and over again! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:50 am Reply with quote
Miagi:
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so this move just makes it harder for other anime companies to get their shows on CN.


I don't think Time Warner's stupid enough to kick out the distributors who made one of their networks the ratings success it is today. It'll be like Sony taking over the Anime Network, if that happens.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:56 am Reply with quote
GATSU wrote:
I don't think Time Warner's stupid enough to kick out the distributors who made one of their networks the ratings success it is today. It'll be like Sony taking over the Anime Network, if that happens.

Booting big-ticket shows from their current (and up through April '06) lineup, no, but if Warner gets the shows they want, it's game over. They have no need to deal with ADV and company.

Now, I don't expect all of this to fall Warner's way, but the potential is definitely there.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:13 am Reply with quote
I don't think they'd go down that easy. Time Warner has to know how to market their titles. I mean Sony licensing the Bebop movie didn't really make a difference at the box office, in spite of it being one of the network's highest rated shows.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:19 am Reply with quote
...which brings us back to arxane's question about demographics. If they're aiming for the Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi crowd, Warner will probably do well, at least based on the success of that show's campaign. It's tempting to lower expectations for something in Adult Swim territory, but then again, they've raked in the ratings (at least on the comedy side) as well.

Of course, we're talking about marketing that we won't see for over a year. I think it will depend almost entirely on who's running the department come 2006.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:21 am Reply with quote
Phear. Phear with great Phear.

I want absolutely nothing to do with whatever filth results from this partnership. No doubt Warner will insist on having some creative influence with preference to marketability as opposed to content, especially if it's being made with the intent of going direct to American television.

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In addition to producing the anime, the companies expect to profit from the development and marketing of related merchandise.


Real anime doesn't need marketing.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:35 am Reply with quote
If it's airing on both country's cartoon network, then this is something to see. An anime actually concurrently airing. It may be interesting.... But, if in Japan it is shown on Prime Time and in the US it's shoved off into a corner of Adult Swim then I'll be disappointed.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:46 am Reply with quote
xstylus wrote:
Phear. Phear with great Phear.

I want absolutely nothing to do with whatever filth results from this partnership. No doubt Warner will insist on having some creative influence with preference to marketability as opposed to content, especially if it's being made with the intent of going direct to American television.

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In addition to producing the anime, the companies expect to profit from the development and marketing of related merchandise.


Real anime doesn't need marketing.


There it is. I knew it was only a matter of time before I would hear the stereotypical anime fanboy gripe about the "Americaization" of anime, as if anime was some paragon of pure artistic expression to the world. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:57 am Reply with quote
I'll go ahead and assume that this partnership won't produce the "next-great-shoujo-anime-based-on-a-hentai-game."

Still, Time Warner brings to mind Warner Bros., which brings to mind all the great cartoons I grew up with, all the way from Bugs Bunny to the Animaniacs. That being said, these were very "cartoony," and, while good, lacked the loosely-based-in-reality flair that anime has.

I'm going to hold off calling for a plague of locusts or whatever and patiently wait and see.
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