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Letthemeatraep
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I for one do think that in the present climate Japanese animation is far more enjoyable than Western animation by such a wide margin it isn't even funny, whereas only a few years ago I would have had a much harder time truly having such a definitive opinion either way when the US was producing truly outstanding animated series like Batman, Justice League(Which only got better when it became JL Unlimited), Superman, Samurai Jack, and hell, even the remade Ninja Turtles series had it's moments in the first season or two, and the inferior Batman follow up THE Batman was really excellent in it's final season, but shows like this are pretty much non-existent now. With Brave and the Bold being the only really stand out series I could name with genuine all ages appeal, now that the superb Spectacular Spider-Man(The first genuinely good Spidey animated series) seems to be gone for good.
I'd normally be the first to defend the US animated scene, but in the past year or two it's been hard to do that. People might moan about the lack of variety in anime these days, but could those moaners point to a medium that isn't every bit as recycled, stale and stuck on the same ideas? I'd bet not. Simple fact of the matter is, there always seems to be a decent new anime coming along every now and then for me to enjoy, but the Western animated scene is a barren desert by comparison now. Seriously, when I mention "American cartoons" to people, the first they will think of is either the Simpsons, or whatever crap that arrogant, grinning buffoon Seth McFarlane is passing off as comedy these days. I can honestly say I got more laughs out of the last season of Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei than I have out of the entirety of everything Seth McFarlane has made(That I have seen anyways). It's all opinion obviously, but I don't really see anything outside of comedy that Western animation has produced of real note to compete with the flood of anime that appears every year... one off short films excepted obviously... |
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maaya
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Well in Japanese the title is pronounced the same way they do pronounce the word "trouble". So that definitely isn't wrong. Of course, simply calling the series "Trouble" in english loses the pun and doesn't match the romaji spelling being used. Actually the fact that they spell it as "To-Love-Ru" is of course so that the japanese readers will understand the pun (else they would just think of "trouble" and not make the link with "love"). In Germany the title has been translated as "Love Trouble", which I suppose is a good choice. Straightforward and still faithful. Else one could chose "Tlovle" by "merging" Trouble with Love, but then I still don't think most people would get the pun. Best thing would be to find a word that includes the letters "l o v e" in the middle and means something bad, like "trouble". Or the other way round. |
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giascle
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I should watch I Am So Proud of You, again. Don Hertzfeldt came to Denver, and I saw it on a small movie screen; if he keeps this up, part 3 will be incredible.
Basically anything slightly intended for Western audiences, it seems. |
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Dop.L
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Tch! All this talk about the pronunciation of 'To-Love-Ru'...
Did we fight the 'Utawarerumono' wars in vain? |
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Kirikiri23
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of anime |
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Moomintroll
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I absolutely agree that more alternative (or just "adult" in the non-porny sense) stuff would be very, very welcome but it's worth noting that we've never had it so good. Viz, in particular, have been really pushing new alt-manga, putting out more seinen stuff than they were a few years back and dabbling with a few josei titles too. Meanwhile Fanfare, D&Q, Last Gasp, Top Shelf and Picturebox are introducing more alt-manga to the literary comics world than it's ever seen before and helping to secure a market for the more thoughtful material beyond the otaku ghetto where that type of stuff has traditionally gone pretty much unnoticed. So, yeah, I'd love to see more of those titles too but I'm a lot more optimistic about the variety of manga on offer now than I was in the not too distant past. And with stuff like Gogo Monster, Little Fluffy Gigolo PELU, A Drifting Life, Red Snow, Children Of The Sea, Ooku and A Distant Neighborhood (amongst others) recently released, there are definitely reasons to be cheerful.
That would be wonderful but I can't see it happening - I'm guessing it would be a licensing nightmare. Still, there's a big AX collection coming out this year from Top Shelf (hopefully the first of many) and AX is, to all intents and purposes, the successor of Garo.
I'm amazed this still hasn't been licensed in either the US or UK. But if you have deep pockets, the Japanese release has English subs. ---
shrift 1) confession to a priest. 2) absolution, esp. of one about or appointed to die. short shrift Old English scrift, from scrifan, to shrive I have no idea how "short shift" would make sense unless used in the context of going home from work early...
Er...no. a) You forgot the Anglo-American War of 1812. b) The American War of Independence took place, by definition, on British territory - it wasn't American territory until the war had concluded and the treaties signed. Unless you're including attacks on territory that is now American prior to the establishment of the USA, in which case you've also forgotten the French and Indian War. c) You forgot the Mexican-American War (specifically, the siege of Fort Texas). c) The Kreigsmarine operated inside US territorial waters in both World Wars. d) The Japanese launched a number of balloon attacks against the US mainland during WWII. e) There have been attacks on US embassies - all legally US territory - going back to the Boxer Rebellion. Sorry. I'm a slightly drunk pedant with a history degree. I'll go away now. |
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ninjaclown
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Of what SPECIFICALLY, is what I meant to ask. |
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diligent sesame
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Given that it was an OVA, I don't think it was ever broadcast on Japanese TV. If it was, then it would still be a 6-episode series without any adaptation hype, amidst all the other series on Japanese broadcast. We were lucky here in the US to be exposed to it via Adult Swim. (Kudos to Adult Swim. KUDOS.)
@people who are thinking, "What? Sailor Moon is not everywhere! Lies!": So you can't find Sailor Moon stuff everywhere to buy nowadays. That's not the point. I think it's appropriate to say that Sailor Moon WAS everywhere for awhile. There was definitely a craze, and while it wasn't the biggest and has pretty much died down, I think it's safe to say that Sailor Moon successfully crossed over into the mainstream. And that's the point. Story Time: For Halloween I wore my Haruhi Suzumiya uniform to school. As far as I am concerned that is an appropriate and badass display of nerdery, but I also wore a cardigan over it. A surprising amount of my classmates asked me politely if it was a Sailor Moon costume. The high school football lineman asked if I was supposed to be Sailor Moon. THERE, PROOF! So I'm totally feeling the nod for magical girl series too! And sports. Last edited by diligent sesame on Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:05 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Captain Crotchspike
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I still meet people who otherwise don't care about anime who rave about FLCL. It's even more significant considering that compared to other series that found success outside the regular anime fan crowd like Bebop, it's very, very "anime-like", without much of the Western dressing of those shows.
I remember when I finished FLCL the first time, I figured that this was surely a sign of where anime would go in the coming years. er oops! |
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Kirikiri23
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of ANIME!!! |
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ninjaclown
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I meant what show? |
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Animehermit
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the Codex Alera by Jim Butcher |
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Kirikiri23
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An anime show [Mod Edit: Okay, seriously, we get it already. If you're not going to be more specific or really back up the claim then give it a rest. These one-liners are going nowhere and are doing nothing to promote any discussion. Besides, even if it is heavily anime-inspired, anime itself started from inspiration from western animation. Welcome to the logical world. - Keonyn] |
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Norse
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I'm lolling@Avatar being a ripoff
i don't think something's a ripoff if it's better than everything it's supposedly imitating. The person who said that, along with refusing to watch Western animation in general, is probably an intolerable weaboo with no friends. |
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Kirikiri23
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He friends with the person who asked the question |
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