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NEWS: Funimation Gets Hetalia, The Sacred Blacksmith Anime

I’m so sick of the “no one is being hurt” argument. There’s a reason why Disney strives so hard to keep their trademarked images out of doujinshi, and it’s because they’re afraid someone, somewhere out there WILL think it’s official, and somewhere someone will.

Doujinshi more is like drawing on a masterpiece, coping it out onto another paper, peeing all over both and then setting alight to the original. ^^ Of course, there is exceptions. But mostly.

1. The original manga is never touched in any way when a doujinka draws doujinshi.
2. The original is also not destroyed.
3. Doujinshi is not drawn out of malice.
4. Everyone is completely aware that doujinshi is not official

And littlegreenwolf, nice. While I know what you are talking about, the mostache is nothing. Doujinshi more is like drawing on a masterpiece, coping it out onto another paper, peeing all over both and then setting alight to the original. ^^ Of course, there is exceptions. But mostly.

Everyone arguing back and forth about whether or not doujinshi are art or parody or good or crayon scribbles or whether Vic is homophobic or not is missing the most important thing here.
It has absolutely nothing to do with this news article.

Can we go back to talking about the licenses? Please?

Maryohki wrote:

I've long since given up. Not because I'm wrong, but because those arguing me clearly won't be swayed with anything. If I had an interview with Vic involving him stating that gay people are the scum of the earth and for every gay act that takes place, God kills a kitten and you still wouldn't believe me. If you want to blindly believe in his innocence, fine. And um, if you seriously think that doujinshi can be likened to crayon scribbles on the Mona Lisa, then you really don't know much about art, and honestly you're a pretty closed-minded, narrow individual and I'd prefer to never associate with you <3.

In one corner, you have the Mona Lisa. It's a very much loved piece of art loved the world over. Now along comes this kid, and he thinks he can improve it by drawing on it with some crayons. This kid thinks himself an artist, possibly even as great as Da Vinci, and to him he just created the best thing ever by drawing boobs in blaring yellow crayon on the lovely Mona Lisa. The goal was to make her naked, and in adding those boobs he thinks he has improved on the original. He's achieved what he wanted to see. Some people think what he did was a blasphemous smack in the face of art, other people love it because it reminds them of when Marcel Duchamp of the Dadaist movement gave her a mostache. The art world has a variety of opinions on the subject.

In the next corner we have the beloved anime/manga Cardcaptor Sakura. Along comes a big boy who looks at her and knows exactly how he can improve on her image. He goes home, draws the little girl in various sexual situations, naked with her best friend Tomoyo, and then mass produces it to be handed out at the next Comiket. He's happy with his work because he's achieved what he wanted to see; Sakura Kinomoto naked and doing things she really shouldn't be doing, things CLAMP never wanted to draw her doing. Some people think it's a disgusting, blasphemous thing he has done, others love it because they just like that sort of thing they want to see whether or not it's something CLAMP intended. The world of anime fans has a variety of opinions on the subject.

I think the comparison of doujinshi being crayon scribbles on masterpiece artwork is a very good analogy for his argument depending on whether or not you like the mustache on the Mona Lisa. Either way with doujinshi you're taking an original piece of "art" and trying to make improvements on it. The skill levels may be really good in the person drawing the doujinshi, but no matter the skill level they've still hacking up someone else's art. I'm guessing Vic would say he doesn't like Marcel Duchamp's improvement on the artwork. Some artist would share this opinion, some would not, but in the end it's an opinion, one without the homophobic hate you're so keen on seeing.

It's not that we're not listening to you because we're full of ourselves and don't know anything about what art is. We're not listening to you because you've presented a poorly supported accusation.

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Doujinshi more is like drawing on a masterpiece, coping it out onto another paper, peeing all over both and then setting alight to the original. ^^ Of course, there is exceptions. But mostly.

Are you serious? And you say you buy doujinshi? What a massive laugh. Problems with this statement are as follows:

1. The original manga is never touched in any way when a doujinka draws doujinshi.
2. The original is also not destroyed.
3. Doujinshi is not drawn out of malice.
4. Everyone is completely aware that doujinshi is not official
5. Doujinshi is encouraged by the Japanese manga industry.
6. If you said this to most manga-ka, you'd probably get shunned forever (they'd punch you in the face, except Japanese people are too polite for that in most cases), because you're probably talking to someone who got their start in manga by drawing doujinshi.
7. Doujinshi artists usually are pretty talented. I've even seen doujinshi that looks better than the original.

And I say you don't really know jack about art because, if you can even equate manga to masterpiece artwork at all, there is something very wrong here.

Gosh just because one doesn't like yoai doesn't he or she a homophone. Vic is titled to his opinion, and has the right to his own comfort level.

If Vic doesn't want to sign a yoai doujinshi, then how is that homophobic, if it was hentai I sure he would have the same reaction. Whose to say he not somewhat squeamish to any type of relationship other than his own.

People go on and on about characters sexuality regardless of the evidence or lack their of presented. People are so adamant that certain characters are homosexual,

why is Vic homophobic for thinking they may be hetero.

Non-canon work can affect the original work. Case in point: Death Note, I don't remember reading anything in the manga that gave me a sense that L and Light were gay, other than neither had a love interest and the were handcuffed together which is basically the fetish fuel that a previous poster was talking about, pretty soon this became part of the characters identities (mostly Light's for some reason), to the point that the anime add a homo erotic scene to pander to the audience, which in turn made these thoughts worse.

Anyway though this was a slightly disappointing these newly acquired stuff. The Hetalia announcement really made my day (and reading this discussion thread kind of ruined it)

Historical political and military interaction between countries is represented in Hetalia as social and romantic interaction between the characters;