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Ashen Phoenix
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I believe, given the circumstances, that's perfectly acceptable. While I'm no big fan of sports anime, it's always a shame in my book to see a series suffer after it's been brought over. |
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hikaru004
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What would prob change their minds faster is more people buying the title imo. That was a nice dub too. |
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Blood-
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Just wanted to weigh in with a big vote of approval at ANN's decision to treat the Big Windup! info that came out of the last podcast as newsworthy. One of my biggest beefs about the anime industry in general and distribs specifically is that they are often informational black holes, letting us fans swim in the fetid waters of speculation. So I'm thrilled that representatives of a distrib actually came out and straight up provided information on future plans for a specific title. I hope more of this goes on in the future.
Your instinct for what is newsworthy was bang on, Egan. Kudos. |
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hikaru004
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I agree. It's best to have the truth given to us then to wallow in speculation and baseless hope. Thanks FUNi for being straight with us. |
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m_milburn
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Hey, You know renting is another option if you don't want to buy. Still...don't steal from the artist. As a guy who creates manga...I don't charge an arm and leg, but I would feel disrespected if people just swiped my manga off my artist booth without permission. If you don't buy anime, rent anime. If a particular anime hasn't been released in the USA yet, try Animelane.com or www.havsumpayshins.com |
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kyokun703
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I've only watched Cross Game and Big Windup of the ones you mentioned (downloading Touch, but haven't watched it yet). Cross Game, while definitely a baseball anime, is also a romance and heavily character driven. It's about Kou and Aoba and Wakaba and the people around them. They happen to play baseball. Big Windup just felt more about the game. It's very analytical (kinda has to be, since only two games are featured throughout the season). People complain that Mihashi is whiny and spineless, but he's not really, it's more like he was verbally abused and bullied. So the series is about him learning to trust and gain self-confidence and for people to see past his frail exterior. Yeah, there are BL tones (another complaint by some people), but it's for comedic effect, and it's obvious the creators are making light-hearted fun of it. Big Windup was the first baseball series which made me realize how much strategy goes into baseball, and I was impressed. I like both Big Windup and Cross Game very much, but for different reasons. |
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Zin5ki
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Relativist fallacies operate under the presupposition that propositions declared to have a subject- or situation-dependent truth value actually have a stronger and circumstantially invariant truth value. In each case of such an accusation being made, this denial of the relativist's basic premise must be demonstrated. In this case, the logical construction you give an example of, whilst admittedly true, needn't imply that relations between all pairs of propositions bear the same truth value regardless of other propositions' truth values. If we want a vaguely situation-dependant notion of a DVD's cheapness, there are numerous possibilities which, whilst perhaps not being economically or metaphysically watertight, will still be logically permissible. Let B stand for 'is a copy of Big Windup!', P for 'sells at a price of $n' (where n is a bound to a certain value), J and A for 'is a Japanese customer' and 'is an American customer' respectively, and the relation C(p,q) for 'p is cheap to q'. Then let us state the following: [1] (∀x)(∀y)((Bx ∧ Px ∧ Jy) → C(x,y)) [2] (∀x)(∀y)((Bx ∧ Px ∧ Ay) → ¬C(x,y)) Notice that [2] violates your condition, for it posits that the implication between Px and C(x,y) fails to hold in a certain circumstance, unlike the implication between a and b you give as an example. Nonetheless, [1] and [2] seem logically consistent premises, provided that Ay and Jy don't coincide. I don't assert that they are true however, for the relation C(p,q) needs to account for more than just the relation between a single person and a DVD in order to produce a truly elucidating and justifiable theorem. You mention that ikillchicken's supposed cultural relativism has some merit, but indeed you may still wish to disagree with such a view on normative grounds: perhaps you insist that anime ought to be considered cheap by but a single standard. I disagree, but as both you and I have shown, each of our stances can be logically accepted. |
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Kid Ryan
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I'm ONLY a manga cow because I can't afford to buy manga (no job) and I can't check out manga from my public library anymore because of a massive fee I have with them. Once that is all taken care of, I will try my best to get all of my manga from my public library, though my library doesn't always have everything, and also usually takes awhile to get in the latest volumes/manga. |
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hikaru004
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This is a time of recession. There's prob a lot more manga cows on the forum than people want to know. Your buying habits are your own business. It's always best to know your own financial limits imo and act accordingly. |
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dpkworldwide
Posts: 11 Location: Valencia, CA, USA |
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What sad, disappointing news! I listened to the podcast then read all the posts here before I decided to speak up myself.
Big Windup is such a great show, and indeed my favorite from the past couple of years. In fact, I now rank it tied for first place among my all time favorites, and I’m sorry that it doesn’t seem to be getting the attention (i.e. sales) that it deserves. I too couldn’t care less about the sport of baseball, but found myself riveted to the show because of the story and characters. I even feel I learned a thing or two about the sport, thanks to the wonderful use of the “inner dialogue” of the players during the games. I had to marathon episode after episode because I was on the edge of my seat wanting to know what would happen next. One thing I really admire about Funimation is that they license smaller shows like this knowing that they won’t be blockbusters, but that they’re something the fans want to see (unlike another despicable company whose name I cannot utter but which starts with a "V"...). They must have known it wasn’t going to move tens of thousands of units, but they do expect it to cover its own costs and make them some amount of profit. When I attended Adam’s panel at Anime Vegas last Labor Day weekend, I felt a bit uneasy because I sensed that Funimation didn’t exactly know how to place/promote it—but I hoped for the best. Guess my gut feeling was correct... I applaud the fans here who have supported the show with their hard-earned dollars. To those of you who are “sitting on the fence”, I’d encourage you to buy it now to show your support. Here’s my challenge: As others have mentioned, there’s a Funimation sale at rightstuf.com until January 18th. You can get both sets for $71.98, or $64.80 if you’re a “Got Anime?” club member—over $50 means free shipping. That translates to $2.77 or $2.49 per episode for a great series that deserves support. As was also mentioned, you can order online and mail them payment if you don’t have a credit card. Funimation (and Right Stuf) will, most importantly, be making money and moving units which is what they need to see. Is that a lot of money? It is for some, but think about it—many of you spend more per month texting drivel on your cell phones or paying to be able to surf through 300 channels of cable TV without finding anything to watch. What about me? Along with my already planned order, I will purchase a FOURTH (yes, that’s right) set of Big Windup that I will probably give away (I pre-ordered 2 sets—one for me and one as my “fansub penance” that I gave to a friend, then a third set I gave my baseball-playing nephews for Christmas). Those of you who own it already might have a friend you could give it to as a belated Christmas gift, maybe someone you know who plays baseball, perhaps some squealing fangirl in your anime club—or even buy a copy, donate it to your local library and take the tax writeoff! Unlike many younger anime fans, I’m an adult with a mortgage, health insurance premiums and a host of other bills. I’ve got to constantly look for work as an independent consultant to make ends meet. But I’m willing to eat smaller homemade lunches at the office and put off buying a couple of books I want for another month or two because supporting the shows I love with my wallet is a more important priority to me. I’ll get off my soapbox now, but hope I’ve inspired some of you to climb on this bandwagon. Wouldn’t it be great if next month the Sales & Marketing wonks at Funimation could look back at January and see a noticeable spike in sales for Big Windup? I don’t at all think hope is enitrely lost since, as has been mentioned, season 2 hasn’t even been made yet and we wouldn’t see a license until 2011 at the earliest. There’s still tons of time for Funimation to reconsider, but only if they see that season 1 sales are worthwhile. Now’s the time to act if at all possible. We’re all counting on YOU. To paraphrase an old saying, “‘Everyone’ thought ‘someone’ would buy it when actually ‘no-one’ did”. If you want this show to succeed, you need to step up now instead of shrugging and thinking “someone else will buy it, so it’ll all turn out okay”… ---Doug |
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crosswithyou
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I've personally always been pretty vocal about my love for Oofuri (cosplayed it at FanimeCon last year too) but I'm surprised at how many people have come out to express their disappointment over the no second season announcement. A lot of these people seem to still be on the fence about whether to buy or not, and I do hope that this piece of news doesn't steer anyone away from buying what's already been released.
What FUNimation needs right now is better sales for the series. If they see the numbers rise, they may reconsider and license the second season. |
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Egan Loo
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ADV stops Sailor Moon Manga Entertainment Expired Licenses 4Kids Cancels One Piece Production AN Entertainment Says Good-Bye to Risky Safety animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-08-10/tokyopop's-marmalade-boy-anime-license-expires animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-08-11/marmalade-boy-1-24-st-tail-anime's-licenses-expire TitleMatch Halts Production of ImaginAsian DVDs Bandai Entertainment Denies 5 cm per Second License (ADV confirms it no longer holds the rights) This is not about a distributor's decision not to license a new series, nor does it mean that this title will never come to North America again. This is about the largest North American anime distributor's decision to not continue licensing an existing licensed title. Last edited by Egan Loo on Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:43 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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The Count
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Anyway that was just a feeling I had based on the reaction Justin had to news on the ANNcast before this was posted. He seemed very  as was I. And even though the intent of this post was not to move units for FUNI I hope it does.
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Shiroi Hane
Encyclopedia Editor
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I was surprised you didn't link to an article on Kodocha, being so close to home and was even more surprised to find that there isn't one, unless it was rolled up somewhere in a convention report or something. |
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TatsuGero23
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Like kyokun703 said, Cross Game and Touch are definitely more about the characters first and then the game. Big Windup is definitely more focused on the baseball aspect. It's very analytical and you get a nice sense of the intricacies of the game as well as the characters. Big Windup is more traditional in the sense of being about the game, BUT does it differently from other traditional series with very human characters rather then the usual "super talented" or "only in a decade" type main character and focus on the strategy and science of the sport rather then crazy techniques or fastballs. It's strangely entrancing, this series. Check out one of the reviews for the series on ANN to get a better idea of what you get from it. Funi has episodes up on Youtube and Hulu too. The dubs are pretty good this time around. Coming from a primarily sub fan. |
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