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portgas
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Timely reviews for me. I had passed up on Ristorante Paradiso - I didn't think I'd like it, and only picked up on it in the past week. I should have watched this much sooner. I've enjoyed it enough so far that I've ordered both the manga on which it's based.
I don't find the narrative structure a problem. In the case of RP, it's driven more by the necessity of combining the material from two different books and i think there was a desire to keep the pacing and general tone of the manga. Ristorante Paradiso, I suspect, covers Nicoletta, and Gente is the waiter's stories. I do think that even this material was thin sothat they had to improvise a story. The birthday party episode was so out of character and off tone to what I'd seen so far that I think that it was an addition. I'll have to wait until July when Gente is released to see if I'm right. Reviews of the series seem to dance around what people really have a problem with in this series. Put any spin and polish that you like as a criticism, but fundamentally it's the age of the waiters. It's sad that people who would not tolerate ridiculing someone because of their race, religion or sex have no problem with doing so because of someone's age. As a person who resembles the criticism, I also resent it. It denies people their humanity. Some of the great screen romances involved couples where the ages were quite different: Bogart and Bacall - on screen and in life. Audrey Hepburn and William Holden in Roman Holiday (so appropriate) and Hepburn (again} with Bogart in Sabrina. These guys weren't forty! And nothing goes on? It's subtle, but you can see the immature Nicolletta begin to understand her mother and herself. This is not as series of big dramatic moments. So far, I like what I see in Ristorane Paradiso. It's not the greatest anime, but I can enjoy it for it's good points. Oh, and I like Durarara quite a lot, too. |
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Blood-
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Oh, if you mean Durarara!! has the most gateway potential of any anime just from the Winter 2010 season, then I would probably agree. I thought you meant it was a good gateway anime in general (i.e. relative to anime from any year). |
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sunflower
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Didn't Ristorante Paradiso run in an ero men's magazine? I thought Manga Erotics F was a seinen mag, which kind of creeped me out even more considering the ages of the male characters (Who were considered old men by the owner 20 years before the present day in the story. Ewww.) |
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fuuma_monou
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Seinen as in "young men" or "porn/erotica"? "Erotics" seems to be bit of Engrish that doesn't actually indicate erotic content. Actually, what I've been able to Google up indicates that Erotics F is an "alternative manga" magazine. Aoi Hana is serialized in it as well, and I'm pretty sure that's nowhere near ecchi/hentai. |
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LaFreccia
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I don't think age difference is as big of a deal when you get older. If someone who is 35 has a relationship with someone who is 45, is that really such a bad thing?
Besides spoiler[the oldest guy in RP doesn't want to be in a relationship with a woman; he is a widower and feels satisfied that he had the love of his life. The real action revolves around a guy who is probably in his 40s (and divorced). They specifically contrast the two. BTW, the guy does not pounce on the younger woman -- far from it.] It really is not as eww as people seem to think. In fact the most appalling thing in RP IMO is the way Nicoletta is treated by her mother! |
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Blood-
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Well, as a single old fogie (going on 45), naturally I HEARTILY approve of story lines that feature dewy-eyed nubile women grooving on *ahem* "mature" gentlemen...
...but you still wouldn't get me to watch a presumptive snoozefest like Paradiso without a gun firmly jammed against my temple. 
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vashfanatic
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It is definitely not a pornographic magazine. Even Samura's run with Bradherley's Coach, which had a lot of graphic content, was more of a horror/drama story. But it is definitely meant for grown-ups. And by the way, Erin: I guess I was the reverse with Harry Potter: by the seventh book I no longer cared as much about Harry and his gang of friends as I did about the older generation. If you'd dedicated a whole book to them in between 6 and 7 to flesh out the backstory in that instead of just hints with the penseive thing, I would be a happy, happy lady. And as much as I'm enjoying Durarara!! so far, I actually agree with Blood- that it's not a perfect gateway anime, but for reasons people haven't mentioned before: the copious references to Japanese pop culture that litter the entire series. Imagine following the dialog between Karisawa and Yumasaki, the resident otaku pair, without ever having seen another anime in your life. Baccano! works better because it wouldn't require a Westerner, and especially an American, to be familiar with anything particularly Japanese. |
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LaFreccia
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Starting to drift off topic, but I think Trigun is perfect for the purpose you describe. It plays at being a Western, especially in the earlier episodes. Plus, it's a great show.  Maybe the upcoming Trigun: Badlands movie will recharge interest in anime in the broader public?
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