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akitainu
Joined: 13 Apr 2005
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 9:49 pm
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I must agree. That voice is creepier than any of the show's central themes. One strange point in his review, he ho-hums the dub, yet still refers to Shonen Bat as Lil' Slugger. Myself, I prefer subtitled anime, but realize there are epic battles to the contrary.
So why would he, in his infinite reviewer's wisdom, still drop the name of Lil' Slugger? If you waive away one version, you can't hold onto the familiar for the other.
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Nani?
Joined: 20 Jul 2003
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 10:25 pm
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Key wrote: | Here's a question for those who have finished the series: what is the significance, if any, of the very last scene in episode 8 (the episode where the trio is trying to commit suicide)? I got the significance of the scenes right before that, but that last shot didn't make sense to me even on repeat viewings. |
Yes, I know it's an old post. The significance is thatthe people taking the picture totally ignore thier pressence, even though they are complete strangers who crowd in closely. The implication is that they've suceeded. They just don't realise it. I suspect that's why Shonen Bat runs when he encounters them.
And yes, the voice of the NPR guy was weird, but he did a good job of describeing the series. I do think the use of the english dub and Lil'Slugger was just to cater to mainstream (though the liberal shade thereof) America.
From that standpoint, it was a good editorial desicion not to scare off "Anime Virgins" from something new or have them dismiss it reflexively.
All the Best,
Nani?
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Key
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:30 pm
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Wow, I had totally forgotten about my question on this. . .
Nani? wrote: | Yes, I know it's an old post. The significance is thatthe people taking the picture totally ignore thier pressence, even though they are complete strangers who crowd in closely. The implication is that they've suceeded. They just don't realise it. I suspect that's why Shonen Bat runs when he encounters them. |
No, that part I got. I was referring to the scene after that, where the camera zooms in on the condom machine. akitainu's theory is a decent one, but I am curious about whether anyone has other thoughts on the matter.
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Hiphop Samurai
Joined: 09 Mar 2005
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 9:59 pm
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Yes! Paranoia Agent is the BEST!!!
So are the other works of Kon.
Its cool because you get to see a bit of all his earlier works in this series.
Kon needs to make MORE ANIME series and movies like Paranoia Agent.
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DKL
Joined: 08 May 2005
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 8:54 pm
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Key wrote: | Wow, I had totally forgotten about my question on this. . .
Nani? wrote: | Yes, I know it's an old post. The significance is thatthe people taking the picture totally ignore thier pressence, even though they are complete strangers who crowd in closely. The implication is that they've suceeded. They just don't realise it. I suspect that's why Shonen Bat runs when he encounters them. |
No, that part I got. I was referring to the scene after that, where the camera zooms in on the condom machine. akitainu's theory is a decent one, but I am curious about whether anyone has other thoughts on the matter. |
his take on it is pretty spot-on... if I had to say anything, it would probably be more simple:
"Why give birth when people will just kill themselves"
the condom means... er... you should use it more! as to not waste life *or something*
my take on the episode "Family Planning":
I suspect they all died in that building after the scene where they were eating up pills and stuff
they lost their shadows after that incident... notice how the light in that small apartment room casted their shadows on to the walls...
anyway, this was a very interesting ghost tale
I need the 4th disk immediately, although I can somewhat guess the ending already... and that it has something to do with the fact that: *this is a guess... I just need to mention it just in case I'm correct... so I can gloat*
Maromi's character design wasn't done by TSUKIKO, she STOLE the design, this is why she can't come up with a follow up... there's a bunch of other evidence too that proves this, but I'll leave it at that
okay, please don't tell me if I'm correct or not... I'll find out in a couple of days anyway...
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Ovalshine
Joined: 09 May 2005
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 1:26 am
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Key wrote: | No, that part I got. I was referring to the scene after that, where the camera zooms in on the condom machine. akitainu's theory is a decent one, but I am curious about whether anyone has other thoughts on the matter. |
I didn't see a theory at all. That part was there just to show the title of the episode (at least according to the DVD's english text). I've only seen up to episode 10 (last 3 hopefully in two days) and only episodes 8 and 9 had the title shown at that point.
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DKL
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 1:34 am
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well, yeah, but the title of the episode somewhat reflected the episode itself... *huh?*
I like how they insert the episode names in random parts of the show, that was a lot of fun
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Randall Miyashiro
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 10:31 pm
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One thing that seperates Paranoia Agent from the other Kon series (IMO) is the supernatural events really do occur in the physical world and are not in the minds of the main characters Although it has been some time since I've seen Perfect Blue and Millenium Actress, I think this was the case. There were many things that made me feel as though Kon was repeating himself, but that major difference did surprise me.
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Ovalshine
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 1:08 am
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Randall Miyashiro wrote: | One thing that seperates Paranoia Agent from the other Kon series (IMO) is the supernatural events really do occur in the physical world and are not in the minds of the main characters Although it has been some time since I've seen Perfect Blue and Millenium Actress, I think this was the case. There were many things that made me feel as though Kon was repeating himself, but that major difference did surprise me. |
Well....
I think Kon was having us see scenes unfold through the eyes of dillusion, that the supernatural events weren't real, nor exactly in the minds of the main characters, but more or less symbolisms of paranoia dillusions and the battles against them. Kon directed the dillusions well enough to make us wonder what was real and what was dillusion and if dillusions, what were they representing in reality.
Then again, for all I know, you could be right.
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animaniac
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 2:51 am
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To be expected from the man who brought us tokyo godfathers, millenium actress and others. A fantastic anime
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