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Emerje



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:19 am Reply with quote
For those of us that kept saying this would effect mainstream anime this isn't very unexpected news. Those saying this law was only going to effect lolicons must be shocked.

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Weekly Gendai's source at Tokyo MX added, "We are popular among students as a station known for its strong presence of anime," but the station may have to reconsider hiring anime fans among new graduates. For example, the job application sheet may have the question, "If you were to take a foreign friend sightseeing in Japan, where would you take him or her? If the student were to write "Akihabara," the station might ask him or her to leave the application process.


Could you explain the reason for this and how the change in their hiring policy is related to the bill. Seems rather prejudice to me.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:23 am Reply with quote
How reliable is this magazine?
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Big Hed



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:28 am Reply with quote
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If the student were to write "Akihabara," the station might ask him or her to leave the application process.


Holy shit, this is hilarious. Comedy gold. Laughing

v1cious wrote:
How reliable is this magazine?


A pertinent question. Based on the above I'd really like to know, because that kind of attitude is stupid-funny.
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Zilan



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:31 am Reply with quote
Huh? TV tokyo and MX already censor everything. This article seems like It's begging for flames

Nothing will change. As long as ATX isn't policed than all will be right in the world.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:46 am Reply with quote
v1cious wrote:
How reliable is this magazine?

662 on the 2ch posts says it's a sleeze rag but no idea how reliable the comment is Razz

Zilan wrote:
Huh? TV tokyo and MX already censor everything. This article seems like It's begging for flames
MX censors but I thought they were toward the lower end (less) of the censoring.
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Zilan



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:58 am Reply with quote
bayoab wrote:
v1cious wrote:
How reliable is this magazine?

662 on the 2ch posts says it's a sleeze rag but no idea how reliable the comment is Razz

Zilan wrote:
Huh? TV tokyo and MX already censor everything. This article seems like It's begging for flames
MX censors but I thought they were toward the lower end (less) of the censoring.


Unless It's on TBS or AT-X It's almost always censored.
Censors that pop up on these 2 stations are intentional to drive DVD/Blu-Ray sales.

MX always censors direct panty shots. Never seen boobs either.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:59 am Reply with quote
Emerje wrote:
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Weekly Gendai's source at Tokyo MX added, "We are popular among students as a station known for its strong presence of anime," but the station may have to reconsider hiring anime fans among new graduates. For example, the job application sheet may have the question, "If you were to take a foreign friend sightseeing in Japan, where would you take him or her? If the student were to write "Akihabara," the station might ask him or her to leave the application process.


Could you explain the reason for this and how the change in their hiring policy is related to the bill. Seems rather prejudice to me.

Emerje

If this were true, it would be on the basis of weeding out people with tendencies against the law, that is, with criminal tendencies (like not having problems with teenagers watching anime with pantyshots in them).

That the acts in question were not illegal until a few weeks ago when some dimwits decided to turn a large segment of the japanese population into criminals by passing a stupid law wouldn't factor into the matter.

So yes, it'd be prejudice and yes, it'd be monumentally stupid. So let's hope it's not true (although I'm low in optimism).
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ConanSan



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:27 am Reply with quote
Well, you have to remember that this is the country in which you're Guilty before you're innocent and if you are in a car accident, you caused that accident with criminal intent.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:30 am Reply with quote
And thus I spit in the face of all those fools who said this law wouldn't hurt the anime/manga market.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:19 am Reply with quote
child of Lilith wrote:
And thus I spit in the face of all those fools who said this law wouldn't hurt the anime/manga market.

Then thus I throw shit in you face and piss in your breakfast, good sir.

This does not affect anime/manga market what so ever. What it affect is tv BROADCASTING and weekly magazine publishing. Just buy/DL DVD and tankobons - they will have no censorship.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:29 am Reply with quote
Don't let the magazine fool you. I heard from a friend of mine living in Tokyo that all the 7-elevens there are relocating their 16+ Manga to the Porn shelves(despite not containing any actual sex).I also heard a rumor that legendary classics such as Akira are also affected by the Youth Ordinance if they continue under circulation. That alone already makes me staunchly opposed to the bill. (That and the fact it was proposed by a sexist/xenophobe/racist like Shintaro Ishihara who cannot appreciate one of Japan's greatest pop cultures.)

Freedom of Speech and Expression should have no bounds or limits. I like my Anime & Manga the way it is. I love all the expressions unique to that artform. I love the controversy it strikes. Don't take all that away from us.

Come on Japan, we know you can turn this around. Don't let the right-wing extremist hi-jack your system and impose their brand of "morals" which really curtails entertainment. Don't become another America.

*Hopes for Japanese equivalent to the Tunisa's revolution, but with an otaku touch* =p
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Salsaman1991



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:37 am Reply with quote
6Hokage wrote:
child of Lilith wrote:
And thus I spit in the face of all those fools who said this law wouldn't hurt the anime/manga market.

Then thus I throw shit in you face and piss in your breakfast, good sir.

This does not affect anime/manga market what so ever. What it affect is tv BROADCASTING and weekly magazine publishing. Just buy/DL DVD and tankobons - they will have no censorship.


Yeah, because musicians who don't get radio air time have record sales on iTunes.

Don't delude yourself. This WILL hurt the industry. The fact that a TV station has already turned to cutting ties to anime fans is just the beginning. Soon, they'll refuse to air anything that even requires censoring. And if you can't get your show to air anywhere, how do you expect to sell the DVD? The studio and production commitee will think "might as well produce something tamer and get air-time on a station than end up with a sure-fire failure in our hands"
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:13 am Reply with quote
6Hokage wrote:
This does not affect anime/manga market what so ever. What it affect is tv BROADCASTING and weekly magazine publishing. Just buy/DL DVD and tankobons - they will have no censorship.

Oh good - so the minority of anime that are released as OVA are in the clear.
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Emerje



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:24 am Reply with quote
Zilan wrote:
bayoab wrote:
v1cious wrote:
How reliable is this magazine?

662 on the 2ch posts says it's a sleeze rag but no idea how reliable the comment is Razz

Zilan wrote:
Huh? TV tokyo and MX already censor everything. This article seems like It's begging for flames
MX censors but I thought they were toward the lower end (less) of the censoring.


Unless It's on TBS or AT-X It's almost always censored.
Censors that pop up on these 2 stations are intentional to drive DVD/Blu-Ray sales.

MX always censors direct panty shots. Never seen boobs either.


It's possible that they'll be looking beyond just fanservice and go after inuendo and implied situations as well so even if the show has censored images it may still need to pass for story content. Seikon no Qwaser II for example probably wont stand a chance if what the magazine says is true.

Emerje
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Ermat_46



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:05 am Reply with quote
Zilan wrote:
bayoab wrote:
v1cious wrote:
How reliable is this magazine?

662 on the 2ch posts says it's a sleeze rag but no idea how reliable the comment is Razz

Zilan wrote:
Huh? TV tokyo and MX already censor everything. This article seems like It's begging for flames
MX censors but I thought they were toward the lower end (less) of the censoring.


Unless It's on TBS or AT-X It's almost always censored.
Censors that pop up on these 2 stations are intentional to drive DVD/Blu-Ray sales.

MX always censors direct panty shots. Never seen boobs either.


LOL.

It's a direct consequence of the bill. It can't be helped.
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