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Angel M Cazares
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I am cool with most of the pricing AoA uses on their in-house releases (The Garden of Sinners DVD set being the exception), but I agree with Kazemon15 that you cannot let your love for an anime blind you. I happily paid $150 for Bakemonogatari (one of my top 20 favorite animes of all time), but if AoA had priced it above $300, I would have had a lot of trouble justifying that expense. |
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ShindoW
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I love the series, too, but I'm not paying the insane price for it. If it had a dub at the same price I would consider. I also don't care for bluray when it comes to newer animation, so I really don't want to pay more just for that, either.
I need to pick up the DVD re-release. Nice to hear its going for $50, but so bummed I had a con the weekend the LE was announced. I totally missed out... |
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Shiratori1
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Yeah, I'm calling B.S. on the idea that most fans who want Anime releases, specifically Aniplex of America's, have to choose between buying them or paying their mortgage, rent, bills, etc. and have absolutely no discretionary funds at all. The fact of the matter is that there are a number of fans, particularly casual fans (probably including some of the individuals on this page complaining about the unannounced price of this release), that could buy Aniplex of America's releases, but instead choose to buy other non-essential items with their discressionary money (ex. new clothes, shoes, video games, electronics). The fact of the matter is that if you really like series that are available for purchase and want to own them, sometimes you have to give up other non-essential purchases and spending to pay for it (I haven't bought any video games in the past several years because I made the decision to buy the anime series that I love and want to support). As far as my previous post is concerned, I was not telling people to live outside of their means (that was a false implication on your part). What I was implying (maybe you didn't catch it) is that there is a large number of Anime fans in the U.S. who have been spoiled by bargain bin pricing over the past several years to the point that if a series doesn't exactly fit their ultimate wants and desires and isn't at a bargain basement price, they won't buy it (regardless of the fact that Anime companies "giving away" their releases for rock bottom prices is unsustainable, and is one of the factors that has contributed to the U.S. Anime industry's troubles over the past several years). Ultimately, if fans want the U.S. Anime industry to continue to exist and for the companies involved to continue to release shows, they are going to have to learn to accept new pricing structures for releases (anyone who says otherwise is simply wrong, out for themselves, and doesn't care about the industry's survival).
The idea of affordability with regards to the prices of Anime releases is a subjective term. How its defined varies from fan to fan. Just because the price of a release may not be acceptable and reasonable to you doesn't mean that other fans as a whole share that opinion (ex: people have already pre-ordered the import of the first season, despite it being outside of your "reasonable/unreasonable" range). As far as my "analogy" is concerned, it is fair in my opinion based on the explanation of it that I provided above (you are welcome to disagree with it) and I will continue to use it. |
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Angel M Cazares
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I absolutely agree with your thinking. It is so hard to find people who believe that higher pricing is what the (R1) anime industry needs to survive and be healthy. The idea that one day a company like FUNi will be able to sell on average 25,000 copies per series at $30 a piece is very unrealistic. However, for as much I support higher pricing in anime, I do not want anime to cost more than $10 per episode. That is roughly similar to a third of what Japanese pay (paying $30 per episode is too much money). Last edited by Angel M Cazares on Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:28 am; edited 1 time in total |
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PurpleWarrior13
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Aniplex's billingual releases are usually made specifically for us, and are not imports. Thus, they are usually significantly cheaper. At least their Madoka singles (regular, not special edition) cost about the same as DVD singles from 10 years ago. The sub-only Blue Exorcist DVDs were the same, and those weren't imports either. I wouldn't buy them now though, because of the dub (which will probably be released as soon as it's run on Neon Alley is finished), and the fact that the picture quality wasn't that good, from what I hear. Aniplex essentially has two pricing models: REGULAR releases (Durarara, Madoka Magica), that cost $30-$40 per DVD single. It's far from perfect, but at least it's workable. There are also the special edition releases, like what they did with Madoka, that cost $80, which wouldn't be bad for a complete collection, but considering it's only a third of the series, they're clearly aiming for the die-hard die-hards here. and IMPORT releases (Fate/Zero, Bakemonogatari) that cost hundreds or even THOUSANDS just for a couple dozen episodes. However, it being an import product direct from Japan, the pricing is gonna be high. With that said, very few DVD or Blu-ray sets are worth hundreds of dollars. The Dark Shadows boxset cost $600 MSRP (but you can find it for as low as $300), and that had all 1,225 episodes of that series. If Aniplex licensed a series I liked, I would just wait for them to actually RELEASE the show itself, after the expensive imports are gone. I just want them to get their product out as well as... pretty much every other company (including Discotek and Nozomi) and sell directly on sites like Amazon.com (their releases do have listings on Amazon, but only for the seller marketplace). They'd have more customers, and make a lot more money that way. There's probably a lot of people who don't even KNOW about these releases because they're only sold fairly quietly on a few websites. |
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Angel M Cazares
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The Bakemonogatari set is not an import. Speaking of which, I would say that AoA has another pricing structure in their sub only, BD, complete collection sets (Bakemonogatari and Nisemonogatari) for $149.98-189.98 SRP. I hope they continue to do this with nice titles that look best in HD. |
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superdry
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Hyperbole much? Thousands? Very, very, very few series approach that mark. Majority of 1 and 2-cour series cost less than $1000 to buy. |
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PurpleWarrior13
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I think that might be something of a "middle of the road" thing, considering they didn't even do a DVD release (I currently don't own a Blu-ray player, so I couldn't get them even if I wanted to). I would guess if it sold decently enough, they would do a cheaper re-release without all the bells and whistles. I don't need all the extra crap. I just want the damn show on DVD (not Bakemono- in particular though. The only shows Aniplex has that I like are Durarara, Madoka, Fate/Zero, and Blue Exorcist. The latter two will likely see releases similar to the former two). Aniplex needs to be more consistent. They're so hard to predict. I do like that they pursue TV broadcast though. I wish companies like Sentai would be more involved (Persona 4 on Toonami. Nuff said...). Durarara was a great fit for [adult swim] and Madoka is currently on ABC2 in Australia. At least they have Durarara on iTunes for a decent price. If they put EVERYTHING for sale on iTunes (or available for streaming on Netflix and/or in English on Hulu), they'd be just fine in my books.
I was giving the full price range.  Notice I said "even".
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unicron02
Posts: 9 Location: Barksdale AFB |
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Not sure if this has been pointed out yet, but the article stated that, "character designer Hiroyuki Oda is once again adapting Hiro Kanzaki's original novel illustrations...". This is a bit of misinformation as Hiroyuki Oda and Hiro Kanzaki are the same person. He goes by Hiroyuki Oda when being credited as an animator or producing music (also goes by 鼻そうめんP - Hana Soumen P) and as Hiro Kanzaki (or his circle name TabGraphics) when doing illustrations.
In fact the ANN page for Hiro Kanzaki even shows that they are the same person person#54205. |
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Spotlesseden
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it will be probably on both. Aniplex like to put their anime on alot of websites. |
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