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NEWS: New Zealand Man Jailed for Possessing Hentai Anime


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walw6pK4Alo



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:31 pm Reply with quote
I'd really like to know what he was watching.

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"The distribution of [such sexual images] is damaging. You have to ask what impact does it have even if it's not harming [an individual child]."


Nothing at all, just like any other porn of legal adults or fictional creations.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:32 pm Reply with quote
Sounds very moe, heh-heh-heh...
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Kutsu



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:33 pm Reply with quote
Megiddo wrote:
Kutsu wrote:

Is a man with hentai anime a threat to society ?

Eh, it says he assaulted a teen boy. I'd consider him a threat to society.


That's true, however he was apparently judged and punished and he went through rehabilitation programs precisely not to be a threat anymore. The only thing he is being judged for in this case is the possession of hentai anime and that alone doesn't make someone a threat.
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Cecilthedarkknight_234



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:35 pm Reply with quote
walw6pK4Alo wrote:
I'd really like to know what he was watching.

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"The distribution of [such sexual images] is damaging. You have to ask what impact does it have even if it's not harming [an individual child]."


Nothing at all, just like any other porn of legal adults or fictional creations.


that's what I want to know as well.
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Mohawk52



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:37 pm Reply with quote
Does NZ sell violent video games? If they do, don't they know that violent video games could encourage people "to migrate from there to the real thing." Wink

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walw6pK4Alo



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:39 pm Reply with quote
Mohawk52 wrote:
Does NZ sell violent video games? If they do, don't they know that violent video games could encourage someone to try the real thing? Wink


Oh, and god forbid they ever receive any R-rated films.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:42 pm Reply with quote
Mohawk52 wrote:
Kastel wrote:
USA USA USA
Idaho Idaho Idaho! Wink


Great, now I'm hungry for potatoes.
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Escaflowne2001



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:49 pm Reply with quote
If you visit Gelbooru sometimes after you viewed about 10 pages for the first time. Sometimes you get a on page pop-up for 3D CGI rendered porn which features trolls/pixies. I wonder if it's that. Exactly looks pretty high quality. Never looked at it myself as it's not really my thing.
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Parse Error



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:56 pm Reply with quote
Meanwhile:
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A senior teacher who filmed up girls' skirts with a secret pen camera for his own "sexual pleasure and gratification" has avoided jail today.

So apparently sexually exploiting children isn't as bad as watching cartoon porn of fictional pixies and trolls. I remember growing up on Earth, but I no longer have any idea what crazy planet I somehow ended up on now.
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NGK



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:09 pm Reply with quote
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This is just ridiculous. Another guy sent to jail for looking at crazy hentai for silly fun.

I have very mixed views on the whole manga/anime censorship matter, on one hand im disgusted by lolicon, how alot of our fandom deem it as acceptable and how it has grown so much that there is now a market in japan for it, but sending a guy to jail and putting him on the sex offenders register for looking at a cartoon....wit.

We should be putting more pressure on the distribution and sale of this filth in the japan(i actually approved of the recent regulation on manga and anime, it cleaned yaoi right up) yes, but not randomly sending people to jail for looking at sum cartoon pixies and trolls gein at it




That regulation you're referring to (a.k.a. Ishihara's law) so far only affected:

- Non-R18-Labeled mangas with strong content(s)

spoiler[

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2011/02/17/manga-canned-after-tokyo-deems-reprint-harmful/
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2012/10/23/tokyo-bans-more-indefensible-manga/

]


- and mostly shoujo mangas with strong content, no R18 label.

spoiler[

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/10/30/prefecture-banning-ero-shoujo-manga-as-harmful/
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/09/11/ero-shoujo-manga/

]


The lolicon stuff you detest will pretty much continue to thrive uninterrupted because of COMIKET, and the fact that lolicon-ish mangas already come with R18 label (authorities in Japan... which forever ensures low sales and out-of-sight-out-of-mind in all but otaku stores in Japan.



Again, in Japan under "Ishihara's Law", authorities are only concerned whether the manga or anime (on DVD/Bluray) in question comes with R18 sticker. Authors are still free to publish anything imaginable but as long as they clearly distinguish what's deemed appropriate for General Audience (no R18 sticker) and what should be relegated to R18 corner (sticker required and stored in the backrooms)
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Dark Absol



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:20 pm Reply with quote
Better not go to New Zealand then. :/
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mdreura



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:21 pm Reply with quote
Megiddo wrote:
Kutsu wrote:

Is a man with hentai anime a threat to society ?

Eh, it says he assaulted a teen boy. I'd consider him a threat to society.


I Am Not A Laywer, but in most states in the US, an assault charge doesn't mean you've actually laid a finger on anyone, it only means that you made someone fear that you were about to. Actually harming another person is the battery in assault and battery.

We don't know the nature of the prior conviction, and locking a man up like a dog based on flawed assumptions of past wrongdoings is an injustice if there ever was one.
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Actar



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:24 pm Reply with quote
Honestly speaking, I can never understand why people have such fascination and need to impose their values and morals on others. Why is there a need to prevent others from enjoying what they like if it doesn't harm or affect anyone else, especially yourself?

Violent video games, R-rated movies, lolicon manga and anime. If you don't like them or find them objectionable, here's a suggestion for you:

Don't play/watch/read them.

It's as simple as that.
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NGK



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:32 pm Reply with quote
As per article

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The characters' depictions as young, child-like creatures led to concerns that the anime could illicit real-world child abuse. Bell also commented that animated depictions of child abuse are a "huge" problem in Japan but noted that no child was harmed in the production of these images.


If it's such a big problem, the Japanese Mass-GOMI* would be all over this... but it's not and the comentator above is overstating.

* mass-gomi = lamestream media


As I said above, they're only a "huge problem" when mangas are not properly defined into 2 simple categories:

- General Audience
- R18
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TitanXL



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:41 pm Reply with quote
Have to protect those fictional drawings and characters.
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