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| Seanb ANN Reviewer  Posts: 73 Location: RI, but Colorado is still home |
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| Don't just look at it from the controversy angle either. AX is the biggest convention in the US now, and whether or not it was intended, Man-Faye has become part of its culture and lore. At this point, I can't really recall when someone didn't wonder before AX "if Man-Faye is going to be there." In my mind, he's an expected part of the festivities now.
The man's name is invoked in the same way Sailor Bubba's is. I don't expect newer fans to know the whole story behind Man-Faye. But it's not going to hurt anyone to know the whole story behind him. It's a little part of the US otaku culture now. |
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| venom_aa Posts: 10 Location: Mexicali, Mexico |
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 I have seen worst things than man faye at another cons..Like a highly overweigthed hairy woman dressed as SMoon (comicon 2004).
For the part of overexposing some parts (*cough* hairy b**t) I have seen girls on AX barely covering her breast..a felicias costume  .
So i don't think his ban at AX is a thing of "morals" if by best chance theyre just trying to get away of any "negative" publicity. Imagine a rigth wing anti-gay/religous group getting a pic of man faye hughing a kid. 
As thing are right now, man faye is being discriminated by Ax and he has every right to protest against being banned from AX. If they want to really put an end to this controversy they should either lift the ban on man faye or get their policies about costumes writed down and avaiable to all people that goes to the con enforcing them on both women and men equally. |
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xstylus Posts: 170 |
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This is the first and only issue of this policy we know of. For a "draconian policy" it sure seems rather under-utilized, wouldn't you say? Also, as far as I understand it, *he* isn't banned, the costume is. But don't quote me on that. As Mark Chadwick had told him in 2004, we're on his side, and we were. That is, up until the costume crossed the threshold to where we received complaints. Yeah, there are girls that wear much more revealing outfits. People don't complain, thus we let them go. We're not the Fashion Police, the attendees are. At 2004 I saw a guy in the oh-so-populated dealer hall who was in NOTHING but tightie-whities and a fig leaf (Happatai cosplay, I think) which I would chalk as riskier than Man-Faye's outfit, but no-one complained so we were cool with it. In Man-Faye's case, a complaint was lodged to the ACC who then told us to deal with it. To my understanding, the person lodging the complaint with the ACC wasn't even an attendee, yet was attending one of the other conventions AX usually shares space with, but I'm not 100% on that. Most of those other cons we share with are usually religious ones. I think that year it was Kenneth Copeland Ministries. You do the math. In any case, we asked Man-Faye to wear a trenchcoat, and he did, for a while. We then received another complaint, and the word was that he took off the trenchcoat for poses. Whether he actually did or didn't is irrelevant. It was the second formal complaint filed against him after his warning, so we had no choice but to act. I understand that people (and even many AX attendees) love Man-Faye. Right on, more power to him. But 34,999 fans will be swiftly outweighed by a reasonably based formal complaint.
Sounds like it's you who has no idea who anime fans are. In case you hadn't noticed, Anime is now being shown on cartoon network and has been reaching younger audiences. The state of anime today is not the same as it was back in the day of the 16 to 30 age group demographic. With the age demographic of anime already having entered into the younger ages, this means we can get in even MORE trouble if things go south. We're not going to go seek-and-destroy anything that's not "family friendly". Heck, we might as well shut down the con if we did that. But if a formal complaint is lodged, we MUST act. If you want to lurk in the public areas of Expo in costume, right on. In fact, that's REALLY pretty sharp thinking and I commend that. No-one can complain about you there, and in fact the neutrality of that area makes it a great place for cosplayers to congregate without fear of complaint. For the record, we don't hate Man-Faye. But we do look at him as something that was funny one day, kinda funny the next, and then was a dead over-beaten horse that just wouldn't go away the next. Troy Williams AX2005 Domestic Guest Relations Manager (The opinions of this post are my own, and do not necessarily reflect the standpoint of AX or SPJA.) |
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Mohawk52 Posts: 3858 Location: Celebrating Lindsey Hawker murder suspect arrest, in Basingstoke, UK. |
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Man-Fayes. Some mothers do have them.  |
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ssjlonewolf Posts: 23 |
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| See not matter what someone says about him, no matter how much u want to kick his butt, or hate him, you don't have to like him but you gotta respect him for doing what he's doing. He has enough faith in himself to keep going out there every year to ax and other cons and doing his thing. Props my friend. I sure as hell couldnt do it | ||||
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| Zac ANN Executive Editor  Posts: 4298 Location: Death Star Cocktail Lounge |
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I don't really see what's brave or heroic about putting on a trashy costume you're not built for and standing around at a convention. Why people regard this guy as some kind of "hero" when he's just an attention-seeking narcissist is pretty far beyond me. |
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jay saenz Posts: 81 Location: Costa Rica |
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| I feel better now... and still can´t find how this guy represents the right to free expression? It is just discusting, and instead of being a way of honor your favorite character, is more like making fun of it.
I m not against bad looking cosplayers... but i belive that you gotta do things right. If you are not... well... good looking or slim... pick other character. In Costa Rica, a good friend of mine cosplay MR Satan from Dragon Bal... he worked a lot in his hair and the costume and did a great job. Mr Satan as my friend, is not a bishounen... it was just the right character for the right person. I m a skinny hairy guy... trust me... for my self esteem and for the respect i have for other people, i woundn´t do a cosplay if i know that i will make people feel bad in any way. But... people is strange... perhaps this guy don´t care and its only looking for attention. Of course, people reward him. By the way... i found this link about the issue (warning: some people might be ofended by it though i found it funny) http://www.catsonmars.com/ |
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| Starwind Amada Posts: 981 Location: Easton, PA, USA |
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| Any middle-aged man who dresses up in a skimpy female outfit has some serious problems to work out. And this man's obsession with keeping Bebop on the air is a joke. According to that site, he has seen it run over 12 times and he has the entire series on DVD. I don't even think he's a true anime fan; he's just some poor, lonely Bebop fanboy who deserves to be banned from EVERY single convention. Sailor Bubba, too. All these guys are doing is making anime fans look like a bunch of mindless losers who like to cross-dress in disgusting ways.
And as for that Mega-Amelia person: Get the hell over yourself. Sure, the dub of Slayers was bad, but that doesn't give you the right to parade around yelling Hulk-esque dialogue while looking like a fat sack of crap. You ain't gonna get no guys (or girls) that way. |
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| Zac ANN Executive Editor Posts: 4298 Location: Death Star Cocktail Lounge |
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The article was a joke, dude. |
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| Starwind Amada Posts: 981 Location: Easton, PA, USA |
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| How am I supposed to know? It sounded real to me.
And here's a message to Man-Faye: YOU'RE NOT A CELEBRITY. STOP THINKING SO HIGHLY OF YOURSELF. YOU ARE AN UGLY, ANNOYING BASTARD WHO IS JUST MAKING ANIME FANS LOOK BAD. AX WAS RIGHT IN BANNING YOU AND I HOPE ALL FUTURE CONS PREVENT YOU FROM ACCESSING THEM. YOU HAVE RUINED A GREAT ANIME CHARACTER AND FOR THAT YOU WILL ALWAYS BE HATED. I HOPE YOU DIE OF GONNORHIA AND ROT IN HELL. I mean, God, is that shit disgusting or what? He mentioned he got picked on as a kid; probably because he pranced about in his mom's lingerie or something. Last edited by Starwind Amada on Tue Sep 13, 2005 5:10 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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| Zac ANN Executive Editor Posts: 4298 Location: Death Star Cocktail Lounge |
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No, the article about the fat cosplayers 'crusading to keep anime on the air' thing was a joke. Real cosplayers, joke text. |
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Haru to Ashura Posts: 617 Location: Termina |
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Hmm, death threats and unessessary flamming to a person who isn't going to bother reading this in the first place. Real mature. Thumbs up, Sherlock. |
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| Karala Posts: 43 |
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Well there are tons of anime fans that make it look like it's made for losers (hell, as far as I'm concerned all cosplayers do just that to the minds of people that don't watch anime), you should stop worry about the "anime image" and start worrying more about equality. Yes - he's not exactly Faye, but to be discriminated against him isn't right, it souldn't matter what he looks like. Instead of commenting on his looks, maybe you and half the other people here can stop being shallow and try seeing that he's actually trying to stand for people's rights. All of you make me disgusted far more than a man dressing as women. The only reason someone should be banned is if they are causing trouble at the con, and from what I read, he's done no such thing and there are lots of people wearing far more revealing costumes. Like he said, all costumes that are similar to his should be banned, if he's being banned for his costume alone. |
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Shiki MSHTS Posts: 738 Location: NoVA |
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| definately one of the best interviews I've read in a long time. I am pretty neutral on the whole cross playing issue, though I agree that skimpy outfits should either be allowed or not allowed, and not restricted on a gender basis.
Quite humorous and entertaining. My only complaint? That lap dance picture at the end is eye scarring. >_> |
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KiraYamato Posts: 12 |
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| I agree with Karala. It's a double-standard to allow women to dress in skimpy outfits, and then go around and ban someone's outfit at the drop of a hat just because some nobody complained. There should be more steps to it than just "one complaint and your outfit is banned". I know damn well if I went and complained about the appearance of a female Naruto cosplayer (a normal one, not some skimpy outfit or anything), they wouldn't do shit because there's nothing wrong when a woman crossplays. But when a man crossplays all of the sudden it's a big no-no even though there's tons of other women out there wearing the same outfit, if not worse.
All in all I'm pretty disgusted with AX and their policies on this subject. A three strikes rule would be more appropriate than what they're doing, which from the sound of it seems like they just made it up on the fly. First strike: someone complains and they go tell the person "Hey tone it down a bit", second complaint, essentially say the same thing except more serious as in "We're going to have to take your badge away if we get one more". Third: three strikes, you're out. Now if Man-Faye was parading around and asking for spankings, then that's his own fault. But if he's just walking around minding his own business then I don't see what the problem is. Reguardless of what he was doing, a three strikes rule would be better than bullshitting your way into kicking him out. |
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