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egoist
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:54 pm
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Rukiia wrote: |
alexcampos wrote: | Ugh.....Funimation should just GO AWAY!!! |
Maybe you should go away? |
Guys, you don't really get it. Justin Bieber should be the one going away.
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Paploo
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:56 pm
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alexcampos wrote: | Ugh.....Funimation should just GO AWAY!!!
Stop buying their DVDs and maybe they'll stop licensing everything out there. |
*just bought the super pretty xxxHolic SAVE set and Summer Wars w/artcards*
*preorders more dvd's*
*sends friends links to their youtube account*
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Spotlesseden
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:56 pm
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i feel sorry for that 1 person who is still on the hook. lol
I don't know why people have to use illegal route to watch OP when you get watch it legally and free.
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Rukiia
Joined: 30 Aug 2010
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Location: British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:56 pm
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egoist wrote: |
Rukiia wrote: |
alexcampos wrote: | Ugh.....Funimation should just GO AWAY!!! |
Maybe you should go away? |
Guys, you don't really get it. Justin Bieber should be the one going away. |
He kinda did in that CSI episode?
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asimpson2006
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:59 pm
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Spotlesseden wrote: | i feel sorry for that 1 person who is still on the hook. lol
I don't know why people have to use illegal route to watch OP when you get watch it legally and free. |
Some people can't because of region lockout like our dear friends in Europe or anything south of the US. Does OP streaming in Canada?
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Ryojen
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:01 pm
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Bravo, Funimation. You did the right thing.
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Paploo
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:01 pm
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asimpson2006 wrote: |
Spotlesseden wrote: | i feel sorry for that 1 person who is still on the hook. lol
I don't know why people have to use illegal route to watch OP when you get watch it legally and free. |
Some people can't because of region lockout like our dear friends in Europe or anything south of the US. Does OP streaming in Canada? |
It depends on Funimation's player- at the moment they're streaming mostly via Hulu for their on-site series, though I think their new player might change things around. Around the time of the leak though, I think they were mostly using their own player, which was accessible here.
Also- their YouTube account is accessible in Canada, so I guess it's just a matter of scheduling some OP on it at some point too.
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Sanosuke_Inara
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:02 pm
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Rukiia wrote: | He kinda did in that CSI episode? |
Huh? CSI episode? You wouldn't happen to be talking about THIS CSI episode, would you?
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Spotlesseden
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:02 pm
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asimpson2006 wrote: |
Spotlesseden wrote: | i feel sorry for that 1 person who is still on the hook. lol
I don't know why people have to use illegal route to watch OP when you get watch it legally and free. |
Some people can't because of region lockout like our dear friends in Europe or anything south of the US. Does OP streaming in Canada? |
i think they were going to sue the Americans. Not people from EU or South America
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Rukiia
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:03 pm
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asimpson2006 wrote: | Does OP streaming in Canada? |
Nope. On their website it is only available to USA consumers.
Sanosuke_Inara wrote: |
Rukiia wrote: | He kinda did in that CSI episode? |
Huh? CSI episode? You wouldn't happen to be talking about THIS CSI episode, would you? |
That's the one!
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Paploo
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:09 pm
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Rukiia wrote: |
asimpson2006 wrote: | Does OP streaming in Canada? |
Nope. On their website it is only available to USA consumers.
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Earlier on, they had their own player that played in Canada...... I hope the beta site they're launching goes back to that.
http://www.youtube.com/funimation One Piece seems to be one of the few series not available on their YouTube account, which is accessible here.
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tuxedocat
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:13 pm
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alexcampos wrote: | Ugh.....Funimation should just GO AWAY!!!
Stop buying their DVDs and maybe they'll stop licensing everything out there. |
Posts like this DO make a difference! It makes people like me just want to buy MORE!!!
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ConanSan
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:15 pm
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Well, untill Funimation do something about that region bock clocking they keep doing, my hands are tied.
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maylo
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:16 pm
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[quote="Daemonblue"]
maylo wrote: | It's funny though, there were only 1028 or so unique IP's the other 309 were duplicates. Who ever compiled the list, and even allowed it to be summited to the courts did a pretty terrible job. What is even more intriguing is that, defendant Doe 1 and Doe 2 are the same person, and the judge removed Does 2 - 1337. So did that also remove Doe 1?
Quote: | According to the judge's order, the actions of each defendant did not constitute "acting in concert" but rather acting individually, although identically. |
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Restatement (Second) of Torts § 876. Persons Acting In Concert
For harm resulting to a third person from the tortious conduct of another, one is subject toliability if he
(a) does a tortious act in concert with the other or pursuant to a common design with him, or
(b) knows that the other's conduct constitutes a breach of duty and gives substantial assistance or encouragement to the other so to conduct himself, or
(c) gives substantial assistance to the other in accomplishing a tortious result and his ownconduct, separately considered, constitutes a breach of duty to the third person. |
Which obviously bit torrent falls under all of those,
(a) because all the defendants had to use the same method of acquiring the file (bit torrent)
(b) "substantial assistance" would be equivalent to seeding, and "encouragement" would be the basis of bit torrent itself; sharing.
(c) Obviously seeding would be "substantial assistance"
Does anyone have copies of the court documents? Already have the complaint, cover, and exhibit. |
Quote: | a) they would have to actively be helping each and every other person knowingly, with bittorrent it's fairly passive, just because two people just so happened to shoot the same guy on two different days, doesn't mean they worked in concert, for example. |
First your gun comment does not even close relate to being an accurate example because they did not give each other assistance in the same crime, both shooters and shootings were different. See (b)
Quote: | b)not everyone can say they know the other person is doing something illegal that they're connected to, just look at how some studios download their licensed works which isn't a breach of duty, and just being connected to the torrent doesn't encourage others to be on it |
Pretty self explanatory. "cooperate in a particular line of conduct or to accomplish a particular result. The agreement need not be expressed in words and may be implied and understood to exist from the conduct itself."
Quote: | c)not everyone using bittorrent uploads equally, so not everyone would be giving others "substantial" assistance. |
"substantial assistance" need not necessarily be a large amount even sending 1MB of data, because by sending that 1MB of data you contribute to someone else getting the whole file, whom then shares that file, etc etc otherwise no one would ever get the file because the seeder wouldn't share, these are bit torrent basics.
Quote: | Basically, the connection between two people using bittorrent for the same torrent is very tennuous at best. It would be like catching two different shoplifters in the same store at seperate times of day, just because they happened to do the same crime doesn't mean they acted together, |
Also your shoplifting example is also poor, well not even poor it doesn't fall under the same law, because they did not act together.
Do you even understand the concept of "Acting in concert" this is twice you brought up an example not relating.
Quote: | and to joinder all of those people together they would have to prove that every single other person knowingly assisted every other person at the same time. That is one reason why courts over the United States have refused to let these cases go through. |
Even if you are the first one to finish the download and then stop it, you still contributed to another who that person then shares to another, eventually they all are connected, how else do you think bit torrent works, other wise just the seeder would be to blaim
Quote: | Comment on Clause (a)
:a. Parties are acting in concert when they act in accordance with an agreement to cooperate in a particular line of conduct or to accomplish a particular result. The agreement need not be expressed in words and may be implied and understood to exist from the conduct itself. Whenever two or more persons commit tortious acts in concert, each becomes subject to liabilityfor the acts of the others, as well as for his own acts. The theory of the early common law was
that there was a mutual agency of each to act for the others, which made all liable for the tortiousacts of any one. |
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Rukiia
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:22 pm
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Paploo wrote: | Earlier on, they had their own player that played in Canada...... I hope the beta site they're launching goes back to that. |
That would be nice considering I can't watch Hulu and Crunchyroll doesn't offer the show. I would like to watch the series legally. I am making due so far with the DVD's I purchased, but at the rate I'm going they won't last. ><
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