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voodoomage
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If they have dual language uncensored DVDs for One-Piece , I will buy them no doubt. I will still d/l the fansubs just because It will take years for them to catch up. Thats what's great about fansubs, it literally only take weeks to get compared to years.
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Lady Multi
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That's what I did with Inuyasha (kept downloading higher episodes) when they were just barely into the second season... I wasn't able to wait four years for them to reach the point where I had watched... I'm buying the boxsets of Inuyasha now, but Viz is somewhat slow at releasing the boxsets (they're aren't as slow as Geneon) and I know that it is possible to release series faster than they do (ADV does it fairly quickly). Heck, if a series isn't fansubed and I like it, I'll watch the raws from the point I saw, I download raws (this is what I did with Full Metal Alchemist). |
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Akyho
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sigh i who knew me asking that damned question would bring so much hell to these boards and to a frequint board of mine that i have now been exiled of sorts for not even my veiws.
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Keonyn
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Was a legitimate question, you generally can't be held accountable for the reactions of others unless you went into it with the sole intent of stirring the hornets nest. It's a vicious topic, always has been and looks to be for quite some time to come, but a legitimate one none the less.
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Akyho
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thing is my question was not aswered at all realy i just sparked a fire in the wrong direction and i have no arguments for or against anything here.
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Godaistudios
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I guess you should have rephrased the question? Don't worry about it too much - sometimes the boat needs to be rocked a little anyway. Intelligent discussion is helpful. |
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Akyho
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pfft wish you could have told that to the forum that blamed me for acting with intent to cause all this with wanting to cause diversity and just being a evil person with the thinking boats on calm waters shouldnt be rocked for any reason.
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Tempest
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I can't speak for the other forum, but we don't ban people for their opinions. No matter how wrong or stupid an opinion is, you have a right to express it, as long as it isn't malicious. We do however ban people for not using capitals, commas, paragraph breaks and the like (See Teh Rules). -t |
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Akyho
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well ban me now because i am dyslexic its taken me 14 years to get to this level of grammer and sentence structer and even then my spelling is poor and my grammer is poor.
they didn't ban me i left but it was because they were giveing me a hard time over this when i didn't meant anything and none of it were my veiws and completely didn't understand anything of what i was saying they were just takeing the bad of whatever i said saying i was attacking people when i wasnt. |
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Tempest
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That's teh intArweb for you 
People tend to be quick to assume and hard to reason with. -t |
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Akyho
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the more i tried to plead my innocence the more i offended and the more i dug a whole fo my self. you know how many people say just walk away and they even said that how can you walk away if your fighting for you innocence and then later the same person started suggesting i should toughen up stand my ground and this is the head admin and owner of the forum telling me this whith such contradicting thinking i figured i was not going to get anywear and so i left. i was up for moderator reveiw on the forum befor i was alienated and i didn't aplly or know i was up for mod reveiw untill half way through the argument the admin said not to damage my chances.
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Zalis116
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You're asking if it kills the story or damages the character? No, but in both versions, it creates a "wtf?" moment that doesn't need to be there, which may affect people's opinions of the show overall, to the effect of: "Okay, why did they put this dumb-ass character who doesn't want to be called "Aunt" in the show? What's with her?" Am I spoiled just because I put a little work into understanding what goes on in anime at the language/cultural level? Maybe a little, but I don't believe so. Am I elitist? I disagree with that as well: I don't want to sit on any throne and say "Ha ha ha, I understand anime better than anyone, and you suckers don't get it." Rather, I want everyone to get as much from their viewing experience (and their valuble $$$ / computer downloading resources  ) as possible.
Sure, there's going to be obscure cultural things that even segments of the Japanese population won't understand, and I don't expect companies/fansubs to explain absolutely everything. For that, I am thankful for dub/sub localizations... heck, the Please Teacher dub even improved on some of the more annoying parts of the Japanese track, and the first volume of Ghost Stories is a laugh riot. But, when things are approaching incomprehensibility (in the eyes of someone who knows only average fanboy/girl Japanese), as with the SaiKano part I cited earlier, that's when there's a problem. Also, I think there's some confusion on the word "ethnocentric," which means, "characterized or based on the attitude that one's own group is superior." One could make a good argument that ethnocentric attitudes exist in Japanese culture as a whole (and in many others as well), but it's also the type of racist belief associated with Hitler and the Nazis. However, when anime shows things that are culturally particular to Japan (temple visits, taking off shoes indoors, Valentine's chocolates, festivals etc.) is not being ethnocentric, as it doesn't proclaim, "Japan pwns everyone else! Bow down before us, Western dogs!" Eclectic, obscure, or idiosyncratic perhaps, but not ethnocentric. |
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Mohawk52
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Lady Multi
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And you persist to call downloading fansubs theft? Read laws and you find its just copyright infringment, in all truth. ...Copyright infringment is copying, altering, or using someone else's work (images, audio, text, and/or video) without permission. ...Theft is stealing with no intent to purchase. This normally intends to be a secret. (Fansubs are right out in the open). ...It's not really piracy (fansubs) either. Piracy is taking with intent to sell for profit. (This can be said about all those people on Ebay and Amazon who sell these "false" $30 "import boxsets". These things generally suc because they are typically made by people who don't give a rats arse about the series...only about they money they make making multiple copys of unofficial dvds.) ^ That's the thing that gets me...that THAT continues and that people do promote it. Sure, I download fansubs, but I buy the series afterwards (when/if it becomes locally and legally availible)... Please take some type of business law before jumping to conclusion about what is "theft." Law has a bunch of complicated definitions and though I do not claim to know them all, I DO know what is classified as Copyright Infringment. |
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Kazuki-san
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It's copyright infringment AND theft, by law and by definition. Go back and read what I wrote about it. |
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