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Animehermit
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I remember being kind of frustrated with KH2, because it felt like I wasn't getting the full story. Then again I beat it once in like 2006 so I could be wrong. |
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Juno016
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Well, even if you get a summary of some kind in the game, the fact that the characters wake up out of some pod thing has got to make you double-take and think, "What the heck did I miss!?" At least you'll get it when you play it in this HD collection. Oh, and another note: The Final Mix stuff is... quite awesome. I found it harder to collect all the materials for synching, but that was thanks to a variety of new, quirky (and I mean quirky) enemies that require you fulfill requirements of some kind to get their items. So you may not even be able to complete even the first set of sync items until much later in the game. And then there's the new boss, "Unknown." He's... just awesome. Took me a while to beat him. For those who don't know, Final Mix isn't THAT much different than our international version, aside from a few adjustments and new enemies/items, alongside the new boss--the original Japanese version of KH1 had less content than our international version did, and Final Mix included all that and the new enemies and stuff. So it was a bigger deal to the Japanese fans and well-worth buying the game again for many--even discounting those who got it for the English voices. Nonetheless, the additions change the experience enough that those who haven't played the first game in forever should be happy. Nostalgia AND new content. =P |
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YamadaKun
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@Juno016 Japanese people don't care about English voices. They got the FM versions for the extra content alone. Japanese people, if I'm being nice have absolute apathy for our VAs, since unlike us, they can't try to decipher whether or not so, so and so was well acted or not, not to mention, they just do not care. Why WOULD they care? They have their own VAs to entertain them. The only dubs that get even the slightest bit of care from JP fans are the Ghibli movies.
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Rahxephon91
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But I've played Vanquish and RE4 because of the gameplay. I could care less about the story. Likewise I've played Bioshock Infinite and The Last of US mostly because the story pushed me through. And I even played The Walking Dead just because of the story, that's why most people even play adventure games. And Story and characters were probably the selling point for many for Last and Bioshock. Likewise, Tales of Graces has great gameplay, but the level design and story suck and I never finished it. Some people played Persona for the story and characters and turned the game down to easy. I played Ni No Kuni because the graphics were great, so did my friend. Many girl friends I have play FF for the story and characters and the games are easy enough that it's fine. There's no one reason all people play video games. |
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Juno016
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Japanese people don't USUALLY care about English VA's, but when we're talking about Disney... Yes, Disney voice actors (or rather, mainstream actors in general) are popular in Japan. Most Japanese Disney Blu-Rays I own include the karaoke features for the English songs, but not the Japanese ones. When I went to Disneyland in Japan, I heard far more English-language music from Disney than Japanese-language music. When I went to karaoke with my friends and we put on Disney songs, our Japanese friends joined in to the English ones (though they did know the Japanese versions, too). When I saw Lion King on television in Japan, it was the English voice dub with subtitles. If KH wasn't filled with so much Disney, the Japanese fans wouldn't have cared for the English version. I think this was mostly a decision made by Disney Japan, rather than Square Enix, but it helped sales a bit. Though, yes, the sales for Final Mix depended heavily on the new content and just adding the English voices would not have sold the games by itself, but there were a lot of people who bought Final Mix because it was in English and they were English Disney fans. |
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Jave
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Sites were saying FFXIII-2 had a worse ending than ME3 and one of the worst endings in a game ever because it ended on a cliffhanger  A second game in a trilogy ends on a cliffhanger, oh noes. Empire Strikes Back must be a really crappy movie as well since it ends pretty cliffhangery too. People today are just weird.
Actually Bioware just cuts it out of the main game then sells you it as 10 dollar DLC like the Shadow Broker and Liara stuff 
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Looneygamemaster
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That Batman show has much better written stories than most stuff from Japan y'know. Just saying.
Not sure if I'll pick this game up. |
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GarnetStyle
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Yeah who could forget that timeless classic where Batman caught the Joker and then he escaped from jail next week and caught him again. Simply breathtaking storytelling. 
Most American media is designed to be as episodic and plotless as possible. Networks are more worried about catching the new viewer who tunes in halfway through season 5 than actually focusing on storytelling. Even most stuff with some kind of plot tend to tell them in a very episodic and laid back nature. Not surprised if some gamers would treat games the same way. |
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Looneygamemaster
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You seem to automatically equate "episodic" with "bad." Batman TAS is episodic and comic-booky, yes, but at its best, I have yet to see any animated TV show match it.
Cowboy Bebop is episodic too, and are you gonna tell me that's bad? It's all about how you execute it. 
To tie it into Kingdom Hearts, I can certainly understand the viewpoint of those who have been turned off by the series getting too convoluted. I don't agree with them, but I can understand it. |
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YamadaKun
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A lot of people LOVE to tell me that I'm Tenjin. Maybe I am, maybe I'm not, but one thing's for sure. You're BonusStage in an alt. BonusStage has like 2 alts on this forum. Also, Joker's like in, what, 11 episodes ot of 80+? He only appears 1/7th of the time. And Batman TAS has to be like that. If they even attempted to adapt the comics, the comics wouldn't be adapted! They made Naruto look like MLP in comparison, the comics would have STILL been running for 50+ years, so superhero shows cannot be anything other than what they are, due to censorship and how the comics are done. Although Superman TAS has a bloody fight scene between Darkseid and Supes and it links to how Darkseid killed Dan Turpin, so these show CAN have story telling. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0pcChyV6o4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km5DgeLDkNIhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km5DgeLDkNI @Juno016 Yeah right. Most Japanese identify Donald Duck with Koichi Yamadera, not Tony Anselmo. If you want to go back further, older Japanese identify Donald with Kei Tomiyama. Same with Mickey Mouse. They are used to the deeper Takashi Aoyagi as Mickey. No amount of Wayne Allwine/Bret Iwan or Tony Anselmo can ever replace the eternal Koichi Yamadera and if you want to be technical, in Kingdom Hearts Anselmo and Allwine/Iwan are dubbing OVER Yamadera and Aoyagi, so in KH the JP VAs are the original, which solidifies it even more. And even if VAing DID matter, it's not like the Disney characters are that important. Most of the characters are voiced by either English anime VAs or celebrities, who don't do Disney work. |
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Juno016
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"Yeah right"...? I'm not lying about it. I gave specific examples. It's not to say that the Japanese truly find the English VA's better or "more memorable." They're simply popular. It's kinda like how many older Japanese refuse to watch Japanese dubs of hollywood movies. There's a following for it, and for Disney, the following isn't exactly that niche. As for who's dubbing over who, of course the Japanese fans aren't familiar with or interested in the Square-original characters (and look it up--most Kingdom Hearts' original characters' English voices come from Disney, not anime... for once in a Japanese-made game). It's all about Disney. Even if the Disney characters aren't as important in the grand scheme of things. I mean, how do YOU explain why they decided to use the English voices instead of the Japanese voices for all the Final Mix games? |
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phia_one
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I'm really looking forward to this since it's been a few years since I've played the main games and I haven't played the side games yet.
I also find the logic of playing video games for the gameplay alone to be nonsense. Games have become another way to experience a story. I'd never waste time on a game that didn't have a good story or at least interesting characters. Also:
YamadaKun, BtAS was still dark and the most of the villains (Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, and Mad Hatter just to name a few) actually got an upgrade from the comics because up to that point they were gimmick villains. So, at the time, the series was an improvement on the comics. |
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Animehermit
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Except Shadow Broker came out more than 6 months after ME2 came out. And was developed by a separate studio entirely. |
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lostrune
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Day 1 DLC like "From Ashes" is an entirely different matter to be fair 
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